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The Oliver’s fiberglass body is the majority of the 4900 lb dry weight. I’d conservatively guess the aluminum frame is around 2000 lbs, not including the running gear and hardware. So given their claim of 30% weight savings, it would save about 600 lbs. However, I’d question whether that 30% weight savings is compared to a conventional steel frame. If so, then you're looking at closer to 20% weight savings compared to aluminum, or 400 lbs . . . which is not significant IMO. If the frame costs more to make, and it’s a selling point, then just make sure that corners are not being cut elsewhere. Food for thought! Cheers, Geoff

Hey John, It might be worth checking out my post Bathroom Heat - a more direct approach! It's an easy and significant improvement to bathroom heating. It won't help with your dust issue, but it includes replacement of some of that problematic flexible duct. It would be near impossible to replace that long duct going to the bathroom, but I think with a filter installed the dust problem should go away. Since I've done that mod, I've added more semi rigid duct from the furnace to the kitchen. It's tucked up out of the way into the space above the return air register as seen in the photo, and it eliminated some restrictions and puncture hazards. I also cut a vent hole in the wall on the left side of the toilet through to under the dinette seat as others have recommended. It helped a lot! Afterall, bathroom heat is a nice luxury, and it helps with the wet bath humidity too! Cheers, Geoff

It was June 26, 2021 when we pulled into a rest stop and sighted our very first Oliver. As fate would have it, we had just been talking about selling our 5th wheel and down sizing to a smaller trailer. We hung around for awhile, but the owners didn’t show up. So we took a photo to remember the Oliver name, and we looked it up as soon as we got home. I came across that photo recently and thought it would be fun to post it and see if anyone recognizes their trailer. It was taken at the tunnel rest stop on Hwy 199 between Crescent City and Grants Pass. When zoomed in, you can just make out a Florida License plate beginning with Z57. The second photo was taken September 9. 2021, just over two months later when we toured the factory and placed an order. Happy days... except for those ridiculous covid masks! Do you have a first sighting story? Love to hear it. Cheers, Geoff and Tanya

This is interesting! I'm assuming that the "tricky" part is installing the larger 12 volt wire, and he seems to imply that it could be done?? It would be nice if he could expand on that because myself and others have previously dismissed this as an option. Perhaps there is a way, and I'd be very exited to hear about it. But a word of caution for your installer. Unless there is some sort of adaquate void or channel that the existing 120 volt wire is routed through, then be very wary about using the existing wire to pull in a new wire, or using a fish tape. It's well known that wires can get hopelessly jammed and stuck when doing this in any location, and the Oliver is particularly challenging because of the tight space between the roof and ceiling with curves and pinch points. Make sure your installer has plenty of Wire Pulling Lubricant and experience in this regard, because there is some risk that the 120 volt circuit could get fouled up without being able to get the 12 volt cables in. I'm looking forward to any news on this, and good luck! Geoff

Your 7-pin pigtail has to terminate somewhere in the trailer. Mine is a 2022 and they should be somewhat similar. Trace the pigtail to where it enters the trailer through the penetration, likely behind and under the propane tanks. From inside, it probably enters under the bathroom sink and from there you can trace to where it terminates. It has to be in an accessible location. Mine is in a standard junction box under and to the right of the bathroom sink, on the floor. It is somewhat obscured from vision by the heating duct.

Based on the breakaway switch working okay, and the F-350 working with the Airstream, I'd take a close look at the Oliver's 7-pin plug. It could have a loose connection within the molded rubber plug. It could be a hard thing to test, but your best bet would be a continuity test between the plugs female pins and the other end where it terminates... while twisting and pulling it to be sure the circuit break is not intermittent. You might just replace it if there is any doubt. My 7-pin cord terminates in a electric 4" x 4" junction box under the sink, could be loose or shorted in there too. I didn't read the entire post, so apologies if you have already done this. Good luck, Geoff

I've used epoxy before, but it's rather permanent and overkill IMHO. I've had great results from ACE construction glue. There are plenty of inexpensive and high strength construction glues that would be more than adequate. These come in caulking tubes that require a cheap caulking gun for super easy application. It's tacky enough that clamping is not required, just push it firmly in place and prop the board up so it doesn't slip. It appears they originally used this type of construction glue from your photo. I've also had original glue failures, and I believe it was caused from glue application on dusty surfaces, and it looks like yours was barely touching both surfaces. There is a surprising amount of dust on the interior surfaces, so be sure to clean surfaces before using glue. Also, I think you could just add more glue to that surface and save yourself a lot of scraping of the old glue. Cheers! Geoff

I added a top and bottom vent for the closet, but it's hard to know or measure how much airflow has improved. But you can be certain that it has improved over having no vent at all. At the same time I added a vent in the bathroom that allows the pressure from the heater duct to flow out under the dinette seat, then through the basement back to the furnace intake. This was a significant improvement for bathroom heat. You can feel air flow through the new vent, and it actually holds a tissue in place from the back pressure. FYI, I used a hole saw and taped the surface to prevent chip out. It worked great! Cheers! Geoff

Just before leaving on our current trip, I covertly made a new cherry table and installed it to the surprise of wifey. She had wanted to keep the Oliver’s stock modern look, which is understandable considering that the house is already full of custom wood pieces. But after using it on this trip, we both absolutely love it! If I were to choose to have only one Oliver modification, it would be the enlarged table! The original table was small to fit between the seats for a third bed, and it is barley big enough to fit much more than a two piece place setting. The new table is 28” x 37” (about 10” longer and 5” wider) and it makes a huge difference to have the extra tabletop space. We can now fit the computer and our place settings. I realize not everyone has access to a wood shop to build such a table, but there are consignment woodworkers just about everywhere that could easily do it. As wood working projects go, it doesn’t get much simpler to joint and glue planks together and sand them flat. Many hardwood lumber shops even have wide belt sanders available to flatten tabletops. You could even have a lumber shop cut a nice piece of hardwood plywood, round the corners with a saber saw, and dress the edges with real wood self-stick or iron-on edge bands, just like they do for kitchen cabinets. I recommend experimenting with a cardboard template to determine the optimum size to fit your body types. I also remember a guy who advertises wooden accessories on this forum who might sell larger tables. Anyway, it’s a worthy project or expense to think about! Cheers, Geoff

I wouldn’t reset your TV. Starlink is amazing fast with clear sky most of the time. The router should help when you move the dishy to find a hole in the trees. The times you don't have clear sky will be few and you will just have to accept no service or the buffering blips.

This has been our experience from several years of using Starlink in the forests of the Pacific Northwest. We often had to move the Starlink Mini the whole 50' length of the cord to find a clear sky hole, but then the WiFi signal was so weak we couldn't stream. Now with the new Mini Router, a bargain at $40, the WiFi signal is much better and there is a big improvement in speed and streaming. The USB-C power supply has been working great for the router too!

Went through the border again today, after about two hours waiting in line with only two of the many gates open. I handed the US border agent our passports and cell phone with the CDC letter. He snapped back that the didn't want the letter. Gees, a little grumpy . . . go figure?

This is the hatch I'm referring to. Instead of mounting the switch next to it, mount it right on the hatch cover. It will make the drilling and wiring a breeze!

We filled out the on-line form that @John Dorrer kindly linked. It was just some simple questions. We then received an Email reply from the Center for Disease Control (CDC Dog Import). We entered and exited Canada for a 3 hour visit to White Rock, BC yesterday, and will be going again today! When entering Canada, we declared our dog and they did't ask for anything. When returning to the US, I gave them our passports and my cell phone with the CDC Dog Import email. They looked at the email and said thank you, and let us pass. Thanks again to John!

You didn’t provide much detail on the symptoms or what all has been checked, but I looked at the manual that @Galway Girl provided and there are very thorough trouble shooting guides, test procedures, fault codes, and schematics. Even three internal fuses. I think the big RV outfits are more likely to recommend replacement than repair. So, not knowing what your comfort level is for electrical troubleshooting, I think you could find some old school appliance repair guy in your area that could probably figure out what’s wrong and fix it. You already replaced the boards, so it's likely some other electrical component. Although parts are scarce in the US, they seem to be more abundant in Australia. Also, besides the boards that you already replaced, many electrical parts are off-the-shelf and can be substituted. For $4800, I’d be using the manual and a multimeter to run all the tests, or at least paying someone else to do it. Wish you luck! Geoff

Have you considered mounting it on the hatch cover? At least if you mess up, then you can just get a new one. Cheers, Geoff

The statements jive okay. This question was originally about the virtual load setting, and it's morphed into why not more solar input. The solar charger data looks good for the 36 watt input. However, the question of why the input is not higher is a whole different discussion. There could be a number of reasons why: I'd first look at the "History" feature of the App, it will show the solar input over several days. If it was charging at more watts in periods of more sun, then that will give you a better idea if it's sun related. Cleaning the panels will always help, but not that significantly... unless they are really really dirty. Next I'd review the Solar Charger settings, particularly the battery type, as they can also impact the output. Also, whatever device you are reading the 40% SOC from, I'd review those setting too. You might actually be at a higher percent charge and the charger is ramping down the output. There are probably some charging curves out there to see how it ramps down, and that can provide clues. Let us know what you find and we will see where it leads to from there! Cheers! Geoff

Thank you! We will be crossing into Canada in a few days. We have her vax papers but didn’t know about the form. Cheers! Geoff

JD, I was looking at these units too. The new ones can have both AC and DC connected at the same time. It automatically prioritizes to AC when the AC is energized, regardless if connected to DC. I personally wouldn't connect it to the DC to DC charger, unless it was a really convenient place to connect the circuit. I'd just run a dedicated fused wire from the battery via a relay that is mounted close to the battery. From there it would be easy to trigger the relay from an ignition-on circuit or a manual switch inside the cab. If your truck has an up-fitter option, you can program the switch to work only with ignition on. Cheers! Geoff

Hi George, The Virtual load is only used if you don't have an actual load on the solar charger. However you have an actual load, which is the battery. So the State is correctly set to OFF. All your other data looks good, you are happily charging away in bulk charge. Cheers! Geoff

Yes it seems your right, the charging is desired, but it's not explicitly defined in the regs. Years ago when I used to tow a sizable boat into Canada, I was almost denied entry one year because they had just outlawed Surge brakes. I had to replace the trailers surge coupler head with an Electric pump/hydraulic unit including a breakaway switch, battery, TV charging, and an electric brake controller. It was a unique setup because you don't want to dip all electric brakes into water when launching a boat. That expierience was burned permanently into my pocketbook and memory! Cheers! Geoff

@Jim and Frances, you are right, the charge line is from TV alternator (Pin-7 of the 7-Pin harness). I'm not sure where that B4 breaker is, it looks like it must be under the bathroom sink or in the propane house. B5 would be under the bed on the street side. As JD noted, Pin-7 is not connected for lithium batteries. This is because lithiums have specific charging parameters that are different from lead acid/AGM batteries, and they could be damaged by normal alternator charging. So if you have factory lithiums, then you probably don't have the B4 and B5 breakers. If your trailer came equipped with lead acid/AGM batteries, then Pin-7 is probably connected through the B4 an B5 breakers. It’s a comparatively low amperage charge and not very efficient to charge the house batteries. But any trailer with electric brakes must have a battery and Pin-7 charging, or equivalent, for the “breakaway brake switch,” which I believe is a DOT requirement. Two breakers are definitely needed because there is current potential at both ends of the this circuit, from the battery on one end, and from the alternator on the other end. The breakers are polarized, meaning they only protect the wire on the “load” side of the breaker, and the “line” side is connected to the current potential. So if you had only one breaker, it can only protect the circuit from the battery on one end, or the alternator on the other end. . . but not both. Now if a fuse was used, only one would be needed because they are not polarized. But I'm not saying a fuse would be better because I fully believe Oliver observes sound electrical engineering practices and there is good reason to use breakers in this configuration and others. Hope that helps explain things. Cheers, Geoff

I don’t hear much about a 2500 gas powered 6.4 HEMI! We downsized from a RAM 2500 diesel to a RAM 2500 HEMI because of personal gripes with the diesel. In doing so we sacrificed a few MPGs, great low end torque, and the diesels excellent engine breaking. But the HEMI still has excess power, fantastic engine breaking, and it has 600-700 pounds more payload capacity than the diesel. This is due to the difference in the weight of the engines. Our overall mpg average is 11.5, and most of that is towing on winding mountain roads. We get up to 15 on flat highway. For the few extra mpg’s gained with the diesel, I don’t think we could ever reach fuel savings parity considering the 10k extra price tag for a diesel. For what’s it’s worth! Cheers! Geoff

Gary, I think I understand where your difficulty is coming from. My instructions are for the Orion 30 amp charger, which pre-dated the newly designed Orion 50 amp charger that’s different in several ways. I believe you are installing the newer 50 amp Orion. The first major difference is that the 50 amp charger is non-isolated, which means that the negative input and output use a common terminal. The 30 amp isolated Orion has separate terminals for the neg input & outputs. For the 30 amp, both the pos & neg wires from the TV go to the Orion’s respective pos & neg Inputs. The Orion’s neg output goes to the Oliver’s ground bus, and the pos output goes to the battery circuit main breaker via the new 60 amp fuse. With the 50 amp charger, you can run the TV neg to the ground bus, and a jumper from the ground bus to the Orion common neg. The pos connection is the same as the 30 amp. The second big difference is that the improved 50 amp charger is more efficient and it doesn’t have the significant overheating problems like the 30 amp Orion does. The 50 amp doesn’t need cooling fans, although they still have some benefit. If you choose to have fans, they are simply wired to the Orion’s pos & neg output so that their only energized when the Orion is charging. The thermo switch and 2 amp fuse are wired “in-line” with the fans pos wire. Let me know if a wiring sketch will be helpful. Hope that answers all your questions. Cheers! Geoff

You can have Amazon packages sent General Delivery to a nearby Post office. Amazon has these for the Dometic stovetop for about $12: https://a.co/d/exuedxY Geoff