ScottyGS

Would be nice if Oliver starts installing Truma Vario heat along with their a/c.

Since moving to NC I have liked the idea for states to have only a rear license plate. Until now. Very glad you survived this ordeal and wish you the best. And, like many others ... I hope they find this *******. He needs to pay.

Install the trimlok gutters. That will help a bit.

My God! How many Lizards would it take to insulate an Oliver LE2?

Interesting topic... having to depart in a hurry. There could be a variety of reasons for that. Yet another reason to keep a tidy campsite. Division of Labor between spouses would be a plus. Donna usually handles everything inside while I take care of the outside. And... no matter how tempting to save an extra minute or two... Do a thorough walk around before pulling out. Could save a lot of heartache. Thanks for sharing the story.

Hey Moose. We stayed in C section at past rally's. This will be our first time in B section. B-07 so I am sure we will have a chance to talk. B section is a bit more shaded and has pull through sites, so it should be pretty easy to get into and set up. Plus you will be closer to the Pavillion, Vendor area, and Gathering place. Bikes would be a plus but not killer if you don't have them. Dog Park?? I think that might be new... and we'll probably see you there too. Good Luck and see you in May.

I was just thinking that $4 per gallon seems to be the new norm these days. Plus, $4 seems to be the price that starts to hit the RV market. What happens if it continues to go up. If China invades Taiwan? $4 a gallon may start to look like the good old days. Sorry to be a buzzkill.

I think you mean the Way Way Back Machine. Tell Mr. Peabody I said Hello.

That's what I understand to be the "correct" way to jack up the trailer. The problem on a pre-2017-18 trailer is that the subframe is very short. Trying to find a place to get a jack in there amongst the axles etc. is not an easy thing to do. I have used the onboard stabilizers as well and not had any problems. It's my understanding that this issue ..... along with some folks damaging the axle by jacking under them... was what drove Oliver to the decision to extend the steel subframe.

Yes.. that's eggsactly what I meant to say.

Someone should be making a list of these

Rumor has it that the new Elite will be the same height as the Elite 2. Shorter but the same height.

Try the coconut coir bricks when you get a chance. We’ve found them better than the peat moss. Easier to travel with too. Good Luck.

Get a good nights sleep on Sunday. You’ll want to be well rested. And Congrats

Like loosing an engine on a twin... gets your attention real fast.

Will the trailer be at your home? Easy to monitor? Assuming you have the Platinum Package (630 ah) ... I would reduce the charge to 13.2 volts per the manual and then turn the batteries off using the BMS power button. Get one of those weather stations with a remote temperature sensor to monitor the temp inside the battery box. If it looks like it's going to get above 86 degrees you may want to take them out and put them inside where the temps will stay in that 14 - 86 degree range. Good Luck and please let us know how things are working out. Scotty PS.. just realized you have the PRO package... I checked the Lithionics manual for those batteries and the storage requirements are the same as for the larger batteries. I would also download the manual and read it thoroughly.

Only those with two awnings... and both have to be extended.

Here is a bmp file with the 2016 config on it. I believe OP has this already but for any other 2016 owners. Guide-Sheet.bmp

He's got a 2016 and has the picture describing the configuration. Not sure if the video show the 2016 version or just mentions it.

I made Donna get out and look. But that's a good plan if travelling solo. People behind you may get pissed off but would be more inconvenienced if you jammed your rig in the tunnel.

I have just replaced the 4 AGM batteries on our 2016 and have been happy with the performance they have given us over the past 5 years. However.... We are planning on increasing the time spent camping going forward over the next 5 years. So I have been researching Lithium Batteries for some time now. The point I took from the video you posted is... The choice to go AGM vs. Lithium's depends on the amount of load you plan to put on the off grid electrical system. So... in making the choice I would advise that people consider how they want to use their camper and what the load will be. There are people... (just saw one last week) who order LE2's with NO solar. That would not be my choice but if you plan to camp mostly at RV parks... it could make sense. We are looking at MORE off grid camping with A/C use when we "need "it and all the other demands that type of camping puts on the system. For us it's Lithium by a wide margin. As to the system being overpriced. I think you have to consider the whole price of the camper. I have been a defender of the 2023 price increase that Oliver came out with because I truly do NOT believe they are "profiteering". Inflation and raw materials cost have skyrocketed. And, if you look at the price increase history of our trailers, it's clear to see that Oliver has not given us linear increases. (that is a steady percentage or dollar increase every year) There are peaks and valleys with the two biggest peaks being 2016 and 2023. I have worked for companies with a maximum profit strategy and the price actions that go with it and that's not what I see from Oliver. As to doing the upgrade work yourself.... there are those on the forum that have done it. Not me thank you. But for those with the tech skills and desire to tinker it's a way to save some money. I would pay to have it done for me. Anyway.... hope this has helped. Best of Luck no matter what you decide. Scotty

Maybe that is one of the factors that contribute to stable sway free towing manners.

Jim! I need the internet because I refuse to think ahead! Only joking... I would rather have and choose not to use connectivity ... but also realize that not everyone can do that. Those dopamine hits keep us coming back to the magic rectangle. And... that will change how things go when we do get away from it all. I wonder what other new tech will cause things to change ... ? for the better or worse. Certainly with battery tech improving.. more folks will feel comfortable camping "off grid". I would hate to see BLM land become like the most crowded RV parks. But I bet we'll see more impact. Hopefully not too much, too soon. Happy Camping! Scotty

I've been doing some advance planning for a 2023 trip to this area. One resource I have found very helpful is Sean and Kristy's youtube channel "The Long Long Honeymoon". I would search on that and the names of some of the NP's you plan to hit. Not sure they will have winter specific tips but they do pack in a lot of good info. And you get to see some of the campsites you may be planning on staying at. Good Luck, Scotty

I agree that it's nice to be out in the world and not connected. Gives you a chance to truly relax. But I also realize how easy the internet makes research and planning during a long trip. Also, last summer we were in the Black Hills and had to leave early due to a family emergency back home. It was dicey getting information as to what was going on. Glad for the cellular boost because without it we would not have had communication with home. It will be interesting to see what Starlink does going forward. I think many of us would invest in the hardware if it meant that we could take our internet connection on the road. Also makes me wonder if having hardware installed in the trailer is the right call. If tech is changing this fast maybe a portable solution is better. Easier to change when the technology does. Scotty