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...and this time I think the problem initiator would be me! After our last fall trip I thought I drained the water from the freshwater tank but I didn't.  You can probably figure out where this is going. In prep for our upcoming trip to southern Utah I turned on the water pump and saw that the pump would not stop and no water would come out of the faucets. I looked at the pump/accumulator plumbing and saw that the filter housing (on the suction side of the pump) was cracked and had "dribbled" a small amount of water. At this point I checked the tank monitor gauge and saw that the tank was nearly full of freshwater (and if I could have kicked myself in the backside I would have). We live at near sea level in Western Washington and it seldom gets cold but this winter we had a good cold snap and I'm pretty sure that's what cracked my filter. I purchased a new filter but just replaced the stainless filter element not the entire filter body. I was so sure that this would solve my problem that I drained all water from the tank using the bottom, gravity drain and refilled the tank with water and some bleach to disinfect the tank. I oriented all the valves in their correct position and turned on the pump. As they say, No Joy, and the pump would not turn off and there was no water at the faucets. I checked the pump area and all the valves and fittings that I could see....there were no apparent water leaks. The only thing I can think of is I have an air leak (maybe because something cracked during the freeze). I also assume these pumps do not need priming after draining. Any ideas? Like most of these problems I thing its relatively simple and may also be operator error....again.    

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You might try hooking up a hose to the city water and test for leaks that way. Maybe be prepared to turn off the water quickly. If you don't see leaks, then run the water from a faucet and see if it gets rid of any air pockets? Sorry I am not coming up with any other ideas at the moment.

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I assume that you are NOT seeing any water coming out of the "scupper" holes in the bottom of the Ollie?

More than likely - you have a small air leak upstream of the water pump.  A few blue shop towels will come in handy in wiping around all of the pipe that you can get your hand on.  Pay particular attention to the areas near all fittings.

Good luck!

Bill

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Well, did as Ray suggested and water was flowing out of plastic shark-bite like fitting in back of Truma Aquago Instant water heater. Hopefully it's just the plastic fitting and not the Temperature Stabilizer Tank. Now to figure out how to remove unit so I can access the fitting. Hoping this isn't a cascade of problems including air leaks upstream as topgun2 mentioned. The Truma manual does not describe removal of the entire heater so I'll call Oliver tomorrow. In the interim, has anyone remove the Truma unit? 

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It happens. I'm just wondering why you have damage by the water heater. If the pipes were winterized that area shouldn't have frozen, even with water in the fresh water tank.

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13 hours ago, Toby said:

water was flowing out of plastic shark-bite like fitting in back of Truma Aquago Instant water heater. Hopefully it's just the plastic fitting and not the Temperature Stabilizer Tank. Now to figure out how to remove unit so I can access the fitting.

Toby - 

Perhaps the "issue" is as simple as a problem with the Shark Bite fitting.  There are a number of ways to remove these fittings with THIS being one of the simplest and cheapest.

Good luck!

Bill 

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10 hours ago, Steph and Dud B said:

I'm just wondering why you have damage by the water heater.

It is possible that the "issue" has nothing to (or little to do) with water and the possibility it froze.

These Shark Bite fittings are great for emergency repairs but they have been known to "loosen" due to the vibration caused by an RV simply going down the road.  Also, these fittings are subject to improper installation which can cause "issues" as time goes by.  On the few occasions that I've had to use Shark Bites I have always made what I believe to be a more permanent repair once I got home.

Bill

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1 hour ago, Toby said:

Oliver installs these for "keeps". 

To my knowledge - 

Oliver does not use Shark Bite fittings.

So, is it the fitting or the Shark Bite that has the leak?

Also, please use the "signature" area to fill out details on both your Ollie and Tow Vehicle so that it is easier for members to respond to future questions.  Thanks!

Bill

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