Chukarhunter Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Steve and Lornie LE II Standard Hull #657 2004 4Runner 4.7 L V8 Oregon
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 19, 2021 Moderators Posted March 19, 2021 We own two other power dollies that we've used for our smaller Elite, the ez tug, and a parkit 360. The parkit 360 is more like this, but has its own 12v battery. I can't imagine trying to steer the trailer, and run a drill to operate a dolly at the same time, honestly. Not crazy about the parkit 360, as attaching to the trailer properly is tricky, and it's very awkward, and doesn't seem steady in turns. Works ok on flat and smooth, very slowly. Just two little wheels under the tongue make me nervous every time we use it. But, it does make it possible to get the trailer into our narrow sideyard. I like the attachment of the eztug better. But, it's not rated for the weight if even our Elite. It's fine for moving the boat. I couldn't recommend either one, honestly. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Moderator+ ScubaRx Posted March 19, 2021 Moderator+ Posted March 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Chukarhunter said: Please explain the circumstances of where you want to move the trailer to. Uphill, downhill, around a curve, backing up, moving forward? Steve, Tali and our dog Rocky plus our beloved dogs Storm, Lucy, Maggie and Reacher (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge) 2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #026 | 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #050 | 2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD SRW Diesel 4x4
Chukarhunter Posted March 19, 2021 Author Posted March 19, 2021 In my current situation, I would only use it on the level. The only place I can store the LEII is in the backyard off of a one-way alley. I have to back the LEII about 200' down a very narrow alley and then cut it through a slightly angled 14' gate and then curve it to achieve a 90 degree turn before I hit the neighbors side-yard fence. Making the 90 degree turn without my tow vehicle hitting the side of the gate opening is a challenge. I am reasonably proficient but it would be much easier if I could just back it in through the gate, unhook, and then move it into the final parking spot using the dolly. The working surface is gravel and I am concerned the small wheels could be a problem. Steve and Lornie LE II Standard Hull #657 2004 4Runner 4.7 L V8 Oregon
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 19, 2021 Moderators Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) They won't work on gravel. Or grass. Imo. We used to put plywood down on grass. Even then, it was very iffy. You might be better off with a front hitch on your TV. Edited March 19, 2021 by SeaDawg 2 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Jim_Oker Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) I've (somewhat academically) wondered whether in a scenario like this (flat ground but gravel etc. and a tight turn or two) a smaller vehicle not rated for the trailer weight, but shorter and with tighter turning radius, would be an option for the final stretch to the parking spot. Assuming one owned such a vehicle in addition to their TV. It would not seem to pose anything close to the stresses to either drive train or suspension that must be accounted for in setting these ratings... Edited March 19, 2021 by Jim_Oker 1 Jim and Yanna, Woodinville WA 2004 Ford E250 camper conversion Oliver Elite II hull #709
Chukarhunter Posted March 19, 2021 Author Posted March 19, 2021 Thanks for sharing your experience on with using a trailer dolly on gravel. I think I will pass this one by. I will definitely look to putting on a front hitch when I upgrade my current undersized TV. My current backing maneuver would probably be impossible to do if my TV was a full size pickup. Steve and Lornie LE II Standard Hull #657 2004 4Runner 4.7 L V8 Oregon
Jim_Oker Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SeaDawg said: You might be better off with a front hitch on your TV. As a newbie to towing I'm intrigued by this option. Now I'm going to have to ponder the mechanics of this and maybe even go look for a video or two 🙂 I was relieved when I confirmed that I could make the required backing maneuvers with our TV and trailer to get into our parking w/o making a mess of the neighbor's lawn or any such shenanigans. Edited March 19, 2021 by Jim_Oker 1 Jim and Yanna, Woodinville WA 2004 Ford E250 camper conversion Oliver Elite II hull #709
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 19, 2021 Moderators Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chukarhunter said: My current backing maneuver would probably be impossible to do if my TV was a full size pickup Totally get that. When we back the trailers into our drive, and close to the side gate, we usually use my 2005 stepside, regular cab silverado. The 4x4 ram is great in many situations, but the maneuverability of my smaller truck, in tight spaces, is so much better. The older truck is much more nimble, smaller, and tighter turn radius. Our parking space is ridiculously tight. Gates barely wide enough for the trailer. So, final entry is get close, drop the trailer, add the abhorrent 360, and go from there. But the 360 doesn't have the power to go (slightly) uphill on our paved drive, for long. So, a truck has to get it close to the flat part of the drive. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 19, 2021 Moderators Posted March 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jim_Oker said: As a newbie to towing I'm intrigued by this option. Now I'm going to have to ponder the mechanics of this and maybe even go look for a video or two 🙂 I was relieved when I confirmed that I could make the required backing maneuvers with our TV and trailer to get into our parking w/o making a mess of the neighbor's lawn or any such shenanigans. And, I'm proud of you for managing that! As is, I'm sure, your neighbor. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Jim_Oker Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, SeaDawg said: As is, I'm sure, your neighbor. Yeah probably though he's a sport and his daughter lives next door to him and they often park their big 4x4 on the patch of lawn across out narrow dirt lane from our driveway area. And the psycho delivery truck drivers (there are mostly fine drivers but some clearly don't know how to drive those Prime vans and such...) often leave muddy tracks through that bit of lawn too. But still, it's nice not to have to join the party. 1 Jim and Yanna, Woodinville WA 2004 Ford E250 camper conversion Oliver Elite II hull #709
Moderator+ ScubaRx Posted March 19, 2021 Moderator+ Posted March 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Chukarhunter said: ... My father used to raise Chukar's. 2 Steve, Tali and our dog Rocky plus our beloved dogs Storm, Lucy, Maggie and Reacher (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge) 2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #026 | 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #050 | 2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD SRW Diesel 4x4
John E Davies Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) If you get a front hitch that you plan to use just for trailer moving, have a custom one fabricated that is offset to the right by about 18”. That way you can see straight down the side of the Ollie when going straight or to the drivers left. Going right still would need a good camera or at least a human spotter. Here is a UK video showing this setup, obviously you would want the ball mount on the other side of the vehicle..... Watling Front Tow Bar Demonstration (UK) If you also wanted to use the receiver for a bike rack of cargo tray, you could have a second central opening installed. Depending on what TV you have, an “off the shelf” front hitch could be modified by adding the extra offset hole. I am unaware of any USA made units that come that way. Also, adding about 650 pounds of tongue weight to the front suspension of a light duty truck is going to be an issue, even for very short distances. A HD truck would be no problem. John Davies Spokane WA Edited March 19, 2021 by John E Davies SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT.
JRK Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 I need a dolly for my E1, on a slight concrete hill to get into my side yard, which is also concrete. It is a bit angled, slightly, and I need to manevuer around my roof overhand - may just cut off the overhang. Is there one that will work, and might be recommended? 2022 Ford F150 4x4 2021 Elite I #758
Mattnan Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 Not sure if a tractor might work for you? I know Mainiac on this forum occasionally uses his John Deere with a hitch set up. A lot of boat yards also use a tractor with a ball on a front fork. You might be able to rent a tractor. I know they are easy to rent up here! Good luck!!!
LongStride Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 We will be picking up our Elite l the first week of June and I am preparing a home for it. We live in the city, and like Chukarhunter I need to access my yard through a narrow alley. I need to get the Ollie up a 4% slope of grass to the concrete pad where it will live. I have done extensive research on powered dollies. I even looked into aircraft tugs. I am about to pull the trigger on a Trax TX6000 Power Dolly. The manufacturer says that it behaves very well with Bulldog hitches, unlike some of the other dollies. I actually saw someone successfully using it with a Bulldog in a video, evidence that the factory rep was not just "telling me what I wanted to hear". There are several vids out there. Looks like it does well on level grass. Real well on concrete. Watched a guy push his big ole silver SOB up a moderately sloped driveway with no issues at all. The TX6000 also has an integrated brake system with a 7-pin connector so it will activate your trailer brakes when you stop it. This is a important feature to anyone who is dealing with an incline. What a horror it would be to have your Ollie get away from you and smash into something. https://traxdolly.com/product/tx6000-power-dolly/ The Parkit360 was in the running until I contacted the manufacturer and they told me that their unit does not play well with the Bulldog hitch. For the grass incline up to the concrete pad (about 10'-0") I am going to use permeable pavers to provide increased traction for the power dolly. Not sure if I will use gravel or grass with the permeable pavers. I am thinking that grass would look nicer but may be harder to maintain. Sure, I could mow over it, but when the power dolly tires dig through it to get traction on the pavers it will leave unsightly tracks. IDK... gravel, wood chips, I'll figure out something. https://www.truegridpaver.com/ I found one other solution. It is the one that I really wanted, but they are currently out of production. Check out the Trax X2. It is a 350 lb. radio controlled tank with a hitch connection. You could take the hitch post off and mount a chair on it. What fun! The manufacturer was not forthcoming about why they quit making them. I suspect that they only made a few and discovered that they were cost prohibitive for most. Too much investment up front to have them sitting in stock. https://youtu.be/urDkzQKwAhE 1 Mike and Yasuko 2021 Legacy Elite Hull #820
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 21, 2021 Moderators Posted March 21, 2021 Longstreet, that trax dolly looks like a great, stable solution. And much more power than the parkit 360. Love that it actuates the brakes. We use chocks every time we stop to make adjustments. And I would second the opinion that the parkit 360 doesn't like the bulldog hitch. The third wheel should give it more stability. We also used turf blocks in the sideyard. Ours are filled with sand and shell. I'll look forward to your comments after you get it. FWIW, when we first got our Elite, we pushed it over plywood on grass, with a manual dolly and three people. We moved the plywood half sheets as we pushed it back. It's possible, but not fun. And that was level ground, at our old house. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
T-Oliver Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 Parkit360 doesn't recomend using the ball in a bulldog hitch (I called 1-855-996-9391) Personally, my first experience using the Park it 360 7K with ball was not fun. Remove the foot from the front jack and lower the leg into the socket. This is a much nicer experience. to eliminate the need to block up the tongue while removing the foot I am going to purchase the over priced attachment that mounts a tube on the tongue.
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 21, 2021 Moderators Posted March 21, 2021 @T-Oliver that's the first I've looked at the parkit 360 site in years. They've changed a lot of things. The telescoping leg looks like a much safer way to attach the trailer. That was not available years ago. Much more like the eztug attachment point. Thanks for the info. Btw, I see they now offer a 7 pin connector to use the trailer brakes with some models. That's extremely useful. Does yours have the 7pin? 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 21, 2021 Moderators Posted March 21, 2021 @LongStride, I wonder if they sold out to trailer valet? 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
LongStride Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 I looked at the RVR9 as well. The Trax X2 looked much more stable to me. Wider base and bigger tracks. I had never considered that they might have sold their design to Trailer Valet, but I did ponder the possibility of a patent quarrel. 1 Mike and Yasuko 2021 Legacy Elite Hull #820
T-Oliver Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Parkit360 doesn't recomend using the ball in a bulldog hitch (I called 1-855-996-9391) Personally, my first experience using the Park it 360 7K with ball was not fun. Remove the foot from the front jack and lower the leg into the socket. This is a much nicer experience. to eliminate the need to block up the tongue while removing the foot I am going to purchase the over priced attachment that mounts a tube on the tongue. Edited March 22, 2021 by T-Oliver duplicate
T-Oliver Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 yes it has the brake plug, when you stop moving it applies the brakes hard 1
JRK Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 Just received the TX6000 trailer dolly. It seems to be what it says it is. Worked well for the first time. I bought the batteries through walmart - free shipping and $45 each less. Need 3. Standard power chair batteries - UB12350. Couldn't find the dolly anyplace else that had free shipping - $220 for shipping, but it is heavy. Fun toy. I need to go places, and come home, so I can play with it. I have an all concrete driveway/pad that has an 8' wide gate, but the first 20' is on a slight slope. The eave overhangs enough to rub the awning if not angled just right when at the same time the left rear corner finds the edge of the gate. With a block fence on the opposite side of the driveway, it is close to impossible to get the right angle with the truck, without rubbing against the wall. This dolly made it easy, although there is a bit of manhandling it to get it to turn. No power steering. . Handled it well. No bumps or humps to get over. 2022 Ford F150 4x4 2021 Elite I #758
Landrover Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 12:16 PM, Chukarhunter said: Where to begin. The ball doesn’t lock under the coupler well enough, which makes the unit flop around making it un stable. The grab handle flips down when your trying to turn putting on the brake. The wheels require air like a wheel barrel they always go flat the tires are so small difficult to fill and they require 70 psi for a small tire. Just forget the hand crank unless you have hours of time. Slow and exhausting You need at least a18v elec drill to get it to move hold on tight or it will give you a wrist snap. Also the whole unit is low to the ground you have to bend over while trying to maneuver, very uncomfortable hard on the back. So if your still not convinced, I have one for sale cheep, used once. 1 Grant 2022 GMC Denali 2500 HD 2019 Elite 11😎
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