Clouded window glass

[dewdev]

I know there has been a bit of discussion on replacing window glass in hte past, but the search function did not find what I was looking for, so I would like some input from those in the know.

One of my fixed (not slider) window thermoglass panes is clouding between the panes. I am guessing there is a break in the seal between the thermopanes.

Has this happend to anyone?

Has anyone been able to have just the glass replaced?

How would I get this fixed window removed to take to a repair shop?

Can any glass shop do the replacement?

Thanks

[topgun2]

1 hour ago, dewdev said:

Has this happend to anyone?

Try a PM to SeaDawg.

I know that she had this issue and a "local" (Florida) place solved the issue for her.

Bill

[rideandfly]

@dewdev , I have a different reason to remove the glass, but have the same question on how to remove the glass. Believe the previous owner might have put darker tint on Ollie's windows, now they have etched window spots. I'm thinking about replacing them.

Thanks for starting the thread!

[rideandfly]

Additional information on our 2015 LE2:

Contacted Oliver and they said my window is a Lippert brand and they gave me this link:

 https://support.lci1.com/8800-series-windows

Here's a photo of one of the identification tag on one of our windows:

Started searching on the Lippert website, if I find good video for window removal, I will post it.

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by rideandfly

[routlaw]

Oliver windows, how I hate them let me count the ways. Like others here I am now searching for replacements for the original windows. The only good thing I can say about them is they let a certain amount of light in along with an equal amount of water when it rains or snows. Otherwise they are a relic out of the early part of the 20th century. 

Just spent part of the last week cleaning and disassembly only for it to rain the next day with leaks galore coming into the cabin. Pipe cleaner wicking had no effect whatsoever.  New mattress was soaked. Imagine buying a $100K car or truck and having to deal with such nonsense. 

I don't have a solution yet but am searching. To the OP I imagine one would have to completely take the entire window assembly out of the cabin to remove the stationary portion of the window. Surely a local window and glass business could repair one of the components if taken out of the Oliver and delivered to them?

Good luck @dewdev with your repairs.

[jd1923]

4 hours ago, dewdev said:

One of my fixed (not slider) window thermoglass panes is clouding between the panes. I am guessing there is a break in the seal between the thermopanes.

Has this happened to anyone?
Has anyone been able to have just the glass replaced?
How would I get this fixed window removed to take to a repair shop?
Can any glass shop do the replacement?

Most window shops will not handle RV windows.

This happened in a bad way to the Bigfoot we had, where the vacuum seal between the pains had shrunk, cracked and moisture got inside clouding it up.

I found a shop in Mesa AZ that specialized in this, but sold the RV before I had any work done. Yes, the entire window assembly is removed. Then they disassemble the frame to remove the glass sections and strip the seals along the edges, between the panes. They clean the glass thoroughly, seal the two glass pains, rebuild the window assembly and reinstall. At the time 4 years ago they charged $90 a panel which is a great price if you only have a few, but gets expensive for a lot of panels.

Between Mesa and Apache Junction AZ is one of the RV capitals of the country. There are several hundred RV dealers, 100s more service centers, parts distributors, etc. RV business is big here. Maybe unlikely to have this kind of service company in Maine and other small markets, but worth asking at some of your local RV shops. I'll locate their contact info if anybody is coming out this way next season and is interested.

I did replace the glass on our main living room window on the bigfoot instead. Bigfoot service gave me contact info to the window manufacturer and I was able to buy glass panels, the fuzzy liners, rubber borders, etc.  Maybe Lippert service with the ID tag Bill showed, replacement panels and parts can be purchased.

You must remove the blinds, then all interior screws to remove the interior section. Then the window is removed from the outside. Get some putty knifes under the outer lip to cut and loosen the butyl. Once the entire window assembly is removed, you will find small set screws holding the frame together and the stationery glass in place. It's a bit of work. Of course, have the parts or a way to reseal the double pains first. Take pics as you go. Clean everything in and out. Reassembly should be straightforward using new butyl for the main seal.

[johnwen]

I wonder if the 2022 models can be fitted with the 2027 windows...

[CRM]

14 hours ago, topgun2 said:

Try a PM to SeaDawg.

I know that she had this issue and a "local" (Florida) place solved the issue for her.

Bill

Probably talking about this place- Suncoast Designers.

Haven't used them myself, but I have heard good things about them. They provide a lifetime guarantee to the original owner too.

[mountainoliver]

I had Suncoast Designers rebuild three of my windows several years ago and they did a good job. They remove the entire window, completely disassembled it, disassembled the individual sections, fixed the seal, and reassembled everything and put the whole assembly back in the trailer. They rebuilt both the fixed and the movable sections in order to provide a complete lifetime warranty. Complete disassembly of the frame requires the astragal to be removed by drilling out the pop rivets and replaced with gaskets and pop rivets again. If only the moving panel needs to be fixed, that is easily removed by removing the plastic/rubber track material first then the window just lifts out. After they removed, rebuilt and replaced the windows I had to reseal the frame to trailer myself. Not inexpensive but at the time I had mine done they had a lifetime warranty. If you can rebuild them soon, before any etching takes place between the panels, they can reuse the original glass. They have a fairly large parking lot and nearly every spot has electricity and water so that you can stay in your camper. Also, there used to be a guy at Quartzsite during the big tent rv show that would rebuild windows but you had to remove your own windows and deliver them to him. I have never met him but I know of a couple of Oliver owners who have had windows fixed by him.