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There are many interesting historic military installations around the country. It might be interesting to have a thread where folks could post pictures and information about their visits to these places of US history. Many active military installations also have nice museums and historic buildings.1 point
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Mystery of the Hull Number and the Vin Number... I think the Hull Number of the Washington trailer is between 220 and 229, probably 221. The Wikipedia page on VIN numbers says that there are 17 digits. I have my VIN number shown below, with two positions hidden with an “x”. Positions 1-3 and 12-14 together are the manufacturer identifier, with positions 1-2 also limited by country. Position 1 must be a "1" for vehicles built in the US. For a small manufacturer like Oliver, position 3 must be a "9." Digits 4-8 are a Vehicle Identifier. Digit 9 is a Check Digit. Digit 10 is Model Year. Digit 11 is an Assembly Plant code. Digits 15-17 are a Sequential Number, our Hull numbers. When I take the VIN number of the Washington trailer, it clearly does not align. As Randy and Overland noted, Hull 522 can not be correct. However if I slide the VIN number over 1 position, it fits pretty well. Digits 4-8 are a vehicle identifier. I bet BC232 represents an Elite II, maybe twin bed. Digit 10 is the model year. Mine is G=2016, which is correct according to Wikipedia, and the Washington trailer is H=2017. If I remove the “1” at the beginning of the Washington trailer VIN and move it to the end, I get Hull 221. I looked thru the Forum Members, and I found five Hull numbers between 220 and 229, none being Hull 221. Four of these Forum Members list a location far from Washington, and the fifth does not list a location. In searching thru the list of Forum Users, I found a VIN number from a 2015 Oliver, and it has F, which is correct. It has BC232 as vehicle identifier, and it is an Elite II twin bed. BTW, position 2, part of the World Manufacturer Identifier, is different for all three trailers.1 point
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We thought the same thing about the sample. We also went with the black/grey theme as you did with the graphics/awning/countertop, but we chose our own fabric from Sunbrella. They have discontinued the Canyon Aspen. We had wanted that. They do have a replacement for it. Not sure what they are calling it. I call it the "new grey floor". Anita sent me the attached pic. She said they didn't have hard samples available yet but we took a leap of faith and went with it. Can't wait to see the final result (October). -Angela1 point
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We thought that we would order the Seagrass but changed our mind after getting the samples via snail mail. We didn't like the texture--kinda gummy and thick, as I remember. We ended up ordering Canyon Aspen flooring and are happy with it. We decided to go with a black and grey theme overall: black fiber granite (Dakota) and Tuxedo Grey cushion fabric, along with gray (American spelling) awning and black and gray graphics on the exterior. We are happy with how the Canyon Aspen blended in with this theme. However, I just looked on the Oliver site and did not see Canyon Aspen as a choice. perhaps it has been discontinued.1 point
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You'll notice the other thread, about the unit in Washington for sale, keep checking that link for when they finally post the photos, they had listed the specifications, before removing the post, the flooring was listed as being the seagrass. Sorry, guess this would be easier... http://www.royrobinsonrv.com/rv-used-cars/detail/Used-2017-Oliver-Legacy-TRAVEL-TRAILER/766/1129BC2323HH305221 point
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Hi ShallowGal, The flooring is one of those options that can probably be changed within the first month, First step is the construction of the aluminum frame, then the fiberglass work begins. I'm not sure exactly when the flooring is installed, but probably not too long before final assembly. We took delivery of our Elite II right after the 4th of July, and we're really happy with our decision. Along with the coming price increase, I heard a rumor that some of the low volume modifications some of us have requested are being discontinued like the elevated twin beds. I think they're trying to streamline production by providing a more standardized product. I certainly can't fault them on that, but glad we have our dream machine sitting in the driveway. Have a heart to heart discussion with your sales rep and ask about option change deadline dates. Beverly and I placed our initial order on a Monday, attended the Oliver sponsored rally the following weekend, then went back to the sales office the following Monday and added almost $7000 worth of options. We should have left town sooner. :) Brad - Santa Fe, NM1 point
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Jason, good info. John's comments bring up the difference between campers and travelers. We are more on the "traveler" side, going somewhere to see the sites and visit interesting landmarks, parks and historic places. We prefer hook ups, but are not limited to only FHU campgrounds. We spent time out in the desert at Quartzsite and at Joshua Tree NP boondocking as well as other places that were not developed. Our trailers adapt well to all conditions! We are going to visit as many National Parks as possible with or without hook ups. With regards to Texas, the state has a nice network of State Parks, from the lush Caddo Lake SP on the LA border to beach camping at Mustang Island SP near Corpus Christi on the gulf to the second largest US canyon at Palo Duro SP near Amarillo to the high desert at Davis Mountains SP in west Texas and lots of other interesting places in between. Big Bend NP is a great visit as is Guadalupe Mountains NP. We've also stayed at nice COE parks around the state for next to nothing with our senior pass. The bigness of the state allows for great geographic diversity. Mike1 point
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A big part of my fascination with the Midwest is probably my upbringing on the Minnesota farm. Seeing and hearing the corn grow, eating tomatoes and peas fresh from the plants in the huge garden.Riding the tractor with Dad, tending chickens with Mom. The amazing smell of new cut hay. Riding my pony, and the odd calf... Fording the usually shallow creek between us and nearest neighbors, chasing butterflies, finding tiger lilies and lady slippers in the woods.. The barn dad built from lumber he cut and milled himself still stands. He always told me I helped, but all I did was paint very low boards, and pull nails for him... I was six.but I sure loved being there with Dad. Life on the farm was pretty simple, but rich. We depended on each other, our family, and our neighbors. None of us had a lot, but we all had about the same...as my childhood friend Rose says, we had no idea others had more, so no big deal Those farm years, before we moved to "town", gave me a huge appreciation for life, green, and simple. I'd love to go back to those days. Easy, no. My parents worked unbelievably hard. Satisfying, certainly. And that big prairie sky... I remember laying under the oak in the pasture, watching the clouds. Imagining the rest of the world on the cloud figures. Since then, I've been lucky enough to see a lot of the world. But, you know, those cornfields are pretty darn amazing, too. Sherry1 point
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Malcolm and Ursula, Agree, we really enjoying camping with our Ollie, too. The folks at Oliver been great to work with. We showed the Ollie several times during the last camping trip and probably over 100 times at campgrounds since buying it used last year!1 point
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