Frank C Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, mossemi said: Since I only have my Oliver to compare to, I have a couple of questions to ask to the forum group. The repair pictures show what has been identified as liquid tape. Does anyone else have liquid tape on their frame ground stud or connections? My second question concerns the 4/0 x 5/16” lug attached to the ground stud. Does anyone also have a 4/0 ground cable connected to the frame ground? Are these now common methods on units coming from the factory? Mossey Mine has the black coating on the chassis ground. 2019 Hull 461. Haven’t had any electrical/ground issues at all. But not sure why Oliver feels that coating is needed on the chassis ground stud since the entire ground bus bar right next to it is exposed. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2021 LE2 , Hull 806 On mine, the top of the ground stud is also covered with the black soft sealant. I take this to indicate to not add any other grounds to this primary ground point. None of the other ground points have it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 SteveCr, you can definitely add additional grounds there, you just have to be sure to remove all the black stuff down to bare smooth metal. FYI you should not have more than 4 per stud, if you need more, add another stud with a big jumper cable to it, or else a bus bar. Do not be like this boat: Yikes. John Davies Spokane WA 2 3 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katjo Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 hours ago, BackofBeyond said: Glad you are back in business. Those ground connections can wreak havoc sometimes. RB Thank you😃 1 2021 Dodge Ram 1500 2021 Oliver Elite ll Hull #732 Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieman Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, mossemi said: Does anyone else have liquid tape on their frame ground stud or connections? My second question concerns the 4/0 x 5/16” lug attached to the ground stud. Does anyone also have a 4/0 ground cable connected to the frame ground? Are these now common methods on units coming from the factory? Looks like I have some black stuff sprayed on the ground stud. Another easy task on my list, check this out and improve this ground connection as needed. Edited June 20, 2022 by Mike D. Typo 3 “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted June 20, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, Mike D. said: The yellow 4/0 ground wire is attached. Are you referring to the yellow wire connected to the right end of the ground Buss bar? That cable does not look large enough to be a 4/0 cable which has an O.D. of 13/16". One of Katjo’s pictures showed a 4/0 x 5/16" lug connected to the frame ground, which prompted my question. Mossey 1 Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieman Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 hours ago, mossemi said: That cable does not look large enough to be a 4/0 cable which has an O.D. of 13/16". Apologies, I had a senior moment while typing, I meant 4AWG. Not sure about that wire size, just guessing from my pic. I edited my post. “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted June 20, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 20, 2022 @Mike D. thanks for the clarification. Maybe Katjo will comment on his picture and let us know if the 4/0 lug in his picture was original or part of the recent repair and what the other end is connected to. Mossey Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katjo Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, mossemi said: @Mike D. thanks for the clarification. Maybe Katjo will comment on his picture and let us know if the 4/0 lug in his picture was original or part of the recent repair and what the other end is connected to. Mossey The lug (screw) was replaced with the exact same size as the originally used from factory. 2021 Dodge Ram 1500 2021 Oliver Elite ll Hull #732 Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jps190 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 10:35 AM, mossemi said: @Mike D. thanks for the clarification. Maybe Katjo will comment on his picture and let us know if the 4/0 lug in his picture was original or part of the recent repair and what the other end is connected to. Mossey Hey Mike, That 4/0 cable on my 2021 goes direct to the negative battery terminal. (at least it used to before I rearranged all the wiring 😁) John John and Kim 2021 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6L Duramax 11350 GVWR 3048lb Payload 2021 Oliver Elite II. Hull #887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I don’t have an inverter so perhaps that’s why I have 4AWG. “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted June 23, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Jps190 said: Hey Mike, That 4/0 cable on my 2021 goes direct to the negative battery terminal. (at least it used to before I rearranged all the wiring 😁) John Hey John how’s it going? Have y’all been camping since the rally or are you hiding in the air conditioning like I am? I’ll jump back in and ask for more information. I still haven’t heard back from Katjo concerning my 4/0 cable lug question, so I’ll ask you if you are saying that you originally had a 4/0 cable connected to the frame ground stud and running straight to the battery negative? If so, that may be a wiring change to accommodate the Xantrex Freedom XC Pro series of charger/inverters. I know you have done extensive work to your solar setup and although I haven’t seen the work you have completed, your comment leads me to believe that you have installed a battery shunt. Maybe I should approach this from a different direction and ask if you have a Xantrex Freedom XC Pro and if so, what is the difference between your original installation and the drawing below? Mossey 2 Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jps190 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Hey Mike, you are correct. I have the 3000 wax XC Pro. I have noted the picture below. The 4/0 cable used to come from the battery negative to the chassis ground. When I installed the Lynx I removed all the wire from the battery compartment except for the 2 4/0 cables that come from the batteries to the lynx. Luckily when I removed the 4/0 cable from the battery negative that went to the chassis it was just long enough to be able to be installed (albeit awkwardly) to the negative bus on the lynx which saved me from making another 4/0 cable. The solar controllers below are a 100/50 for the portable solar and a 100/30 for the rooftop array. There is a small positive busbar mounted vertically on the lower right that I used for jacks ect. John John and Kim 2021 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6L Duramax 11350 GVWR 3048lb Payload 2021 Oliver Elite II. Hull #887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted June 24, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2022 Thanks John! I am beginning to understand the way Oliver is handling the DC side of the Xantrex. And I might be able to help someone else. Mossey Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Jps190 said: I like your installation, but I have a suggestion to clean up the grey communication cable. I got a humongous one like yours when I bought the Smart Bus, but I only needed about five feet. I found this cable, and tossed that huge one in the recycle bin. It will make your installation look a whole lot neater. Some of us care about stuff like that😬 It’s probably available from a number of vendors, this is the one I found: https://www.ecodirect.com/Victron-Energy-VE-Direct-Cable-1-8m-5-9-p/victron-energy-ass030530218.htm You could loop the excess cable and hide it underneath your Victron display board, so none of it would show. John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted June 24, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2022 At least John should get "partial credit" for a really nice bundle that is zip-tied.😃 1 1 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jps190 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Yeah yeah, I know it is too long and I knew it would be pointed out when I posted it.😁 I have blanks so I can just cut the cable to length and re-crimp it but for some reason I haven't gotten back to do it yet. 🤷♂️. Now I am motivated!!! John 2 1 John and Kim 2021 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6L Duramax 11350 GVWR 3048lb Payload 2021 Oliver Elite II. Hull #887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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