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To anyone who is still thinking about risking life and limb on the zipline - we need a couple of more fools (sorry - I meant to say folks) to join us and could accommodate up to 7 or so. Our reservation is for 1pm on Saturday May 5th and we are "doing" level two. The cost is $99 per person unless we get at least 10 (presently we are at 7 or 8) in order to get the 10% group discount. However, you must let me know no later than Sunday, April 22 at high noon (sounds ominous doesn't it?) if you want to join us. Bill

OK, so, here we go! I just called the Zipline people and for Saturday May 5th we have a "reservation" for 1pm. If we can get a total of 10 people to take advantage of this "reservation" we will each receive a discount of 10% off the standard $99 fee. In looking at those that have expressed interest, we do have a total of ten, but, Mike and Krunch have already made a reservation for Sunday at 10am. In order to not interfere with any Oliver related presentations, the Saturday afternoon at 1pm is about our only choice. Two other stipulations on getting the discount is that we pay with one check or credit card and that we confirm the reservation (with payment) no later than Sunday (April 22) at 2pm. I would be happy to be the "banker" and everyone can simply write me a check or pay me cash. Either PM me or simply reply directly here. Bill p.s. the people at the zipline told me that from start to finish we can expect to take between 2 and 4 hours.

Certainly I feel your pain. When one reads the story about the Outlaw Oliver and the "custom" work that was done there (and elsewhere) and compares that to what appears to be the current situation, I'm sure that it can be a bit frustrating. Even what appear to be fairly simple requests are met with the same response - "no". However, it seems to me that this looks like a case of "be careful of what you ask for". We, as a group, clamored for better quality and subjected the Company to a fair amount of abuse/criticism (justified or not) over these types of issues. Then, when the Company decides to concentrate on quality by limiting the number of deviations from the norm (custom work), once again we find ourselves in the position of not liking the result. Hopefully, one day, the Company will once again find itself in a position where they can accept custom work. I believe that I have a better, more comfortable and enjoyable camper because of the suggestions of the owners that came before me. But, in the final analysis, I'd rather have a quality unit that I can then modify and or customize later than a lesser built unit with a bunch of bells and whistles. Bill p.s. cool logo!

I suspect that a 44 magnum would work a bunch better.

David - going to miss you guys. Perhaps one of these days I'll get that Gin and Tonic you owe me! Hope the shoulder rehab goes well.. It sure is no fun - I've had both done (rotator cuff). Bill

Or, have a few as "door prizes" at the Rally?

Alison - Perhaps you are correct - I was only trying to clarify what the meaning of "special tire ramps" was. I've never used these to change a tire on either previous stick builts I owned or my Oliver. If I had to guess I would think that the "plus" version of the referenced model just might actually get the job done. Certainly it would get the camper high enough and take most of the weight so that a regular jack would not have to support quite as much. Hopefully I will never have to need one. Bill

Fritz - I'm only 6' even so I'm perhaps not the person that can best answer your question based on length. I do have plenty of room at both the top and bottom. However, I can say that I originally started sleeping with my head towards the rear of the camper (at the rounded corner end) but changed to sleep in the other direction. I like to sleep with elbows out near my head. This caused me to bang one or the other elbow on either the nightstand or on the rounded corner. Once I flipped direction there have been no further issues. Bill

Stan - Don't throw that "point" away! We can combine it with the "coin" that I got and get a milkbone for your pup. Bill

Cindy & Russel (and Harley) - There has been a fairly lengthy discussion on that very subject here. I believe that John Davies was either the originator or had things to say in that regard. You might want to PM him. Good luck. Bill

Since there are upwards of 80 Olivers registered for the Rally, we are obviously missing a number of campers. In any case, thanks to both Greg and Donna for the work in getting this thing put together. And to Chris for being such a good stalker. Bill

Overland - Since I didn't get a chance to test mine sine the install I sure do hope you get this figured out within the next week or so. Sorry I'm of no help but I think that Mark (and you) are on the right track for getting to the bottom of the issue. Bill

Western North Carolina has had about 2 inches of RAIN today and the temperatures are supposed to get down into the mid 30's tonight. However, that's a bunch better than all that snow. We will see high 70's by the middle of this coming week and I really don't mean to rub it in. Somehow someone has really made Mother Nature a bit mad this Spring. Bill

Yes! As Mike & Carol said, come to the Owner's Rally. It will be a great chance to meet other owners and to get a real head start on learning about your new Oliver. You will also get a chance to see a bunch of things that current owners have done to their Olivers and that just may give you ideas for yours. Welcome. Bill p.s. I flipped Harley for you!

No problem - you can always either take a look or book a site online https://guestrez.megahotel.com/Hotel/Reservation/Index/P3R24 or even give them a call today (Sunday) at (800) 252-7275. Don't forget to mention that you are with the Oliver Owner's Rally in order to get a discount on the site fees. Bill

Yes, it is a two step process. 1 - (as you have already done) register with Oliver. 2 - Either go online or call the State Park and register there for your campsite. Bill

Kind of looks like a "form and function" thing to me. Nice "form" but the "function" part just doesn't seem to make a bunch of sense to me. Bill

Nice to see that someone else zip ties the plumbing lines. I've never had a leak or any lines/connections crack, but I simply didn't like how the lines moved around in the compartment with the water pump. So, I zip tied and used "Gorilla Tape" to secure anything that moved. Many times this was done by simply securing one moving thing to another - now at least these lines all move less than they did before. "An ounce of prevention". While I was doing this, I also covered all water lines that I could reach with foam pipe insulation. Partly this was done because I had some left over from a house project. In addition to keeping some of the hot water a tad warmer than it would be otherwise and keeping the hot away from the cold lines, the main benefit was that the insulation reduced the amount of movement in those lines and/or prevented them from hitting or rattling against other items down in the dungeon. Bill

Randy - I think that I've got a drill extension that I used to use for the stabilizers on my old stick builts. If you are attending the Owner's Rally, I'll bring it along and you can have it if it works for you. Bill

That pressure tank thing is a snap once you figure out exactly where it will be placed (read that - where it will fit in). It will make your sink project look huge in comparison. I can feel the excitement in your words - After two years, I still like "tinkering around" in Twist. Just trying to think of little ways to make things work better or be more convenient. For me, it is all part of the joy of owning one of these things. Bill

Overland - Nice job! And, it looks good too. I've just never had an eye for these kind of things. Yes, I think that I know when I see something that looks tasteful but usually trying to design it myself doesn't turn out very good. Obviously you can do both - design and make it look good. Bill

Overland and Canoe - I thought that we may have had a case of Apples and Oranges, but ... I happened go over to see Twist yesterday afternoon and I specifically took a look at the towel bar. I had always just assumed that the little hole on the bottom of the "posts" at the end of the bar were where one would insert the usual Allen wrench to tighten and/or loosen that piece from the mounting bracket underneath. Wrong! Indeed there is a little (white) tab in that hole that is obviously the release tab for the "post". I didn't take it apart (leave a sleeping dog alone) but the whole assembly is firmly attached to the wall - as are the similar ones for the hooks inside and outside the bath. When I came home I pulled up the Moen website and found the installation guide for these puppies. https://www.moen.com/products/Brantford/Brantford_Chrome_18_towel_bar/YB2218CH Basically a plastic mounting bracket is screwed into the wall and then the "post" (outside piece) is pushed over it until an audible "snap" or "click" is heard. Assuming that the mounting bracket was installed properly, I can't see where there would be a problem. However, if the mounting plate wasn't tight enough to the wall or was too tight to the wall then the whole assembly would be loose or one would not hear the "snap" when putting the post over that plate. Therefore, the first thing I would do if I had a problem with mine would be to take the post off the mounting plate and inspect that plate for proper mounting and make adjustments as necessary. If that didn't work, I'd call Moen and ask for help. Given the design and the intended purpose it certainly appears to me that these items were made and sold to be Towel Bars. They are not robust enough to be grab bars, lift bars, safety bars, etc. and were never designed for those purposes. Bill

Rumline - Since Reed has not answered, I can only offer this: I think that the Blaylocks will not fit between the two tires on the Elite II. The regular Andersens barely fit and the Andersens(the larger model that is sold as a "jack") that are more similar to the Blaylocks will not fit between the tires either. Of course both the Blaylocks and the Andersens could be shortened but since the Blaylocks are made out of aluminum they would be a bit tougher to cut. The Blaylocks are roughly twice the weight of the Andersens and cost a bit more than the Andersens. Note that since I've never owned the Blaylocks I can only comment relative to what I've read about them. Hope this helps. Bill

OK, once again - there are obviously those of us that do not like Andersen products and those of us that do like them. The Blaylock's are better? Maybe and maybe not. I will do my utmost to treat ANY attendee at our OWNER'S RALLY with the same courtesy and respect as I give to any other. Bill

This almost sounds like we are talking "apples and oranges". I agree with Mike in that Moen makes fairly decent products that are guaranteed for life. So, no crap here with the towel bar. But, mine doesn't have a "little plastic tab" - just a bar inserted into two mounts that are firmly attached to the bathroom wall. Am I missing something? Bill