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New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Updated: 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity 2014 LE2 #50 SC 50" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts) 2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs 2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade 2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Mossey, I only looked at one axle and assumed 🫤 they had two different SN's, never thought two axles would have same serial number. 😐 Will check my axle SN's during the first part of August, making one more modification to the F-150 before towing Ollie during the first part of August. Updated: 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity 2014 LE2 #50 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts) 2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs 2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade 2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Thanks, 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts) 2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity 2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional campers, too. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Thanks, 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from info Chris posted) 2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity 2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" D52 Upgraded axle capacity (Mountainman198's earlier axle label photo 12/22 date) 2023 LE2 # 1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional campers, too. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Can you take a photo of the Dexter label on one of your axles & post or let me know if the SC is 50 or 50.5 and if axle is 3500lb or 5200lb capacity. What year is your Ollie? Check out the Dexter label photo in Mountainman198's first post in this thread. Thanks, -
David, You have me looking at this, too. If you buy one, want to see how your system works!
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New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
OK, good idea. 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from info Chris posted) 2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity 2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity 2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional units, too. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
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New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
I will change it to 50” Thanks, -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
LE2 (Dexter axle spring center) SC & weight capacity specifications, from information gathered, looks like only 2015 & 2016 LE2's axles have SC of 50” (so far) It was not my intention to start a list, but this will keep info organized. 2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" 5200lbs 2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” 5200lb 2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” 3500lb (Gathered from info Chris posted) 2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ 3500lb 2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" 3500lb 2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” 5200lb 2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" 3500lb Please correct me if I have your LE2 info wrong -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Thanks, Looks like some of the 2015 & 2016 LE2s have 3500lb & 5200lb axles with spring centers of 50.0". -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Another thing I wondering about, if the axle SC spec did not change from 2015/2016 to 2017, there could have been enough fabrication tolerance (Oliver welded axle mount) to allow the 50.5" to fit, just a thought for now. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Art, Do you recall if the axles you removed were SC 50.0" or 50.5"? Thanks, -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
John, Yes If you are going to order, I know you will check the specs & cost with Dexter first and what is or is not included. I cannot speak to bearings, new or old style, the Dexter distributor can answer this. Dexter 3" U bolts are 1/2" and off the shelf 5 leaf springs are 1 3/4" wide. Not current on Alcan spring replacement specs. Springs, mounting hardware, EZ flex, handling & shipping are extra. I looked up the Dexter distributor for my zip code on the Dexter website and called them, Redneck Trailer Lincolnton, NC to get the information I posted above. Also posted the build sheet for one of my axles earlier in this thread. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Just spoke to Dexter to learn axle assembly availability for two (2015 & 2016) LE2 Ollies. If I ordered today an exact replacement 5200 pound axle assembly with hubs, brakes (no springs) for our 2015 Oliver #75 LE2, axle serial number 211277561, it would be a special order with lead time of 3 to 3 1/2 weeks for $795 retail. If John (jd1923) ordered an exact replacement 3500 pound axle for his 2016 Oliver #113 LE2, axle serial number 211298115, it would be a special order with lead time of 3 to 3 1/2 weeks for $561 retail. I do not have a copy of John's axle serial number build sheet to know what parts are included. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Going to call Dexter tomorrow to see if the 5200lb is available with our HF (hub face) 68.75" and SC (spring center) 50.0" specs off the shelf or if ordered how long of a lead time is needed. Will see. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Our original Dexter 5200lb axles built in 2014 installed by Oliver have HF (hub face) 68.75" and SC (spring center) 50.0". There is a difference, SC 50.0" older Dexter axle on our LE2 and SC 50.5" newer Dexter 5200lb axles on LE2s, overall difference of 1/2" or 1/4" per side. Our axles were originally for an LE1, but Oliver ran out of 3500lb axles and installed LE1 5200lb axles instead, as mentioned previously. See shop order notes below: -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Art, Understand there has not been any Dexter 5 leaf spring failures, yet. 🙂 Feel fortunate that Oliver installed the 5200lb axles and 5 leaf springs on our 2015 LE2 # 75. We used to support a fleet of industrial mobile machines (before retirement) equipped with hydraulic, pneumatic, electrical, mechanical, and electronic equipment. We supported the field technicians trying to make life easier for them with parts stocked and durability. We standardized hydraulic pumps used as much as possible and air compressor/hydraulic motors so folks in the field and rebuild shop would needed less parts that worked on more machine applications, point is well taken on standardizing parts when possible. 👍 -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
John, Our # 75 LE2 received 5200lb axles with 5 leaf springs (originally for a Legacy Elite) because Oliver ran out of 3500lb axles with 4 leaf springs during manufacture of our Ollie. The 5200lb axles have larger drum brakes, too. We are not the original owners, but learned this information on this forum. Off the shelf Dexter axle/brake/spring parts are available for our Ollie and I have always liked the fact they put higher capacity axles on our Ollie during manufacture. I would be happy to take more bracket photos, measurements and compare with your photos/measurements, if needed. Here's our center hangar: -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
If the axle label is missing, Dexter engraves the axle serial number on each axle. I gave Dexter the serial number off of one of Ollie's axles a few years ago and Dexter emailed this axle spec sheet back to me. With this information a Dexter dealer should be able to supply an axle built to original specifications. At the end of this informative video, Dexter mentions engraving the serial number on each axle in case the label is missing. -
New axles may not fit all older sub-frames
rideandfly replied to Wayfinder's topic in Mechanical & Technical Tips
Wayfinder, Appears hangars on 2015 #75 LE2 are positioned inward similar to your hangars, if I understand you correctly. We have original 5200 pound axles with original Dexter 5 leaf springs, no issues on 5200 axle springs yet, that I'm aware of: Purchased a spare # PR5 five leaf 3000lb spring, 25 1/4" eye to eye & 1 3/4" wide," from Dexter off the shelf that matches the original if I need to replace one along with # SP01-060 U-Bolt kit for 3" axle. Installed bronze bushings after picking up at Dexter: -
When installing bronze bushings in Ollie's spring eye, I coat the outside of the bushing and inside of the spring eye with castor oil to help the soft bronze slide into the spring eye easier, attempting to prevent damage to the soft bronze bushing. The last bronze bushings I installed used a piece of threaded rod from a local Lowes with flat washers and nuts.
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Great information already posted. Like Steve said, when jacking up the trailer sometimes allows the fitting to take grease, sometimes lifting the wheels completely off the ground or partially off the ground allows the fitting to take grease. Try different lifted positions. If you remove the wet pins like Art said to check orientation and the pin's grease port is already at 3 or 9 o'clock is a must, rotating the wet pin 180 degrees if it's already at 3 or 9 o'clock could help, too. Before installing Dexter's soft bronze bushings I always paint the outside diameter with castor oil and the inside of the spring eye, too. This helps allowing the bushing to slide into the spring eye with minimum distortion of the inside diameter of the bronze bushing. You can still have distortion in the inside diameter of the bronze bushing. Even if the wet pin is oriented correctly, you still may have a tight clearance area where the port is located. With time as the bronze wears, you will gain additional clearance, too.
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John, Our 2015 LE2 has a thermal switch in addition to the panel switch. Remember seeing it while working on Ollie, but don't remember the exact location. Our fan will turn on when it's hot, the panel switch will turn it on/off when the thermal switch is closed. It's this style switch: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CVL972NC/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0CVL972NC&pd_rd_w=YtCZT&content-id=amzn1.sym.8c2f9165-8e93-42a1-8313-73d3809141a2&pf_rd_p=8c2f9165-8e93-42a1-8313-73d3809141a2&pf_rd_r=W3TQ15WD17HZ87NXG0PQ&pd_rd_wg=jbirw&pd_rd_r=0704ce1d-0f1c-4a7c-9ad4-84eb24a1bbf4&s=industrial&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw