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Dexter does not set the self-adjusters, as they come new very loose. I’ve heard this now from you and others with new axles. When I pulled a drum off a new axle it came off wobbling like the OD of the shoes was much smaller than ID of the drum. They must believe they will adjust soon enough. Not good when you drive off just installed and hit mountain roads! I’ll tighten mine up some, to the point I can just hear a light scraping sound, shoes on drum, before I mount the wheels. 😂 I just installed new rear shoes on our truck rear drum brakes. I overdid the adjustment! The brakes were so good, that the parking brake engaged with a 1” push on the pedal, and I found the rears were braking while coasting! 🤣 Understanding the issue, next day I lifted the rear of the truck and loosened the self-adjusters about 1 1/2 turns and my new brakes are now working perfectly, better than ever! 😂

Alcan negotiated with Dexter and they agreed to refund my shipping cost. Thanks to Lew at Alcan for working this out for such a positive outcome, to David for this good idea, and to Ron, Ken and @2008RN for your related comments. They promised a 2-week rush build, and today, exactly two weeks after I entered my complaint, I have new axles delivered! They sure are pretty this time, so the extra time was well worth it.😂 I'm working this week, followed by 10 days off. So likely this Friday or latest Monday, I'll hitch up the Oliver and park it on our driveway. Then all I have to do is figure out, how in the heck to install new Dexter D52 axles and Alcan Springs!!! Love the challenge of a new project, learning something new and the achievement! I'll take pics and start a new installation thread when I get into it. Can't wait to see a picture of our Oliver sitting up in the air without axles, leaf springs, wheels or tires! Or perhaps to be safe, I should remove and replace one axle at a time! 🤣

I believe it is. The tire is still well planted on the bead of the wheel. That lip edge is superficial. You’re going to want to source a like wheel and center cap soon, but you should be safe finishing your trip. Try to keep that trailer on the road! 🤣

Congrats and good to know OTT is over the 1600 mark!

Beech Lane attaches labels to both sides! Look at the two photos I attached, and Ron's, and note the side where the wires are showing which is the exhaust side. When you look at the my first picture and Ron's you see the wires and the fan bracketing (the exhaust side). My second picture show just the fan blades, with wiring and frame on the back side. I did not realize these were "designed to be in the lower cabinet." I must have missed that as I'm not one to carefully read instructions vs. just start installing parts! 🤣 My thought when installing was exactly what Ron stated here. I also tried the additional interior fridge fan that Ron suggested, but returned that one as I could not measure fridge interior temperature improvement, it took valuable fridge space and you could hear the fan when sitting at the dinette. Geoff ended up with a superior installation with his great knowledge of wiring sensors and switches. The Beech Lane control box, although I installed it in the interior cabinet above the microwave where the LEDs are not visible, you still have to reach in there every time you turn the fan switch giving it power. Correct it will not remember a previous setting when last powered on. I do not use its temp sensing function, even though it's wired for that. When camped on a hot afternoon, I will turn the panel switch on and then the fan to 50% speed on the control box (the lowest speed setting) and generally I hear the fan running after dinner or before bed and with the panel switch turning it off is easy! It appears in Geoff's installation the fan is powered by temp sensor where ON/OFF is automated! 😂 I was able to feed wires without removing the microwave which is a bit of a trick! DC power is located through the bottom vent and it's easy to feed new wires to the upper vent. Then I poked through the upper insulation with an electrician's steel fish-tape to push new wires to the panel switch. With a curved section of fish-tape I was able to follow the curve of the hull up into the cabinet above the microwave for the fan control.

Nice work Geoff, as always. Your aluminum frame is a very well crafted! I did mine last summer. I have the control panel in the cabinet above the microwave and we switch it on most hot afternoons. Beech Lane makes a good fan and it moves a lot of heat out from behind the fridge. I purchased a second fan that cools the basement area where I installed our Victron MP2 inverter-charger. Not near as much heat down there, but use it on occasion.

I felt the same way until recently. There could never be enough cold water, with room in the fridge for at most 6 water bottles. We make ice too, but for drinks other than water. I long pooh-poohed the idea of an extra fridge, but it makes all the difference in the world to ALWAYS have fresh cold water! We keep 1-2 of these pitchers full in the outside fridge and one inside. When the inside one empties, I bring in one from outside and refill one so we always have one cold in and another cold one outside. Another 6-8 store-bought water bottles outside too for anybody who needs one. Now I'm getting thirsty! It's how we roll. 🤣 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VFK4WS6/?th=1 https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/11018-dometic-cfx5-refrigerator-tow-vehicle-installation-with-solar-power/

No, not drinking from RV water tanks! And as @routlaw wrote, we do not use it for cooking either. We too had been doing your #1 until more recently we started with your #2 idea. I didn't want 5-gal containers, too heavy, and we have ample room with a long-bed truck so don't need collapsible. I purchased some 2.5-gal and 1-gal food-safe PBA-free plastic containers from Hudson Exchange: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G9MT3MB?th=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVZ3X49 I fill two or more 2.5-gal containers, stored in the truck bed with an insulated cover (to keep out of sun since we have an open bed). And fill four 1-gal bottles kept on the closet floor, with one handy on the floor under the dinette. On average, we use at least 1-gal a day for coffee, cooking and Charley's drinking water. 🐶 Last time out was a 6-day trip and we had all the filtered drinking water we needed filled from home. When three 1-gal bottles empty, I refill 3 about 85% full using one 2.5-gal jug. We also bring the Clearsource 2-filter system so water from a campground is filtered. And we purchased these to keep cold drinking water ready in our new Dometic CFX5 45L cooler! Drinking from good quality cups or Thermos bottles instead of endless plastic water bottles of which I could easily consume 6 water bottles a day! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VFK4WS6?ref=fed_asin_title&th=1 We really like how this is working and should have done it sooner. A lot less trips to grocery stores or Walmart merely to buy water!

You need to get some elevation! Was in the mid 90s today. We had our 3rd brief Monsoon rain for the season after 10 months of drought. Sitting pretty at 5440 ft, and now at 7:30PM it’s 67F now, windy with a drizzle, turned off the A/C, opened the windows. Life is Good! 🤣

Ours had what looks like the same single fan, but on the top of the coils, easy to remove (see pics on page 1, first post). Yeah, leave it there and install the dual Beech Lane fans!

David, what you wrote is usually my frame of mind. I am generally more of a care-free person vs. being the worrier. I do required maintenance, but if they say annually for me it's going to be every two years. Oliver has had a 3-year history with these bearings. And yes, I imagine it's a good 200 trailers and likely 300 by now. This is a small sample and Oliver owners tow less miles per year than commercial trailers. There are many forums citing failures like the Airstream owner I quoted above. Being safe, conservative and preventive, I would not count on your last sentence always being true. It could be said that a 7K LB Oliver will run much longer without failure on a bearing designed to support much heavier trailers. Installing these axles is over-engineering and they should work as designed for years, even longer on our relatively light and aerodynamic Olivers. At a minimum, I suggest Oliver Owners with Nev-R Lube bearings should get online with RockAuto, Summit (links above) or another auto parts store and spend <$100 for 2 replacement bearings to have onboard. The secondary parts, snap-rings and washer will be reusable except in rare cases and investment in tools is another step. Each of us will decide on the amount of protection, where we feel comfortable. A few parts and perhaps tools is a small amount of insurance so that one day, on some future cross-country trip, we are not stuck somewhere waiting days without having this critical part on-hand. What Don wrote above is seriously true, though many of us carry extra water pumps too! 🤣

Do you know the approximately mileage on the failed bearing? Zero miles. I did this work on a brand new drum-hub assembly that was removed from an axle damaged during shipping. This drum was untouched and I wanted to learn this procedure and prove it can be worked on the road when needed. How did you discover the need to replace the bearing? Noise? Inspection by rotating the wheel while lifted off the ground? You are towing close to 6000 miles a year. You should check your bearings and brakes annually or realistically every other year (I'm always on the realistic schedule, so much to do with limited time to do so). I jack up the Oliver using the stabilizer jacks. Get each wheel off the ground and spin them. The Nev-R Lube bearing should make no discernable noise. Listen to the bearing first. If hearing is not one of your keen attributes use some kind of conduit or device to listen more closely. Any slight dragging or scraping sound means the bearing is worn to some extent. Bad sounds, replace it while home vs. chancing failure on the road. If I had 30K on a trailer and ONE bearing was making bad noise, I would replace all 4 at home and have another 5 years of safe travel, period! Preventive Maintenance is a science. These Nev-R Lube bearings can last less than one year, or 100K miles over 5 years. Check the forums, it just depends (and perhaps due more on installation precision vs. component manufacturing). Then you should check the brakes. Generally when working an inspection of brakes they will be somewhat loose, and the rear axle will be looser than the front. Do this after bearing inspection as you want the shoes loose so that noises you hear first would be associated wit' "da bearings" vs. "da shoes." There are two inspection ports on the back of the brake backing plate (when you order new axles these are left open, buy an 8-pack of plugs)! You want to tighten the self-adjusters until you hear and feel the shoes making light contact with the drums, softly scraping. Next, have the TV connected and have a helper hit the brake pedal or pull the lever on the brake controller and feel, yes feel for yourself, that the brakes are engaging as they should! When you feel it, you will understand. 🤣 If you do no feel it and believe you did everything right... Check the amperage to the drum brakes, troubleshoot that! It appears you are recommending owners of OTTs equipped with the Nev-r Lube bearings invest in the... Harbor Freight press kit, but carry onboard only the 6 pounds of necessary tools from the kit to ensure the job could be performed by any competent brake/suspension repair shop wherever the failure happens to occur. Exactly! First, make sure you have 2-4 bearings and 1-2 sets of replacement snap-rings, main washers and spindle nuts. You can carry a 25 LB LARGE Bearing Press kit, or you can know which fittings you need. One reason I did this work was first to show it could be done and second to document the correct tools and press plate sizes we need! If you have the correct sizes of bearing press parts, you're more than half-way there! Trust me and bring this small toolset, or bring the entire bearing press kit and you could help any stranger along the way! 🤣

For sure, but not a "little more expensive" but A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE! I don't get the pricing structure re the Nev-R Lube 6-on-5.5" hub/drum assemblies. We can special order a full axle for a little more than $1000, but one hub/drum assembly alone is $650 plus tax! There is also the space consideration. These 12" drums are large and heavy. https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hubs-and-Drums/Dexter/8-388-80UC3.html

@dhaig Don, great questions! I'll write up replies when I get time tonight...

Ha! That's what Chris said when she read this post! I teach a PMP Prep class virtually on Zoom, a half-day at a time on camera... That's enough for me, though I do enjoy teaching and helping colleagues, giving back to the community! 😂

Your kit looks about the same. If they use different numbering, let me know and I can measure the parts and list sizes here. Re snap ring pliers, I have a full Blue Point set which is the Snap-On company value brand. You want the smallest possible since the holes in the little ring are pin-sized. Then you want the largest possible as the bearing snap-ring is large and heavy to compress.

Agreed. If the bearing got badly damaged as it failed, it can cause damage to other parts but most of the time they would be reusable. I read somewhere that the spindle nut should not be reused and I do not believe pinching the nut would help any as this is hardened steel. But when asked on eTrailer, the rep replied as follows -- Does the Spindle Nut Need to be Replaced on Nev-R Lube Axles?

This is the bearing after pressed back in. You can feel it bottom out, when the air tool starts making a noise. Then the snap-ring fits into its groove. And we know the snap-ring is right when you grab one end by the hole, pull it towards the other end and the entire snap-ring stays in the groove while it circles around a bit.

Pushing the new bearing into the hub is much easier than pulling the old one. Apply some grease to to inside of the hub and reapply grease on the press bolt and washers. You'll need the larger 05# press on the opposite side (as pictured). I used a 1 1/4" closed-end wrench to hold the bolt on the inside and a short 2x4 under the drum to hold the wrench up in place.

The bearing comes out towards the outside, towards the side where the snap-ring keeps it place, as shown in the first picture above. The first picture below shows the interior of the drum, the steel surface that the magnet grabs and on this side the opening to the wheel bearing is smaller. The bearing must be pushed through this smaller opening. In the second picture you can see the two sizes within the hub. It's a rather snug design! You need the 11# press fitting to push the bearing out. On the other end will be the 001# stay, bolted through it all. You should apply wheel bearing grease on the bolt where it will be threaded, both sides of the washers. After you pull the bearing out about 3/4" or more, when it bottoms out, you will disassemble and start over adding the 17# sleeve for additional clearance (not enough bolt length requires doing this in two steps). Then continue to crank down until the bearing releases, just pops out of the hub! I used the hand tools pictured which was doable but made the job tedious. A 1/2" impact would certainly help, so at home I used a HD pneumatic 1/2" impact to finish up. Remember, all auto shops have air tools and a 20 LB press would make butter out of pulling/pressing this bearing! This picture shows the hub of the drum now empty. You see the tools in order with the removed bearing inline. It came out nice and since it's a new part, it's going back in! 🤣

You will need a bearing kit: https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Bearings-Races-Seals-Caps/Dexter/31-73-3.html Or you can save some money purchasing parts separately. The Chrysler PT Cruiser, 2010 and earlier used the same bearing as their front-wheel drive wheel bearings. You can find them here and 100 other auto parts stores. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1117862&cc=1441786&pt=1672&jsn=10543 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tmk-set49?seid=srese2&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Brands+|+T&utm_term=4581596235429750&utm_content=GSAPI+5ba2a4366829c There's this company... Though I have no idea as to whether they are legit, but good prices as listed. Don't buy bearings here but it appears they have the correct snap-rings and perhaps other Nev-R Lube parts! https://www.easternmarine.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Nev-r-lube And you need to get a bearing press. I suggest buying this even for those of you how would not entertain doing the work yourself. Most small shops will not have the correct size press fittings. https://www.harborfreight.com/front-wheel-drive-bearing-remover-and-installer-kit-21-piece-63728.html This kit is what I used it to remove and replace this this axle bearing! And you will NOT want to tote around this toolkit with you at 17x15x4" large and 25 LB heavy (though I could name a few Oliver Owners who would do so!). If you were to carry 6 LBS of numbered tools, as pictured... These are the tools i used.

After safely jacking up the Oliver, and removing the wheel, the brake drum/hub must be removed. First you'll need an extremely light snap-ring pliers for the spindle nut keeper which is required to get the hub/drum off. Then the spindle nut must be removed which requires an extremely large 1 7/16” socket. This nut is torqued to 150 lb-ft! You may need your spouse or travel partner to apply the TV brakes so that you can release this nut using a HD breaker bar. OR if you have a HIGH-Torque battery-powered 1/2" impact it makes this and several other tasks so much easier!🤣 Sockets of this size are generally 3/4” drive so you may also need a 3/4" to 1/2" socket adapter. The main bearing-keeper snap-ring is HD! You'll need quite a HD snap-ring pliers and good hand strength! If you intend to have an auto or trailer service shop work the bearing replacement, they can also remove the larger snap-ring, but it’s good to have all he necessary tools of which any small service station may or may not possess! These are the parts you would remove AND the same parts that may have to be replaced, besides the BEARING! I suggest having two complete bearing kits with you at all times.

The idea here is to understand what is required to service Dexter Nev-R Lube Bearings while on the road given a bearing failure. Specific knowledge, parts, and tools are required and it’s important to be ready for this issue that is likely to occur, sooner or later. Whether you are the person working the repairs or not, understanding this is equally important! Having the required bearing parts kits and the correct size bearing press tools would allow you to work this repair DIY, or at ANY local service shop, anywhere you happen to be in your travels when a bearing might fail. Without spares and tools, you’re stuck. No local repair shop will have the parts you need and very few would have the bearing press tools in the correct sizes on hand even if they have air tools and a press! Note this recent statement from an Airstream owner: “We're on a five week adventure and experienced a bearing failure that sidelined us for 5 days. I got the bearing from the local O'Reillys Parts Store...the other components I had to order from an online source. Despite all the Truck and Trailer industry in Oklahoma City, nobody had the spindle washer, nut or snap ring I needed. The bearing was easy to get and much cheaper than the Dexter option. It's the other parts that hold the hub on that can be challenging to find if you need it right now to get back on the road.” Once you remove the bearing cap with a light chisel or similar tool, this is what you will see --

But I’m not laying cables, not picking them up, not cleaning them off, not allowing them to dry, not buying and handling suitcases and “cord handlers” then repeat! We charge our starter and house batteries daily, Same for your phone and laptop batteries. Install the battery charger somewhere convenient, we have ours in the Attic. I ask Chris to swap batteries, one minute later she’s done and the backup is back on the charger. Usually, whoever takes Charley out for a morning outing will change the battery. If I asked her to go outside, good weather or bad, and wind up that friggin’ cord, I would get a look and then have to do it myself. Use the technology, or not, yes it’s your choice! The cable that came with our Mini is still in the box! Do you choose to make a call, with your cell phone only when connected by cord to power? 🤣

OK, IMHO this is starting to get ridiculous! 🤣 I'm trying to get you guys OFF the cord and your buying accessories and even suitcases to carry your Mini and more cases to carry extra cords, and extra-loooong cords, more and more cords! Why? Then we have other threads, some showing fancy builds with routers and POE systems, drilling holes in Oliver hulls for unnecessary Ethernet ports. (yeah, cut the cord!) 🤣 So @Patriot asked me if the DeWalt battery was waterproof? The answer is No. But anybody wanting a battery solution could easily buy a waterproof 12V or better a 24V LI battery to power the Mini. NP, 100s available. (cut the cord!) I purchased a waterproof case and upon delivery it sat on my parts shelf for several days while I was thinking... Would I want to build the battery adapter into a case, so that every time I need to change the battery (twice daily), I would have to open the case, change batteries and reseal the case? Should I force the need to do this twice a day for the 1 out of 20 days we see rainfall? No way! I returned the useless case today. This is my solution. I'm not as fancy as some of you. Don't spend money at all on cases and wire management devices, or stuff that holds more stuff, it's not me. I still wrap cords on my arm and elbow in a wrapping circular fashion and then toss the cord in the toolbox or trunk as I have done all my life. It will be OK! And it must be nasty to wind up that 50 ft cord when breaking camp, all wet and dirty, leaves and pine needles - Yuck! (cut the cord) This is my waterproofing solution for our Starlink Mini battery. We always poopy-bags available, or if not, EVERY Public Park has a dispenser! Low cost, no hassle and I might need a waterproof covering once or twice a year! 🤣