csevel Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) Just a heads up, I recently had to replace the window rain gutter trim around my windows because the original trim was never brought down far enough along the edge of the window and they were starting to peel and come off exposing the 3M tape and simply not doing the job intended and leaving longer black streaks than I like. DO NOT PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT FOR YOUR OLIVER: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D98165TN?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 It's horrible. It was purely my decision to go ahead with the install even though the color was a bit off and not nearly the quality of the original gutter. The tape is crap and even though I installed on an 85 degree day and let it sit for days, the rounded corners lifted on the first rain and it looks awful. Again, I knew that there was a chance that I'd have to peel it all off and start over..but I took the gamble. Just know, it's an inferior product. The lower price point should have tipped me off... I'm hoping this product is superior at more than twice the price: https://recpro.com/rv-rain-gutter-trim-with-adhesive-backing/?srsltid=AfmBOopQirOHpRVjMz9qYBNAXXOuiSK1bDn8mqsrwrVR8CRQd1liPtrE Let me know if you have had better luck with RecPro. My research suggests the original product was made by Essential Products called EZE RV Windshield Gutter, but I can't find it anywhere. Live and Learn, Sigh, Claudia Edited October 15 by csevel addition 5 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyGS Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 You want the Trim Lok Drip Rail with the 3M backing tape. https://www.trimlok.com/plastic-extrusion/drip-rail The 3M adhesive is awesome. Put it on #145 in 2016 and still doing the job. I would actually be afraid to take it off now for any reason. It's part of the trailer. Good Luck Scotty 5 2 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ScottyGS said: You want the Trim Lok Drip Rail with the 3M backing tape. https://www.trimlok.com/plastic-extrusion/drip-rail The 3M adhesive is awesome. Put it on #145 in 2016 and still doing the job. I would actually be afraid to take it off now for any reason. It's part of the trailer. Good Luck Scotty Unfortunately, the Trim-Lok Brand in white seems to be sold out on many sites. May have to go direct. I Agree.. Taking it off twice should be fun times 😞 I actually think it prevents having to re-caulk the top of the windows. Claudia Edited October 15 by csevel 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 The referenced site indicates purchases of 250 feet. How to Order a Drip Rail from Trim-Lok Trim-Lok’s Drip Rails are easy to order. Go to our drip rail product page, choose your color, and choose your quantity of 250-foot boxes of the plastic drip rail. GJ 1 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyGS Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 11 minutes ago, csevel said: I actually think it prevents having to re-caulk the top of the windows. I have read so many posts about clogged weep holes and how important it is to keep them clean to avoid horrendous leaks. The trim lok's were just about the first thing I did to my trailer. When I do check the window channels and weep holes they are always free of debris. Maybe some dust but that's about it. I think the trim lok's prevent a LOT of problems. Gregg 1 2 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyGS Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Geronimo John said: The referenced site indicates purchases of 250 feet. Search on this on Amazon. They sell 25' lengths. I put the trim lok site link in my reply because it was the company site. If memory serves you can do one LE2 with a 25' length, but you have to be careful. Scotty Trim-Lok Drip Rail, White – 1/2” Height, 25’ Length – PVC Plastic Rain Gutter for Cars, Vans, and RVs, Easy to Install Flexible Drip Rail Molding to Control Water Runoff, Durable 3M Tape Included 5 1 1 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNY SD UP Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) Claudia, There a number of threads out there on this MOD. In one, Mike (and probably Carol helping) added their Drip rail, and as they were applying it, on a warm day, used some Blue Painters Tape to hold it in place, as they worked along. I will let Mike tell you why he used 'Tape'. The next day (Mike commanded the SUN GOD to change its axis, so the other side of the trailer would be in the SUN. While he was waiting, Carol re-oriented the trailer so the other working side was in the sun, and they could continue in this life-time. Thus avoiding a Galactic Calamity... "my words, not their actions") I believe they removed the tape the next day after each application, and did not have any issues with it. I do not remember which vendor of the 'Drip Rail' they used. It was a very informative thread, with lots of comments as to the experiences of others. Sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience, we are almost in the part of the year, that projects like this will have to wait until warmer days. Kind Regards, As the CAMPING Season transitions. Bryan Edited October 16 by SNY SD UP 1 Maggie & Bryan | Arnegard, ND | 2020 LE II "Twins" Hull #665 | 2021 RAM 2500 6.4L HEMI Gasser 4dr 6.5' bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 35 minutes ago, SNY SD UP said: Claudia, There a number of threads out there on this MOD. In one, Mike (and probably Carol helping) added their Drip rail, and as they were applying it, on a warm day, used some Blue Painters Tape to hold it in place, as they worked along. I will let Mike tell you why he used 'Tape'. The next day (Mike commanded the SUN GOD to change its axis, so the other side of the trailer would be in the SUN. While he was waiting, Carol re-oriented the trailer so the other working side was in the sun, and they could continue in this life-time. Thus avoiding a Galactic Calamity... "my words, not their actions") I believe they removed the tape the next day after each application, and did not have any issues with it. I do not remember which vendor of the 'Drip Rail' they used. It was a very informative thread, with lots of comments as to the experiences of others. Sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience, we are almost in the part of the year, that projects like this will have to wait until warmer days. Kind Regards, As the CAMPING Season transitions. Bryan I'm aware of the posts and did in fact do my install on a hot day with tape. It sat for three days in warm weather... My Casita had drip rail as well so it's not my first attempt...Just wanted to help new owners be aware of the bad product. 2 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 4 hours ago, ScottyGS said: Search on this on Amazon. They sell 25' lengths. I put the trim lok site link in my reply because it was the company site. If memory serves you can do one LE2 with a 25' length, but you have to be careful. Scotty Trim-Lok Drip Rail, White – 1/2” Height, 25’ Length – PVC Plastic Rain Gutter for Cars, Vans, and RVs, Easy to Install Flexible Drip Rail Molding to Control Water Runoff, Durable 3M Tape Included Thank You! I plan on using about 31 feet or so because I want to bring the ends down alongside the windows like John E. Davies so two rolls for me! 2 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 5 hours ago, Geronimo John said: The referenced site indicates purchases of 250 feet. How to Order a Drip Rail from Trim-Lok Trim-Lok’s Drip Rails are easy to order. Go to our drip rail product page, choose your color, and choose your quantity of 250-foot boxes of the plastic drip rail. GJ Since this is not my first, second OR third try... I'll be really good at it so line up ten or so Ollies and I'll simply do them all!! LOL 4 4 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted October 16 Moderators Share Posted October 16 (edited) Seriously, Claudia knows what she's doing. She's trying to help others. The warning is out there. She posted a specific link to the defective product. Not ez rv gutter, not trim loc, so take it for what it's worth. Her sage advice after a big fail. Edited October 16 by SeaDawg 4 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted October 16 Moderators Share Posted October 16 So, has anyone used the recpro product? We've always used ez rv gutter, so I can't comment on recpro product. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyGS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 12 hours ago, csevel said: Since this is not my first, second OR third try... I'll be really good at it so line up ten or so Ollies and I'll simply do them all!! LOL Hmmmm..... A trim lok installation business..... I'll look forward to your presentation at the 2025 rally! Scotty 1 1 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 15 hours ago, SeaDawg said: So, has anyone used the recpro product? We've always used ez rv gutter, so I can't comment on recpro product. I think the EZE RV Rain Gutters is the product that was used originally on my Oliver by the previous owner. The least expensive I could find was $145 for 50 feet. I ordered 25' of the Trim-Loc from Amazon for $65; hopefully it will be the same quality 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 I managed to easily rip the gutters off before trash day in 50 degree weather. They came off without hardly pulling and very little tape to scrape off. I hope the Trim-Loc will be a better product. 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 On 10/15/2024 at 4:39 PM, csevel said: Since this is not my first, second OR third try... I'll be really good at it so line up ten or so Ollies and I'll simply do them all!! LOL Wow you ROCK! GJ TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted October 17 Moderators Share Posted October 17 That 90 degree turn around the windows puts a bunch of stress on the channel. Still, no excuse for a product using inferior bonding tape. Having said this - before removing the entire thing and reinstalling, I'd suggest trying a bit of E6000 on the places that are detached. Hold in place for 24 hours with blue painters tape and don't go crazy on the E6000 if you care about how the repair looks. Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, topgun2 said: That 90 degree turn around the windows puts a bunch of stress on the channel. Still, no excuse for a product using inferior bonding tape. Having said this - before removing the entire thing and reinstalling, I'd suggest trying a bit of E6000 on the places that are detached. Hold in place for 24 hours with blue painters tape and don't go crazy on the E6000 if you care about how the repair looks. Bill Too late, but that's a helpful tip. The product (which I have seen many iterations of on Anazon) was also of a cheap rubber/plastic material. The color was off too and I simply knew in my gut I was making a mistake installing it. At least it came off easy and I can start fresh! Seriously hoping the Trim-Loc is better overall. 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, csevel said: Too late, but that's a helpful tip. The product (which I have seen many iterations of on Anazon) was also of a cheap rubber/plastic material. The color was off too and I simply knew in my gut I was making a mistake installing it. At least it came off easy and I can start fresh! Seriously hoping the Trim-Loc is better overall. Not sure when you plan to install the new rain gutters. We installed ours when the weather was in the high 70’s low 80’s giving the adhesive time to cure and just making the gutter material much easier to work with. Something to consider when you install the new product. It also made the trim easier to line up, cut and apply after laying it stretched out in the sunshine over top of my truck. I think we left the blue painters tape on for a day or so. No issues yet. I hope it all works out well for you. Edited October 17 by Patriot 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina 🇺🇸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted October 17 Moderators Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Patriot said: Not sure when you plan to install the new rain gutters. We installed ours when the weather was in the high 70’s low 80’s giving the adhesive time to cure and just making the gutter material much easier to work with. Something to consider when you install the new product. It also made the trim easier to line up, cut and apply after laying it stretched out in the sunshine over top of my truck. I think we left the blue painters tape on for a day or so. I hope it all works out well for you. My first rain gutter install was a total fail. I did it in sunny 80 degree weather, perfect! Unfortunately, we went from 80’s to 40s overnight and all the corners popped off. I reinstalled in 90 degree weather and overnight low was high 70s. Left the tape on for 24+ hours. It’s been years now and no issues. Pay close attention to the weather! Mike 1 4 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 On 10/15/2024 at 10:15 AM, csevel said: DO NOT PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT FOR YOUR OLIVER: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D98165TN?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 It's horrible. It was purely my decision to go ahead with the install even though the color was a bit off and not nearly the quality of the original gutter. The tape is crap and even though I installed on an 85 degree day and let it sit for days, the rounded corners lifted on the first rain and it looks awful. Again, I knew that there was a chance that I'd have to peel it all off and start over..but I took the gamble. Just know, it's an inferior product. The lower price point should have tipped me off Claudia: I recommend you cut and paste the above in to the Amazon Reviews. It is to the point and honest. GJ 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted October 20 Author Share Posted October 20 8 hours ago, Geronimo John said: Claudia: I recommend you cut and paste the above in to the Amazon Reviews. It is to the point and honest. GJ Way ahead of ya.. done and done like 3 1 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) That does not surprise me at all! 🙂 GJ Edited October 21 by Geronimo John 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Foster Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Good to know. 2014 Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel 4X4 Truck 2024 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull 1460 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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