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This test result, when paired with the fact that a number of Elite II owners have experienced leaf spring failure within the first few years of ownership, is distressing to me as an owner of a 2022 LEGACY Elite II. We paid a premium price (over $80K) for a "Premium Luxury Travel" trailer, which I now know came with cheap, sub-standard Chinese 4-leaf springs that will likely fail soon. My ALCAN 5-leaf replacement springs have already been received, and will be installed soon, because I don't want the cheap OEM springs to fail on the road somewhere. Apparently the term "Legacy" is just marketing hype. Oliver would be well advised to specify that higher-quality, 5-leaf springs be supplied by Dexter with its axles going forward, particularly now that the Elite II base price is over $95K. How Oliver addresses this issue will tell me a lot about the company. Perhaps when asked, I should describe it as a "premium-priced trailer with some cheap critical OEM components."

Access to the expertise of the Service team in Hohenwald is also critically important to me. Perhaps delegating "hands on" service work to dealer techs will free up more time for the excellent Service Team in Hohenwald to provide just the kind of expert help rich.dev describes above to more Oliver owners, as the number of hulls on the road continues to increase?

Battery replacement is not unique to Oliver travel trailers. Although it would be best if listed Oliver dealers were actually ready to service Olivers, dealer service (including service provided by Oliver in Hohenwald) is usually much more expensive than independent service. For "generic" RV issues, like batteries, it is not necessary to find dealer service. I would advise Paul Polk to find a Batteries Plus location in LA and ask them to replace his AGM batteries. Batteries Plus does installation.

I can't see any photos. Did you upload them?

Wicking Loctite (Green). You can put a drop on the bolt threads and it will wick into the threaded connection. https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-29031-Green-Wicking-Threadlockers/dp/B004FCH82C

When I met with Operations Manager Rodney Lomax on November 14, 2022 (while the few issues we found with our Hull #1291 after delivery were being promptly addressed by the Service Department), I told him: "Whatever you pay Jason Essary, it's not enough." One year+ later, my view has not changed.

I expect it is not realistic to believe that our closest dealer (in Orem, Utah) will employ a Service Manager of as high a caliber as Jason Essary. The only thing constant is change......

The best part of buying an Oliver has been the Service Department. Will owners still be able to submit service tickets online, and get a response from the team in Hohenwald? I hope the response to service tickets is not: "See your local dealer."

Also known as an aerator, when referring to faucets.

For what it's worth, the extra length of the plumbing run to our Elite II bath does not noticeably affect the flow volume or pressure vs. the kitchen. In your shoes, I would be looking for some kind of blockage in the bath supply line, starting with possible calcium buildup over the past 8 years since Hull # 158 was built.

The flow to our bath faucet/shower head in Hull #1291 is about the same as the flow to the kitchen sink. If the flow from your flexible bath faucet/shower head hose (with the faucet/shower head removed) is not about the same as the robust flow into the kitchen sink shown in your video, then you likely have flow restriction somewhere between the kitchen and bath. If so, my next step would be to try the decalcification process referenced by Jason Foster above.

That is why I put my pair of dual-fuel Champion generators in the bed of my pickup, under the truck canopy, when it is raining. Even though I don't have the optional front 30A power connection, I have a 50-ft. 30A power cord that will reach the 30A connection on the driver's side of the Elite II.

As I recall, Oliver has been sent a link to this thread. Given the gravity of the error, it would be appropriate customer care, in my judgment, for Oliver to provide an answer to this question. I also recommend that all Elite II owners with 2" couplers verify that their Bulldog couplers are rated for 7K lbs.

I carry a pair of Robogrips in the bed of my Tundra for this purpose.

I have towed our Elite II about 3K miles with an Andersen WD hitch. In my experience, so long as both chains feel taut, the Andersen hitch works just fine. "Perfect" is not required; close is good enough.

You might consider replacing some of the extra chain links required to connect the Andersen WD hitch to your Oliver with turnbuckles. If the truck changes height on you, you may be able to simply adjust the turnbuckles to compensate. Although I tow with a Tundra that does not have an airbag suspension, I find it easier to attach the Andersen with the turnbuckles loose, then tighten the turnbuckles to make the chain assembly taut. See this thread:

This piece of evidence suggests that Oliver uses 5K Bulldog couplers for Elite I builds. It supports the conclusion that mounting a 5K coupler on Rideadeuce's Elite II may have resulted from simply pulling the coupler from the wrong parts slot. Given the potential consequences, Oliver would be well advised to physically separate the 5K Bulldog couplers from the 7K couplers, and to add redundant verification that the correct coupler was installed on all Elite IIs.

Yes. It is identical to the 2-5/16" Bulldog coupler mounted on our Hull #1291 by Oliver during manufacturing. See photo below. I didn't know it when ordering, but there was little chance that a 2-5/16" coupler would be confused with a 2" coupler rated for only 5K lbs. Another reason I like to overbuild.

It appears to me that Oliver owes you reimbursement for your replacement coupler. I recommend you submit a service ticket. Oliver has acted responsibly when advised of manufacturing errors in the past.

Another solution: install turnbuckles into the extra chain length required to connect the Andersen WD hitch to the Oliver. See the thread embedded below. Just loosen the turnbuckle on the side that won't reach the whale tail until it is long enough to reach, then tighten the turnbuckle once the whale tail is straight. All of this can be done while standing. I carry Robogrips for this purpose:

I, too, am stunned to see your photos. Kudos to you for thinking to unbolt the original coupler and locate a replacement. Your report makes me glad we upgraded to the 2-5/16" coupler when we bought Hull #1291!

Our Hull #1291 has two 5200 lb. axles. I have ordered a set of 4, two for each axle. As the new 5-leaf springs are rated at 2000 lbs. each, the result will be 4000 lbs. of spring support per axle, for a total of 8000 lbs. of spring support for the trailer.

We bought Hull #1291 in November, 2022. Our first RV of any kind. I researched for two years, including looking at many trailers. I also spent much time on this forum, before settling on the Oliver Elite II. Along with overall build quality, the quality of help available via this forum was one positive factor resulting in our purchase. After our purchase, I have continued to learn lots of valuable info about repair and maintenance of our Oliver here. My wife and I remain pleased with our decision, and with the content available on this forum.

We must ask ScubaRx. The above quote came from him, not me.

Please advise Mike at ALCAN that all of our Oliver trailers are underslung.