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I was in charge of the National Forest, which borders Glacier on the west side - the Flathead National Forest. I am very familiar with Glacier. It is difficult to find space, and often they are small and quite close. An alternative is to camp in National Forest campgrounds outside the park, and make day trips if you cannot find something inside the park. You can bushwhack up the North Fork of the Flathead River, and go in thru the Polebridge entry. There are also National Forest camp grounds. Across Highway 2 in Hungry Horse, is the Hungry Horse Reservoir.. Check out places there. For real adventure, Drive up the East side of the Reservior to Spotted Bear Campground. Very remote feeling, but you are long a few miles down from the ranger station. The South Fork of the Flathead River is knock-down-dead beautiful. Go to youTube and search Flathead National Forest. There is a short video with amazing. landscape, an the fly over of the trail and river are in it. The scene of the fly fishing off the big rock in the river is just up from the Camp Ground. If you need to, you can call me for more details. I am a retired Forest Service Supervisor. We are considering a Oliver to take to Montana each summer.

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Rivian looks promising. What they and anyone who isn't Telsa lacks is a reliable distributed charging network. That and the R1T has a 4.5 foot bed which is pretty limiting vs the 6.5 foot bed in the CT and 1700lbs vs 3500lbs payload. I'll take the cybertruck.

I know what you mean about the steering on the F series. It seems to me like they try to overcompensate for the harshness at the back by making the front suspension too soft, at least on the 150s. I thought the 250s felt more balanced, if overall much harsher. One thing it could have been is tire pressure - dealers are notorious about not checking them when they come off the truck.

I had similar thoughts during my test drives, as I thought the ford was the truck I would purchase. However a full day of back to back drives, almost comical, really, the GMC was just better in the unladen ride aspect. I also liked the interior, it was more comfortable, it seemed. In the end I don't believe you could go wrong with either. MY only concern going forward is the lack of build time in the factories - GM had a strike, and now this Covid shutdown. There will be a limited number of product in the field, and a short product cycle. I understand your in the need in the short run, but I would bet the 2021's will be a better time to buy. Perhaps the shear lack of business will drive the current prices down. Good luck in your hunt. RB

I’d think things like the camera system will be better on whichever model is most recent, which is the GM now. Ford has a big update coming this year, so keep that in mind, provided you’re willing to wait. But I heard that Ford is moving to first of the year updates rather than than fall, so it may be 9 months or so before they’re out. I know that they’ve got a much larger center display and new dash electronics so new cameras could be in the mix. And on the raptor at least, they’re switching to a coil spring rear end. On the ride quality, be sure you’re comparing apples to apples since any ¾ ton truck is going to be much harsher than a half ton. That said, I don’t think you can go wrong with either. I think the new GMCs are really nice trucks.

@ Renagade, first good luck with your trip up here to Big Sky Country. Welcome! I have lived in MT (Bozeman) for well over 40 years and have been to Glacier countless times during all seasons and have watched the tourism in the park explode since the mid 70's. With that in mind while I agree with some of the responses here I also have a somewhat different perspective on a few things. Weather: come prepared for winter. Montana weather is extremely volatile and at times just as unpredictable, and the park itself on any given day can have dramatically different weather compared to just a short drive out of the park. Given that you are from southern FL, your idea of winter and ours is on an order of magnitude different. On the other hand you might experience days that are sublime and think my suggestions are an empty threat, they are not. For instance just over a year ago, late May-early June, I left home in low 80 degree weather here in SW MT. Arrived in Glacier and the next day the weather turned upside down and stayed that way for 5-6 days. It was what most people would refer to as dead of winter or near so. Heat of the day, 42º, down to near freezing at night howling winds, some snow and often rain. This past fall, winter came early. Perhaps the 2nd or 3rd week of Sept, fall color died on the vine sub zero temps for a week or two with plenty of wet heavy snow. The day before the storm hit my wife and I were hiking in tees and shorts. This is not uncommon at these elevations and latitudes. The closer we get to the shoulder seasons the more volatile the weather can be. Campgrounds: You can get RSVPS at Fish Creek just across the lake from Apgar as well as St Marys and Swiftcurrent in the NE section of the park. John is correct Two Medicine is beautiful but it fills in the short summer quickly every day. It also closes fairly early but don't recall how long after Labor Day, sorry. East Glacier is on the Blackfoot Indian Reservation so laws regarding many things including alcohol can be very different and for what ever unknown reason can change from day to day. Supplies in the area are limited at best IMO. Most hikes from Two Medicine campground tend to be quite long, some with serious elevation gains. In addition to Apgar, Fish Creek, St Mary's (by far my least favorite) consider Swiftcurrent as well as Avalanche Creek which also closes earlier than most. There are size limitations at Rising Sun Campground but you could probably squeeze an Oliver in to one or two of them the rest are far too small. Its also first come first serve. Avalanche Creek does not afford much in the way of views, it is deep into the forest but still a very nice campground centrally located for day tours, hikes and what ever your'e up to for the day. Travel, The route into Glacier: Most are beautiful drives. However I do not recommend the route from Missoula to Kalispell. While there is some beautiful scenery along this route the traffic is VERY HEAVY almost the entire year. It's become more trouble than its worth to me. However I would be remiss if not mentioning the state park campgrounds scattered along the shores of Flathead Lake, all are nice with awesome views and fairly good facilities. My preferred route at least from Bozeman is a trip up the Seely-Swan River Valley that terminates in Big Fork and from there about another hour (towing speed) up to Glacier. There are a slew of very nice USFS and BLM campgrounds along this route as well. The Front Range route through Augusta and Choteau Highway 89 are also very nice but the closer you get to the east side of the park count on steep narrow winding climbs and descents. Its a slow go after Browning assuming you continue on to St Mary's. Camping along this route is virtually a no go unless you decide to head due west into the Front Range where you can find some awesome USFS camps there. This would be a detour however. The southern perimeter route highway 2 will be an easy cake walk though a bit more exciting than what you normally might drive in FL. From Mid August on tourism tapers off considerably both in Yellowstone as well as Glacier, due to kids/family back in school. However the weekends assuming really nice weather will experience quite a bit of day use and some camper influx from the locals out in Flathead Valley. It is worth noting, not once have I ever been able to get a drive up camp spot in Glacier even during the peak of summer season including but not limited to the 4th of July weekend. Bowman Lake can be overwhelmed with local day users during the weekends with nice weather. However don't miss this place, its about an hours drive up there from Apgar but not to be missed. Take the outside road. There is a nice hike along the north shore of Bowman Lake that will take you to the far end of the lake about 14 or so miles RT, but very little elevation gain a rarity in this park. That should be enough to digest for now, good luck on planning your trip. Let me know if you have questions.

Very nicely done to all involved! Who do we have to bribe in order to see the out-takes and/or bloopers?

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I am under the impression that those lights are leds. That being said I would guess you replace the whole unit. Evidently the new units do not have that gasket that leaks black streaks, so I would call Oliver and order a new one. Also ask what they seal it with. Guess you could swap with one you don't use?

Good idea. You could use a chain saw file to dress the hole down for complete drainage, if needed. We have been camping in lots of rain lately, but haven't noticed it being a problem. Guess we were either wet already or just eager o get in and dry...