New axles may not fit all older sub-frames

[rideandfly]

John,

Yes

If you are going to order, I know you will check the specs & cost with Dexter first and what is or is not included. I cannot speak to bearings, new or old style, the Dexter distributor can answer this. Dexter 3" U bolts are 1/2" and off the shelf 5 leaf springs are 1 3/4" wide. Not current on Alcan spring replacement specs.

Springs, mounting hardware, EZ flex, handling & shipping are extra. I looked up the Dexter distributor for my zip code on the Dexter website and called them, Redneck Trailer Lincolnton, NC to get the information I posted above.

Also posted the build sheet for one of my axles earlier in this thread.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:03 PM by rideandfly

[MAX Burner]

19 hours ago, rideandfly said:

it would be a special order with lead time of 3 to 3 1/2 weeks for $795 retail.

FYI:  This is exactly what we learned from Dexter and OTT last May when we switched ours out.  Turned out that OTT had the correctly sized D52s in stock for our model year (luckily) so we didn't have to wait 3 - 4 weeks for the special order from Dexter.  The price was $825/ea from OTT but that included the Dexter 4-pack 1,750# which we didn't need.  

Just as an interrogative comment:

Since installing the Alcans in March, we've logged 6,750 miles on them and since upgrading from the D35s to D52s in May, we've logged 3,729 miles on the axles.  We've experience zero issues and frankly, cannot "feel" or observe any differences while under tow.  I "base-lined photographed" each of the aluminum angle cross members prior to installing the springs and have checked them several times since and haven't noted any cracked welds or other damage.  At the 5,000-mile point, we last checked the 3" x 9/16" U-bolt torque - all good.  Granted, we didn't wonder off on any long unimproved roads except for a few short jaunts into BLM and USFS campgrounds....  

FWIW:  We'll continue to keep a weather-eye on the running gear (as we would anyway), but our peace of mind and overall confidence in Casablanca is significantly better than before making these improvements.

Cheers, ALL!

[rideandfly]

4 hours ago, MAX Burner said:

FYI:  This is exactly what we learned from Dexter and OTT last May when we switched ours out.  Turned out that OTT had the correctly sized D52s in stock for our model year (luckily) so we didn't have to wait 3 - 4 weeks for the special order from Dexter.  The price was $825/ea from OTT but that included the Dexter 4-pack 1,750# which we didn't need.  

 

Art,

Do you recall if the axles you removed were SC 50.0" or 50.5"?

Thanks,

[jd1923]

1 minute ago, rideandfly said:

Art,

Do you recall if the axles you removed were SC 50.0" or 50.5"?

Thanks,

If not, the length of the new D52s would do @MAX Burner. Did they change from 50" to 50.5" by 2017 on hull 226?

[rideandfly]

16 minutes ago, jd1923 said:

If not, the length of the new D52s would do @MAX Burner. Did they change from 50" to 50.5" by 2017 on hull 226?

Another thing I wondering about, if the axle SC spec did not change from 2015/2016 to 2017, there could have been enough fabrication tolerance (Oliver welded axle mount) to allow the 50.5" to fit, just a thought for now.

Edited Tuesday at 05:26 PM by rideandfly

[MAX Burner]

2 hours ago, rideandfly said:

Do you recall if the axles you removed were SC 50.0" or 50.5"?

The original D35s were Spring Center = 50.5"

[rideandfly]

1 hour ago, MAX Burner said:

The original D35s were Spring Center = 50.5"

Thanks,

Looks like some of the 2015 & 2016 LE2s have 3500lb & 5200lb axles with spring centers of 50.0". 

 

[mountainoliver]

If you’re keeping track. My 2017 hull 208 has a 50.50 in. 3500 lb. axle.

[rideandfly]

LE2 (Dexter axle spring center) SC & weight capacity specifications, from information gathered, looks like only 2015 & 2016 LE2's axles have  SC of 50” (so far)

It was not my intention to start a list, but this will keep info organized.

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" 5200lbs

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” 5200lb

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” 3500lb (Gathered from info Chris posted)

2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ 3500lb

2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" 3500lb

2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” 5200lb

2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" 3500lb

Please correct me if I have your LE2 info wrong

Edited Wednesday at 01:15 AM by rideandfly

[CRM]

27 minutes ago, rideandfly said:

Please correct me if I have your LE2 info wrong

2010 LE2 #45 has 5200lb axles with SC 50.5

[mossemi]

30 minutes ago, rideandfly said:

LE2 (Dexter axle spring center) SC & weight capacity specifications, from information gathered, looks like only 2015 & 2016 LE2's axles have  SC of 55.0" (so far)

The value of 55.0" is a typo, correct?

Mossey

[rideandfly]

36 minutes ago, mossemi said:

The value of 55.0" is a typo, correct?

Mossey

 

I will change it to 50”

 

Thanks,

Edited Wednesday at 01:14 AM by rideandfly

[rideandfly]

29 minutes ago, CRM said:

2010 LE2 #45 has 5200lb axles with SC 50.5

Updated

[jd1923]

53 minutes ago, CRM said:

2010 LE2 #45 has 5200lb axles with SC 50.5

This is an outlier. It appears every other hull 2016 and older has the 50” axle. If this is true and Dexter can build either when ordered, why would OTT start with 50.5” then use 50” and then back to 50.5. It’s not what Henry Ford would have done!

[MAX Burner]

11 hours ago, rideandfly said:

Please correct me if I have your LE2 info wrong

Not to make the list more complicated or confusing, but would it be of value to anyone by indicating OEM "original" axle capacity and "upgraded" axle capacity for those that have gone from D35s to D52s?  Just a thought...

[rideandfly]

1 hour ago, MAX Burner said:

Not to make the list more complicated or confusing, but would it be of value to anyone by indicating OEM "original" axle capacity and "upgraded" axle capacity for those that have gone from D35s to D52s?  Just a thought...

OK, good idea.

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from info Chris posted)

2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity

2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional units, too.

Edited Wednesday at 01:11 PM by rideandfly

[SeaDawg]

17 hours ago, jd1923 said:

This is an outlier. It appears every other hull 2016 and older has the 50” axle. If this is true and Dexter can build either when ordered, why would OTT start with 50.5” then use 50” and then back to 50.5. It’s not what Henry Ford would have done!

When #45 was built, Oliver's main production was the Elite I, with the 5200# axle we have. It's what they had in stock, imo. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:33 PM by SeaDawg

[CRM]

25 minutes ago, SeaDawg said:

When #45 was built, Oliver's main production was the Elite I, with the 5200# axle we have. It's what they had in stock, imo. 

That's what I was thinking, which means the early E1's were probably all 50.5 SC too.

[rich.dev]

8 hours ago, rideandfly said:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from info Chris posted)

2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity

2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2023 LE2# 1386 SC 50.5” D52 original axle capacity

Added hull# 1386, my stock springs are 1750lbs capacity 

[rideandfly]

2 hours ago, rich.dev said:

Added hull# 1386, my stock springs are 1750lbs capacity 

Can you take a photo of the Dexter label on one of your axles & post or let me know if the SC is 50 or 50.5 and if axle is 3500lb or 5200lb capacity.

What year is your Ollie? Check out the Dexter label photo in Mountainman198's first post in this thread.

Thanks,

Edited Wednesday at 11:29 PM by rideandfly

[rich.dev]

3 hours ago, rideandfly said:

Can you take a photo of the Dexter label on one of your axles & post or let me know if the SC is 50 or 50.5 and if axle is 3500lb or 5200lb capacity.

What year is your Ollie? Check out the Dexter label photo in Mountainman198's first post in this thread.

year is 2023, and here’s a pic of the label on my axle and build sheet from Dexter.

 

[rideandfly]

4 hours ago, rich.dev said:

year is 2023, and here’s a pic of the label on my axle and build sheet from Dexter.

 

Thanks,

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from info Chris posted)

2016 LE2 # 113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 # 226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity

2021 LE2 # 898 SC 50.5" D52 Upgraded axle capacity  (Mountainman198's earlier axle label photo 12/22 date)

2023 LE2 # 1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional campers, too.

Edited Thursday at 07:29 AM by rideandfly

[Ronbrink]

For the list, my 2020 OLEll, 579

[rideandfly]

7 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

For the list, my 2020 OLEll, 579

 

Thanks,

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Again, please correct me if I have something wrong and I can add additional campers, too.

Edited Thursday at 08:01 PM by rideandfly

[MAX Burner]

@rideandfly - Steve and Talii's Hull #50 has SC 50.5" D52's w/disc brakes and upgraded Alcan springs --- FYI.