Rear Cargo Carrier (Basket)

[HDRider]

 

Can someone suggest a basket that fits the 1 1/4" receiver?

 

I searched the forum but I did not find anything.  I know it has to be there.

[rich.dev]

I don't have a rear cargo carrier/basket, but here are 3 threads that might  give you some ideas.

 

 

[HDRider]

28 minutes ago, rich.dev said:

I don't have a rear cargo carrier/basket, but here are 3 threads that might  give you some ideas.

 

 

I had looked at those.  They used a 2" receiver.  I want to stay with the stock 1 1/4"

[rich.dev]

38 minutes ago, HDRider said:

I had looked at those.  They used a 2" receiver.  I want to stay with the stock 1 1/4"

Actually I believe they all extended the end square aluminum tubing as supports.

[Rivernerd]

1 hour ago, HDRider said:

I had looked at those.  They used a 2" receiver.  I want to stay with the stock 1 1/4"

There have been threads on this forum discussing the weight limitations of racks (bike, cargo, etc.) on the back of an Oliver.  As I recall, the limitations result from the increased dynamic load exerted by anything cantilevered off the back of the trailer, far aft of the rear axle.  These limitations, in turn, prompted Oliver to limit the bike rack mount to 1-1/4". 

I recommend you carefully consider what you want to carry behind the trailer, and how that will impact the longevity of the aluminum frame.

 

[Ollie-Haus]

2 hours ago, HDRider said:

 

Can someone suggest a basket that fits the 1 1/4" receiver?

 

I searched the forum but I did not find anything.  I know it has to be there.

Thanks @rich.dev for the attached links. As was mentioned above, I also would advise against mounting a tray or box by the 1.25" receiver. There's a lot of dynamic load with an extended cargo tray, or bike rack for that matter. The single point Oliver hitch allows a lot of movement side to side and up and down. The two point mount used by those of us that installed boxes or trays inherently provides a high level of stability as well as a direct mount to the trailer main frame rails. Also the 2" sockets at those locations allow you to use a heavy wall 2" square tube which substantially increases the strength of those connections. 

Even mounted by the 2" tubes, you still use the hitch pins Oliver used to secure the bike rack mounting frame. This still allows the tray or box to be quickly removed for installing a bike rack or service needs. 

All this having been said, I still believe you should limit the total weight mounted to the back to the maximum that Oliver recommends. The tray or box mounted doesn't extend much farther from the bumper than a double bike rack would, so the loads should be somewhat similar to those exerted by two bikes mounted on the Oliver mount. But again the cargo box is mounted directly with two points that are extremely stable and secure. Just my thoughts. 

Edit: Additional thoughts. Regardless of your method of mounting a cargo box, clearance for the lid to open without hitting the spare tire cover must be considered. Also if you make the mounting tubes extend far enough into the frame sockets, you will be able to slide the box back far enough to remove the spare tire without completely removing the box from the trailer. This was very important to me because complete removal requires two people and sliding it back enough for tire access can be done by one person. 

Edited April 12 by Ollie-Haus

[HDRider]

2 hours ago, Rivernerd said:

There have been threads on this forum discussing the weight limitations of racks (bike, cargo, etc.) on the back of an Oliver.  As I recall, the limitations result from the increased dynamic load exerted by anything cantilevered off the back of the trailer, far aft of the rear axle.  These limitations, in turn, prompted Oliver to limit the bike rack mount to 1-1/4". 

I recommend you carefully consider what you want to carry behind the trailer, and how that will impact the longevity of the aluminum frame.

 

I think the new Ollies come with a 2".

 

The label says 150 pound limit. 

[HDRider]

1 hour ago, Ollie-Haus said:

All this having been said, I still believe you should limit the total weight mounted to the back to the maximum that Oliver recommends.

The label on the Oliver bumper says 150 pounds.  Maybe an engineer might be able to say with some certainty, but I have to think I'd be OK with a tray that weighs 23 pounds and a cooler full of ice.

[HDRider]

I think I am getting this with an adapter that takes 1 1/4" to 2".

 

Edited April 13 by HDRider

[Rolind]

We have this one and have been very happy with it. We only carry our black tank tote on it (Camco 28 gallon rv tote) which doesn’t weigh very much. It is stable and well suited for our needs. It does block the license plate.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JF53ZEE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Patriot]

6 hours ago, HDRider said:

I think the new Ollies come with a 2".

 

The label says 150 pound limit. 

Yes, the new Olivers do come with a 2” receiver. 
 

Edited April 13 by Patriot
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[Wandering Sagebrush]

Our bumper box is welded to aluminum tubes that fit into the original receivers that Oliver installed for adding a bike mount.  We limit the load to under 100 pounds.

[MAX Burner]

7 minutes ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

We limit the load to under 100 pounds.

Good call, brother!  😉

[jd1923]

2 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

Our bumper box is welded to aluminum tubes that fit into the original receivers that Oliver installed for adding a bike mount.  We limit the load to under 100 pounds.

This is the way to do it. You need dual receivers for a viable carrier. Not a 1 1/4" receiver, but TWO 2" receivers!  @rich.dev has a great example, see picture above.

The 1 1/4" single receiver with something like the cheap Kurt carrier (Amazon link above) will bounce and wobble all over the place. Just for a "tank tote" as @Rolind suggested OK, but not much more!

Even though our hull is older, ours has the 2" receiver but I removed the whole crossbar and it's sitting in the attic of our shed. I much rather have the weight in the TV. Even the rear basement storage of the Oliver should not contain much weight. We keep only about 30 LBS of stuff back there; the shore power cable, 25' hose, a small tool bag for hooking up accessories and tools, our camping mat, an empty gas can and 2 empty antifreeze gallon bottles for emergencies (they weigh next to nothing).

I do understand many of you have SUVs as TVs, so are always looking for more room. Think 3/4-ton truck for your future and these needs go away! @HDRider not sure why you would need one, towing with a 2500 Duramax.

[HDRider]

8 hours ago, jd1923 said:

not sure why you would need one

Just thought it would be a good place to carry a cooler.  Not a need, simply a want

[jd1923]

@HDRider coolers are very heavy when full, a tank tote is light when stored empty. Pull your 1 1/4" hitch bar off completely, buy some 2x2" Aluminum stock and build something like what @rich.dev showed above (an excellent example).

You really need the two receivers, so it doesn't wobble up-n-down and left-to-right. The beauty is OTT already installed two perfect receivers for any kind of well-supported shelf or basket. They say 150 LBS MAX for the bike rack. I would think Rich's design could easily hold 250+ LBS, if you want that much weight, that far rear. You want to over-engineer such a cargo carrier so that it is safe and sits nicely for years.

[Patriot]

Being a bit risk adverse, I would throw a caution flag about exceeding the 150# weight limit Oliver recommends anywhere on the rear bumper. @Rivernerd makes a really good point about dynamic load. Exceeding this weight limit could adversely impact how the trailer handles, not to mention the liability if a failure occurs. Something else to consider is any modifications to the existing OEM build might adversely impact frame warranty coverage by Oliver for newer model original owners. 

 

Edited April 14 by Patriot
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[ScubaRx]

Here is a thread I posted back in 2017 about some mods I had done to the Outlaw Oliver.  One of them concerns a rear basket I made to carry chairs and lighter, bulky stuff.

 

 

[Patriot]

Just spoke with Mike at OTT Service. This new 2” receiver will not retro fit or swap out into the existing bolt holes on your bumper.
It has a wider bolt pattern. 

[ScubaRx]

16 minutes ago, Patriot said:

Just spoke with Mike at OTT Service. This new 2” receiver will not retro fit or swap out into the existing bolt holes on your bumper.
It has a wider bolt pattern. 

I'd just sandwich the cross member with a larger secondary backing plate in between and below with proper hole spacing for the hitch and throuth bolt the whole thing. It would be stronger than the above arraignment and solve the problem of the mis-aligned holes.

[Ollie-Haus]

3 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

I'd just sandwich the cross member with a larger secondary backing plate in between and below with proper hole spacing for the hitch and throuth bolt the whole thing. It would be stronger than the above arraignment and solve the problem of the mis-aligned holes.

Love it @ScubaRx. When it comes to fabrication, there's always a solution. 

[Doug S]

On 4/13/2024 at 12:40 AM, Patriot said:

Yes, the new Olivers do come with a 2” receiver. 
 

Hmmm - mine didn't - Hull #1491.

[rich.dev]

4 minutes ago, Doug S said:

Hmmm - mine didn't - Hull #1491.

No worries, get yourself one of these or similar, much studier than that new Oliver 2' receiver! 

[ScubaRx]

4 minutes ago, Doug S said:

Hmmm - mine didn't - Hull #1491.

It's not standard and free, you would have had to specified wanting it in the original order. I'm sure you can still buy it, but you will have to drill four vertical, perfectly spaced holes down through the back end of the frame rails to mount the two receivers.

[ScubaRx]

4 minutes ago, rich.dev said:

No worries, get yourself one of these or similar, much studier than that new Oliver 2' receiver! 

I agree that that is a much better Hitch Receiver but he would still have to have the crossbar to mount it on.