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I'm sad to see the Nest go. ButvI was sad when Airstream bought it out from Robert Johans. As his original design, it was an innovative, light and airy camper. Yes, it was more suitable for weekends or short trips, and didn't have a full bathroom, but it was 30 per cent or better less in weight, and, if course, price. Airstream clunked the floorplans, bloated the interior with heavy builtins, and failed in execution, except for creating lovely photos and a cool little website. Actually, if it weren't for the weight, and making up the bed every day, the 16u floorplan wasn't as terrible as the permanent bed plan. But a ridiculous price for the Airstream label. Was it ever a camper for me? No. Not really. But I'm still sad that an innovative product had its life shortened. https://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2013/11/good-design-for-great-outdoors-nest.html?m=1 Sherry

So, assuming this is the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk? Your Elite should look great paired with this 4 x 4. The tow package was standard, right? I believe we had one or two others towing Elites with the Grand Cherokee. With a gvwr on the Elite of 5000 pounds, you'll likely be happy, and well within your tow capacity. I'd encourage you to limit the amount of "stuff" you carry the first trip, just til you get used to it. What else have you towed with the Trailhawk? That's the Grand Cherokee version my daughter really loved when she was looking last year, but it was out of her budget range. Sherry

Yes, I believe it means the poster is a newer member. I'm assuming it will disappear after five or ten posts. A new member designation is common on a lot of forums, but we've never had it here, until now. Sherry

Mac and rideandfly, when you have the atv or utv on the back, is it possible to open the tailgate and access anything in the pickup bed? Do either of you have slide drawers for " the rest of the stuff."? What ramps do you carry for the atv/utv? That's a pretty steep incline for loading/unloading. Sherry

Essential in fly season! And I love Tractor Supply. At many of them, you can buy lpg by weight.

Here's another. An ice cube tray that won't spill water underway. I bought mine in Australia years ago for 2 or 3 dollars, but the OXO version is nicer, with the silicon lid,, even though a little more.

I often spend a lot of time discussing big purchases on this forum. But, it's often the little things that make our days (or nights. ) What's your best purchase, under $20, that you use all the time? I have many, but I will start with a few: Harbor freight flashlight. Used to be free with a coupon, now it's under a dollar. The hook on the front I can hang off my collar. I love these flashlights. Two modes, bright leds. I use them all the time.

I moved and split this topic. Sherry

Thanks, John. I don't think many of us are fond of insects, as necessary as they are to our environment. All the measures I mentioned, except deet, which I apply only when necessary, are great for mosquitoes, chiggers, and sunburn, etc., as well. Today's technical clothing makes it much easier to protect and cover up, without keeling over from heat exhaustion . I know my photo wouldn't win any fashion awards, but that's the least of my concerns in the woods. 🙂

I know you know mitigation measures, John, but I'll put it out here for new campers in our group, who may be more accustomed to urban environments. Decades ago, ticks were pretty much just an annoyance. Now, with diseases carried, we're all more careful. What I do: Long pants. Tucked into hiking socks. Spray clothing (not my skin) with deet, if it's season. Long sleeves. Tuck in your shirt. Stay out of long grass, and shrub when possible. Light colored clothing makes it easier to see the critters. A forester years ago told me khaki color is best. Shower daily. Ticks usually wander awhile before they find a sweet spot. A scrubbing shower will usually dislodge unattached wanderers. Check dogs frequently. Comb them. Medicate ahead if time. They're susceptible to Lyme disease, too. Though not likely, ticks can wander from them, to you. If you do find a tick, remove it carefully, properly, and promptly. You can keep it in a jar or zip lock for analysis later. In my years if camping and hiking, I've had some ticks attach, even being careful. Three on my dogs. Even if you're careful, it can happen. Not to panic. Not every tick is a disease carrier. But, it's best to limit exposure. I probably missed some ideas. Add away. Sherry

Really nice! Thanks for sharing the coordinates.

Jason, where would I find the app to download it and try it? Sherry

I agree. Everything looks great.

That's a really nice look, Mike. How did you attach the cornices? Are the constructed from light plywood?

Welcome to the forum. Let us know how we can help. Sherry

I "think" most of the interior of our Elite is around 6'1". The door will require ducking, but it's probably the same door on many trailers. I'll try to measure tomorrow. If the ac us in the same place as it is in our 2008, over the bed, mostly, it won't be a big deal. The shower may require "sitdown" for taller folks. Sherry

This is close to the original twin bed configuration of the elite I, circa 2008/9. I remember the "desk" being a nightstand, and both bunks being +- 24 to 28 inches. It wasn't well received. The drop down table was awkward. The small dinette bed was really narrow, and 6' long. Ok for some but not for couples. I do think it's a terrific floorplan for solo campers. Hope it will be revived . Thanks, KenB, for the trip down memory lane, and thanks, DavidS, for the floorplan. Sherry

I haven't looked for an app, But, the mobile version for phones and tablets, as I use, is far improved, at least in my opinion. Some buttons have moved a bit, but I can find them. Hope everyone else feels the same.

I really like this format, especially the condensed view, on my phone. 😀

That's great news, Susan. I don't want to hijack the thread, but you may be able to research some old land maps, which were labeled with owners' names. It can be a tedious exercise, but I found many of our family's ancestral farms that way. I'll send you a pm.

Welcome to the forum, RichD. You won't be the first who has moved from Airstream to Oliver, if you decide to join us. There's a recent extensive thread comparing the two that you may have already read: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/4428-oliver-eliteii-vs-airstream/ I've always been fond of the shape and shine of the airstream, but the Oliver has been a comfortable, sturdy trailer for us for 13 seasons. Sherry

Back in the day, when Oliver was building only 5 or 10 trailers a month, we could send any fabric we wanted to their upholsterer. I, too, miss that custom touch of personality that the early trailers had. My trailer sports a midmod print in green and gold. The downside is, I can't "change up the look" as easily as I could if I had selected a solid neutral cushion. It's been hard to find coordinating items in 60s colors. I've been thinking about making slipcovers for the small dinette. We keep the big one made up as a bed, so it's only 4 cushions. I'm looking at some blues, these days. I will say, Oliver has chosen some beautiful fabrics for their standard selections, much more attractive than the brown swirly prints that I see in the sticky units we deliver to Alaska. Maybe if enough people asked, Oliver would add some brighter hues to the fabric selections. Can't hurt to ask. Sherry

I do see that Oliver offers an upgrade now for 2 6v agm batteries. Hopefully, that was true in the 2017, also. This reminded me of some very old posts, where early owners modified the early tray to fit larger batteries, and at least one owner did install trojan t105s. (Which, I agree, are very good batteries.) Sherry

Billghon, welcome to the forum. We have a 2008 elite. We have camped in weather with lows in the teens. If I were going to camp in zero lows (which I would hope never to do,) I'd want a composting toilet, and I'd winterize the trailer. I have the original, older trailer, so today's insulation is better. Maybe, someone with a newer trailer and real winter experience will chime in. Sherry

If the newer battery tray in the Elite will hold two Trojan t105s, that would be a great improvement. Maybe we should ask the owners of the 2017 Elite?