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I saw in a video a manual wrench for operating a leveling leg when the electric motor won't work.  We have a 2015 Elite II #89 that we recently purchased used and I have not found that wrench.  Is there a special place that it is stored?  Is there another type of device that folks have found to use to replace that wrench, or do I need to order one from Oliver?

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As far as I know - there isn't a specific place where Oliver has designed clips, or other device to store this "manual wrench".  I store mine in the area under the street side bed, but, I know that other owners store it in a variety of places.

However, do not fret.  Look at the top of either of your rear jacks.  On the top of these jacks you should see a square metal "stud".  I don't remember the dimensions of that stud but all you need to operate it is a wrench or socket that can be used to turn it.

Be forewarned that I believe the gear ratio is something like 50 to 1.  This means that if you have to use this manual method of raising and/or lowering your jacks, you will be turning that square stud a bunch of times.

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1 hour ago, topgun2 said:

Be forewarned that I believe the gear ratio is something like 50 to 1.  This means that if you have to use this manual method of raising and/or lowering your jacks, you will be turning that square stud a bunch of times.

Bill

Also, a standard 6 point socket will not work. You will need either a 8 point or a 12 point socket of the correct size. You can use your impact driver rather than doing it manually.

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3 hours ago, topgun2 said:

 

Be forewarned that I believe the gear ratio is something like 50 to 1.  This means that if you have to use this manual method of raising and/or lowering your jacks, you will be turning that square stud a bunch of times.

Bill

It's a very slow operation indeed. Another good reason to use planks or blocks under the jacks. If you ever have a switch or motor failure (as I have over the 15 years), it's really nice to know you've shortened the throw. Even so, nice to know it's possible. I'm a 5' 4" woman, and I can still get the jack up in a breakdown. 

Ours is stored in plastic pocket, in  a small dinette seat storage area, which newer trailers won't have. Check there, too. Unfortunately for you,  everyone moves everything around. 

Steve's suggestion is a good one, as well. Never bothered, as we've only had to use the wrench a few times since 2008.

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5 hours ago, R Dustin said:

Is there another type of device that folks have found to use to replace that wrench, or do I need to order one from Oliver?

I’m sure you could check with Oliver for a replacement.  Mine is not a heavy duty tool, can’t be too expensive.  I have had to use mine when a back jack popped off the gears when in the up position.  Took a few turns to get things back on track.  Mike

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1 hour ago, SeaDawg said:

Be forewarned that I believe the gear ratio is something like 50 to 1.  This means that if you have to use this manual method of raising and/or lowering your jacks, you will be turning that square stud a bunch of times.

50: 1 took forever to get the job done.  Only did it once.    Even with JD's knuckle saver idea, it still took forever.

Then I came up with a much better solution:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 12/2/2023 at 7:38 AM, Rivernerd said:

With what size 1/2" 12-point socket?image.png.4d4239bc74e394a1fa7d3ac99df4ba3c.png

DO NOT USE THIS TOOL!!!!  *****It will DESTROY the gearbox; with 100% certainty, it will eventually weaken and maybe shatter the teeth! ****** 

It is intended to loosen tight or frozen hardware like lug nuts. It uses an internal "hammer" to smash the part free. BRRRRRRPPPPPPP! I carry one with my screw gun/ driver for the truck lugs, but I wouldn't ever consider using it to turn a screw (or gear!) of any kind.

Video - Inside an Impact Driver in Slow Motion

Use a LIGHT duty screwgun

 

 

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Use one of these 1/4" HEX to 3/8" drive socket adapters.

 

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Add a 3/8" dr to 1/4" dr adapter if needed for the 4 point or 8-point socket you have. Don't use a hex or 12 point socket, it will damage the shaft!  (I don't know the size for this application) Your tool will then have several speeds and a reverse setting too, and it probably won't harm the gearbox. But it might, so use it with great care and with close attention.

The problem with hooking any power tool up in a situation like this is that you completely lose any "feel" for what is happening. So IF  the gearbox starts to bind up because of an internal fault, you might never notice until YOU break something inside. Always set the tool's clutch to a half way point Screw setting so that it will slip if binding occurs, don't leave it on the Drill/ Lock setting... Those jack gears are very fragile, the reason they can lift your Ollie clear off the ground is due to the high speed motor and very low gearing, not from any inherent strength. The jacks are made from cheap, low grade steel on a Chinese mass production line, and they are assembled with no care whatsoever, but with very great haste 😉

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Possible source for a square (aka 4-point) socket, Grainger carries these in various standard SAE sizes, I do NOT know what size the jack driveshaft is,  probably metric. If somebody figures this out, please start a new thread about it. My gut feeling is that you won't find 4-point sockets on Amazon... 😉

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One from this set might possibly fit: .... Stanley Proto J52109 3/8-inch Drive 5-piece Socket Set- 8-point ... you could return the set at no charge if you don't like it.

I researched this years ago, before I eventually decided that the cost effective solution was to just to lengthen the handle shaft.

John Davies

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On 12/1/2023 at 12:18 PM, R Dustin said:

I saw in a video a manual wrench for operating a leveling leg when the electric motor won't work.  We have a 2015 Elite II #89 that we recently purchased used and I have not found that wrench.  Is there a special place that it is stored?  Is there another type of device that folks have found to use to replace that wrench, or do I need to order one from Oliver?

I am sure you did not I will ask anyway:

Did you check with the previous owner?

Did you look under in the cabinet under and in front of the vanity?

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