Trainman Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Leaving to go camping four days ago I was hooking up the trailer to the tow vehicle and discovered the tongue jack was not working and I first thought it was the jack itself, well it didn't take long to see it was the batteries were dead as well as all other 12v functions on the trailer. When I plugged the power 30amp cord back in to the trailer all works as it should and even worked on the 12v trailer cord just fine. I did check the batteries with a meter and they did read 4.6 volts at the battery, but with the power cord plugged in they did read 12.6. I'm now thinking that my charge controller is not charging the batteries, plus I did not hear the charge unit click on and off as I think it's supposed to do to keep the batteries charged, note my trailer is plugged in all the time when not in use. My trailer has the standard batteries that Oliver puts in them, but I don't think both batteries would die at the same time, plus just from past experience I don't think the charger is turning on and charging, I guess my question is, where should I start looking first, second, third, etc. Any ideas on this would be appreciated where to start looking. trainman 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhncb Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Replace the batteries. One bad one will drag down the other. Since you’re reading 12.6 V when plugged into shore power, the converter is outputting and likely okay. Also, it doesn’t click when turning on or off. Maybe you’re thinking about the transfer switch? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted May 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 5, 2022 Did you check the breaker on the charger under the dinette seat? I agree that it should be working if you got 12.6V when plugged in. I’d replace the batteries, too. MIke 2 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
routlaw Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 FWIW, typically when plugged in we get a reading higher than 12.6 volts. 4 Legacy Elite II #70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank C Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 If you’re reading only 4.6 volts at the battery as no load voltage when not connected to shore power, then at least one of the the batteries is probably shot. You didn’t mention if you have 12volt lead acid or the 6volt AGM, but either way a voltage reading of only 4.6 volts is essentially a dead battery, way less than 10% charge level. And frequently letting the batteries drop to less than 50% charge level will shorten their useful life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 Thanks for the info, I will remove or unhook the batteries today and charge each on separately on my charger. This is just to see if they even charge and which one is dead, but I will replace both batteries even if one still checks good. The batteries are the stock batteries that Oliver puts in the trailer when new, I did not pay for any upgrades for batteries. I will say here that we don't use battery power very much, probably only when on the road for fresh water for bathroom use, or when hooking up the trailer and power for the tongue jack. Thanks for the post, I will start with the batteries and go from there, any other ideas will be welcomed, thanks. trainman 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted May 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 5, 2022 Trainman, I think you're wise to also troubleshoot the pd charger/converter. If you have the manual, there's a troubleshooting guide in it. If not, you can download it on the progressive dynamics site. PD will answer any questions you have if you call their technical support line. We had a problem with ours not charging last year. Turned out to be low power from the 110 connection. The charger won't charge below a certain level (I 104 or 105 volts, though pd tech told us it might probably still charge down to 102 or so.) You might just start by checking what voltage you're actually getting from your 30 amp plug, so you can rule that out. Another time, I think Paul found a loose connection somewhere, but that's so long ago, I don't remember. We are on our second pd charger/converter. First died after about 10 years. 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
routlaw Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 If you have left your batteries plugged in constantly via the charger converter most likely you have boiled those batteries dry, assuming they are lead acid. If so they surely are DOA. 3 Legacy Elite II #70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 Another question, why do I need two batteries when we really don't ever use the battery power. We don't Boondock and like I said before, only battery use might be using the tongue jack, or water pump when traveling on the road. We traveled with our Casita with only one battery and never had a battery problem over the years we owned it, so I see one good battery as all we probably need, plus you are plugged into the vehicle power plug which takes care of what little power you would need, but I do want the battery system in operation, it could disrupt the system in general without a battery in the system. This is not because of two battery expense, it just make good sense to me when we really didn't get much use of the two battery system. I know the hotel option as always there for a nights stay if things become unbearable. trainman 1 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted May 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 5, 2022 That's an interesting thought @Trainman, as we're much more likely to see discussions here on increasing available amp hours. Since you always camp with hookups, I don't know why you couldn't manage with one 12v battery. (I wouldn't run the fridge on dc while traveling, though, and maybe lift the jacks while you're still plugged on to the campsite.) One of my best friends owns a Casita, and camps with us without power, with one battery. She just has to plug in to the generator every 2 or 3 days, or use her portable solar panel to charge up on sunny days. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 As some of you said upon removing the batteries they were totally dry in the cells. I did fill them with distilled water, but so far they have not taken a charge and are totally dead. This was probably my fault as I did not check them as I was thinking they were like automobile batteries in todays vehicle and were a sealed battery and you couldn't add fluid to them, I was wrong on that. So I will be buying new batteries this week. Thanks to all who gave input on this matter, trainman 1 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 5/5/2022 at 5:09 PM, Trainman said: So I will be buying new batteries this week. With a dead battery, or a Master Battery Switch "OFF", we should not move our trailers. I believe that all the OTT trailers have the Dexter Emergency Brake magnets connected to the OTT battery bank. GJ TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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