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  1. Klein Tools RT210 Outlet Tester, Receptacle Tester for GFCI / Standard North American AC Electrical Outlets, Detects Common Wiring Problems - - Amazon.com Or similar. Usually less then $12. I use this to verify the AC power pedestal is wired correctly. You may need an adaptor or two. Then plug your Oliver into the appropriate receptacle. You have no need for additional protection. The Progressive system does the work. The display will inform you of voltage, amps, and any errors. This works for me very well. RB
  2. Doesn't matter what it is - most coffee makers, toaster ovens, space heaters run 1500 - 1800 watts max - -for some period of time - and that is a good amount of amperage - "fuel" drained from the tank. Resistance appliances are energy hogs. Use them sparingly if you are on solar - in sketchy sun light. On shore power - have at it. We managed several weeks on solar - no problem. (ran a portable freezer off the inverter the entire time) Power management. I actually enjoyed the challenge - and I carry a decent stove top perk coffee pot.
  3. As the other "opinion" on this issue - I was somewhat surprised to discover the BAS cable was not long enough to reach the same connection spot as the chain hook. The Oliver folks had simply connected it to the chain, as shown in Sheri's pics - but also not routed it in a workmanlike manner. The cable was NOT sufficiently long enough to reach any vehicle I have experienced. Given what was available at the time - the current connection was and is sufficient - but can be improved very simply - heck a few looped HD ty bands would do the trick. Oliver delivery personnel should have remedied this at delivery - in my view. I will add - the Anderson hook up - a much improved design over the one I had - stinks - when it comes to pinning the whale tale. A novice - if they don't cuss- will - after fussing with the pin. Get a grinder - bevel the pin, and loosen the damn chains. Otherwise - find a sailor and go to town...... Sheri - you don't have to do anything - but later, you can make it more better- .
  4. Storage - after a few trips in the EII - you will be amazed how much you can squirrel away. After two + years we still wonder why - we have this, or that along for the trip. I doubt we will ever fully reach "ZEN" status with our needs - vs wants - but hey - its the American way....
  5. We are just to simple - our "needs wash" clothes go to a cloth bag, thrown into the front closet - besides - the basement is full of rv stuff - you know- important stuff- real important stuff, well ok; its my (RV) stuff - so CB says......
  6. I once thought the same about mine - often reads just three batteries - full sun, and on shore power. It does - at times hit the full mark. The chart above sort of spells it out. I believe it is just at the point of full - and will full charge when it hits the right voltage. I'm sure one of the experts will chime in with detail. In any case, I just quit worrying about it - it has always done fine - I ran it down to the yellow a few times - full sun brought it back- each time- Seems the coffee makers 1500 watts pushes the limits after awhile..... That is one of the limitations with our set-up - you really don't know where you are at - unless you add something that monitors and displays better data. As long as it shows 13volts - I am ok.
  7. John, Not to say your bedtime matches mine - but now that my usual slumber too often comes about 8pm (ha- ha) - I doubt I would ever know a seal was lurking outside my window....approaching what used to be old age - has it's benefits. 60 may be the new 45, but 8pm is now the new 10pm........ On the other hand - I was always intrigued by the boys training on the same beaches of CA and FL that we frequented not so long ago. Last time was off Pensacola - Spec Forces running down the beach, and later - Navy Blue Angles overhead on practice runs - a good day. RB
  8. How long are you staying in your current spot? Sat weather looks interesting - would you like a visit - my SO needs to get out for a brief trip. (ok, so would I , and the dog - Harley) text me - 615 six 0ne three two four23.
  9. Yep - or at a minimum - design sheet, specs, etc. A really nice job. One I will have in mind in a few years. RB
  10. Many people - when camped, just leave it in place - securely locked to the trailer frame. If that is not to your liking, then in the rear of a truck, or perhaps SUV ( I don't like that). If you have the front tray (as I) that is a fine place to store and carry the unit. Now - with the soft start - many here get by on the smaller gen sets. That is your choice. - I prefer the lighter 2000+/- watt units. As an aside - I don't understand why the manufactures don't offer a 2500 watt (or so) 60 lbs. unit - between the current offerings - Your Oliver and ours are close siblings - 5 later is ours. Edit - seems I was wrong - again - There is at least one 2500 watt out there. 2500-Watt Inverter - Champion Power Equipment
  11. Wonderful. It is all an adventure. Soon - backing the Ollie into a spot up will be just something you do as part of the process, easy peasy. Enjoy. RB
  12. Topgun, I have been wondering about this very issue - after last years experiences- and looking into 2021, it seemed to me little had changed - lots of free time, and $$. I too had looked at a few places - and saw similar demand. Any western trips we take will probably be focused on boondocking. Perhaps smart planning may help - but - we may just have to take our chances. If I were to wager - I'd also bet this years RV'ing will be more congested, busy, and aggravating than 2020. Overcome and adapt will be the 2021 motto. Those FCFS spots will be competitive. Good luck on your planning. RB
  13. Thank you Fritz. Excellent information. RB
  14. In my opinion - we all have one, or two,😲 Perhaps I am way off base - I don't believe the majority of current and future Oliver owners are as tech savvy on the LI systems and their peculiar needs as are the majority of the intelligent and learned posters on this forum. (This poster - excepted) As Jairon states - it is an expensive system to lose to excessive heat or cold, or whatever. One only needs to see the creative engineering of these same folks to understand that sensitivity to temps is something to be considered. A few summer days- parked unattended in my sons Phoenix driveway - at 110 + degrees- may need some attention? Similar situation - but in winter, at -35 in my other Son's Fairbanks driveway. Seems heating would be needed - or removal - AGM's - from my research - are much more temperature tolerant when fully charged. The central point in my cautious attitude on the LI package is the initial cost - and the state of current Oliver system engineering and design. I'm not saying it is Bad - I'm saying the AGM system may be a more cost effective and user friendly system for the average RV owner in todays world. (of course the thought has occurred to me - Oliver owners in the total are not average) Long term warranties - full replacement - prorated, or non existent - once the manufacturer is out of business in 5 years. Makes a difference. A luddite I am not, early adopter - sometimes - here the value is very low given the risk and reward. But I understand the appeal. To say one can run the AC off the LI system - is somewhat of a stretch. The weight savings - while substantial - don't make a difference in the overall - to me anyways. I certainly hope my cautiousness is unwarranted. I would love to see a user friendly, low risk, bullet proof system - at a reasonable, cost effective price. I am positive one is in the near future. Perhaps just as my AGM's approach their demise..... Good tidings Happy trails RB
  15. Perhaps it is a RIVA spec - here is a link: https://www.rvia.org/standards-regulations/laws-and-regulations & State/Cite (rvia.org) Or NHTSA. Perhaps it is a Canadian regulation? Call Oliver - I would believe they know. I don't really care to spend time searching. My 16" tandem 3500 lb axle "farm" utility trailer does not have the break-away - however my former enclosed tandem axle did have the BAS. All my boat trailers did not have BAS. Who knows??? As the BAS is a normally open - closed when activated - you would NOT know of a open fuse until it is to late - in most cases. As has been stated - Oliver must be counted on to understand the requirements, and engineer and build accordingly. I would not recommend altering the circuit - for legal reasons alone. Were one to have an issue - your Oliver takes off on it's own. the brakes do not work as designed, the subsequent wreck causes havoc on something or someone - and a subsequent investigation finds the altered circuit. Hmmm - we have seen this move before. I must say Oliver owners are a cut above - most others just use the RV until they don't - BAS - what BAS. Happy Trails all Keep them little doggies behind you Hooked up, tethered, and BAS working.
  16. John has hit on a very good practice - run the unit dry of fuel - in most cases - especially if you will not be running it for a an extended time. I understand pure - unadulterated - unleaded fuel is not available everywhere - but around my neck of the woods - non ethanol high octane fuel is readily available - and that is all I put in my small engine equipment. Never have an issue. The local marine dealer has a jar of 6 month old ethanal unleaded on display - it is a great way to see what happens to your fuel system and carb with the regular pump stuff. Run it off propane - all good. RB
  17. Seems to be a quandary - Cautious folks would like to see the circuit protected - makes sense in most cases. However in this case - the safety factor of the BAS and its intended result overrides the "normal" fusing requirements. In some manner - the wire is a large amperage fuse - yes it will cause a little smoke and perhaps a flame. I would believe it is a requirement. Not fusing is less dangerous than any damage a run-away Oliver would represent. The resetting breaker is an interesting idea. I'll leave mine alone. RB
  18. "Calculate depreciation at 1, 5 and 10 years" says the Huff's . Or just accept it.... An RV - is not an investment for appreciation. But then, in 10 years - Ollie will still be good as new - and that is something to appreciate. Happy Trails
  19. As much as I always enjoy and I appreciate JD's comments - on a wide range of topic's, I must demure here - somewhat. His comments are spot on in relation to people being human and - despite best intentions, given solid training, proven processes, and perfect parts - people are at best 80% reliable. As to robotic assembly - sure - in todays assembly plants - automation is much more a part of the build - but mainly in heavy process driven areas such as the stamping, body fab and finish - in the assembly areas - robotic assembly is much harder to deploy - for many reasons. Automation is not an Oliver strongpoint. and it is expensive - for small quantities.... . People remain at the core of the process. However, my point - Quality - or more to the point - build to design intent - is a culmination of all the inputs - human and "robotic" which can be measured, controlled, and continually improved - beyond "Lexus" standards. Where Oliver has done a decent (excellent?) job - in an industry rife with shoddy manufacturing quality- they have plenty of room for improvement. Customers deserve the quality level they expect - from a premium Company - charging a premium price. It is not unreasonable for an Oliver RV to meet or exceed design intent -and the expectations of the customer. Inspection processes, (the Oliver system) while valuable, are not the panacea to a quality product. From my on site observations - for Oliver to achieve world class quality results - they must move towards a total system approach - one that was once referred to as TPS - (Toyota Production System) to which every manufacturer of note, has adopted in various measures and given their own moniker. GM, Ford, Nissan, VW, Tesla, etc. - - All have their own - you can graph - over time -industry quality improvements with the adoption of these type systems. Sure - AI, computer simulation - and the electronification of the vehicle are also huge factors in the total. (And many build 50+ per hour at a high FTQ) As Oliver has relied on their service departments to correct issues and keep customers singing their praise - the real money is in getting it right the first time. As production schedules push the process - Oliver will be forced to move in that direction - or expect the eventual decline in overall product satisfaction. At times - Oliver customers experience issues - that simply should not have made it to the customer. It happens. non the less - Oliver remains a top quality RV product. To quote Lee Iacocca - If you can find a better car (RV) , buy it," As someone on the forum has previously commented - were they younger - there is a great opportunity to supply the RV industry with quality and reliable appliances and products. As Thor and Dometic continue to buy up all the independent's - the bane of the reputable RV builders will continue to be with the "parts" they have to build with. I apologize for the length and off topic drivel - this post droned on and on. Moderator - please remove if I'm to far out there. RB
  20. AS a boondocker - I would say for me, solar, compost toilet, Truma, 30 lb. Propane, front tray, the rear rack (so I could modify) Perhaps the extra power port would be good, but I am good without it. . From experience - don't purchase the factory shower curtain track - if you are at all handy, you can come up with a very good solution, at a much more sensible cost. If your all thumbs - well - ok . A portable remote Solar - is a good thing to have. The factory LI is not worth the trouble(cost) in my opinion, The AGM's make more sense in the current time frame - I am positive others feel differently. Happy Trails RB
  21. Now a $$$ option ?? Must be more trouble than it is worth. I can see the trend - as Oliver ramps up production, they have completely eliminated custom inquiries, and are standardizing options, while eliminating those that don't support the mission.... Certainly makes sense - Toyota championed the concept about 45 years back. Seems there are plenty of suppliers out there that will do the same...
  22. Oliver - like all manufacturers - is subject to the reliability levels of its suppliers - and unfortunately almost all of them are now owned by the same company. However, Oliver is one the best, if not the best, at covering issues with installed systems, as well as dealing with anything else that may be of issue. If I had a gripe - I would tell it, I don't, 2 + years down the road, I don't have anything to complain about, and have praise for the service end of the Oliver business. Have there been some unsatisfied owners - perhaps - but the vast majority either haven't been on this forum or FB, to tell it, and in their place are plenty of others that will support the Oliver quality story. I don't have an issue recommending Oliver products. Happy trails. RB
  23. Welcome Fritz and Susan. Fellow WW boaters - yeah. RB
  24. Fold - fold what? I thought we were camping? You mean it doesn't just go back into the "clean" bag or compartment. I have much to learn -
  25. To be clear - we are turning our undies inside out before declaring them dirty, no????😲 We have been fortunate to find good Laundromats in our travels. There Is a really good one in Vernal UT. As mentioned - some RV places have decent facilities - and don't mind non-customers using the wash area. If I can find a place to swim - get wet - showers become less needed , have been some really cold baths however!!! And those inviting hot springs - took me two days to get the Sulphur smell gone. RB
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