Day/Night Window Shade Questions

[topgun2]

11 hours ago, Mike and Carol said:

Take your time!  I had the shade on the kitchen bar for a few days.  

Heck!

I had mine apart on the workshop floor for a few months!🤨

[GraniteStaters]

Mine is sitting in the dining room while I try to work up the mental energy to tackle it.  I am getting confused just reading this thread!  Things that look like mazes baffle me.  🙂. Paula

[topgun2]

30 minutes ago, GraniteStaters said:

I am getting confused just reading this thread! 

Its actually easier than it looks.

Do one side at a time, take pics as you remove the broken string so that you can remember the exact routing.

Unfortunately, I never found a way to "test" my progress as I went.  That meant that I never really knew if I was doing it correctly until I got it all back together and tried putting the shade up and down.

Perhaps one additional hint - take another of your shades into the work area with you to use as a reference.  I'm not saying that you should take it apart, but, having one that you know works properly as a reference provided me with at least some assurance that I was on the correct track.

Bill

[tallmandan]

One of my window shades developed a problem.  The outer nylon covering of one of the cords has separated from the inner core and is bunching up between the pleats, preventing the shade from collapsing/folding completely (see photo).  I can only collapse the night shade partially now, leaving a quarter to a third of the shade unfolded. 

This thread has been very helpful to understand what I need to attempt and how.  This does seem difficult and potentially frustrating to tackle...  Thank you to those who have shared info and tips!

? Question to those that have replaced broken cords:  Can I dissasemble the shade frame and replace just one of the four cords and leave the others in place?  Do I have to release tension on all four cords and take everything apart and start over? 
 

 

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[rideandfly]

1 hour ago, tallmandan said:

One of my window shades developed a problem.  The outer nylon covering of one of the cords has separated from the inner core and is bunching up between the pleats, preventing the shade from collapsing/folding completely (see photo).  I can only collapse the night shade partially now, leaving a quarter to a third of the shade unfolded. 

This thread has been very helpful to understand what I need to attempt and how.  This does seem difficult and potentially frustrating to tackle...  Thank you to those who have shared info and tips!

? Question to those that have replaced broken cords:  Can I dissasemble the shade frame and replace just one of the four cords and leave the others in place?  Do I have to release tension on all four cords and take everything apart and start over? 

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It's not as difficult as it looks, I would replace them all so you have the same size/age cords in that shade.

 

 

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[jdmmtx]

I just noticed last time we were out that the string running vertically through the far right side of one of our shades looked as if it had detached from inside the plastic frame (there was a frayed end sticking out of one of the "thread" holes in the fabric just below the plastic frame on the upper right.) I assumed it had come untied. Could that be the case or did it likely break? Am I going to have to rethread the whole thing? 

[topgun2]

5 hours ago, jdmmtx said:

I assumed it had come untied. Could that be the case or did it likely break? Am I going to have to rethread the whole thing? 

I'd bet that the string broke because there is simply no "extra" string in the "loop" until you get to the very middle of the top and bottom of the frame.  And, even then this "extra" string is tied off.

I'm afraid that you are going to have to rethread the whole thing.

Bill

[topgun2]

12 hours ago, tallmandan said:

? Question to those that have replaced broken cords:  Can I dissasemble the shade frame and replace just one of the four cords and leave the others in place?  Do I have to release tension on all four cords and take everything apart and start over? 

Yes, it is possible for you to only restring one side.  But, if one broke then I'd guess that the other side is not far behind.  Besides, since you have to basically take the frame apart to do one side, you might as well go ahead and do the other side while you are there.

Basically what I'm saying is the very same thing that rideandfly said above.

Bill

[John Dorrer]

We have both street side shades have strings break. The shades still work, though at a slight angle.

I reached out to Oliver and  plan on having both frames and shades replaced later this year or 2/27.  Oliver said replacement would be no problem.

We have ZERO desire to re-string them ourselves. "We would like to stay married".🤣

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[Mike and Carol]

17 minutes ago, John Dorrer said:

We have ZERO desire to re-string them ourselves. "We would like to stay married".🤣

We have done the restringing thing a couple of times.  Both times were real bonding experiences!  Mike

[tallmandan]

2 hours ago, John Dorrer said:

I reached out to Oliver and  plan on having both frames and shades replaced later this year or 2/27.  Oliver said replacement would be no problem.

We have ZERO desire to re-string them ourselves. "We would like to stay married".🤣

Ha!  Yes I have the same concern!  Just curious, did Oliver give you a price for the new shades?  Looking for motivation to try this DIY project 🙂

[topgun2]

41 minutes ago, tallmandan said:

Looking for motivation to try this DIY project

I'd be willing to bet that once you hear the price you WILL have all the motivation that you need.

As (I believe) Mike said - this is really not a hard project.  But, it is a bit tedious and requires that you really pay attention to what you are doing.

Bill

[Mike and Carol]

Just now, topgun2 said:

I'd be willing to bet that once you hear the price you WILL have all the motivation that you need.

As (I believe) Mike said - this is really not a hard project.  But, it is a bit tedious and requires that you really pay attention to what you are doing.

Bill

It is not difficult.  Go slow, be methodical and you’ll do fine.

[John Dorrer]

1 hour ago, topgun2 said:

I'd be willing to bet that once you hear the price you WILL have all the motivation that you need.

As (I believe) Mike said - this is really not a hard project.  But, it is a bit tedious and requires that you really pay attention to what you are doing.

Bill

Someone listed around $150 per window if I remember.  Just don't remember where it was posted.

[Patriot]

1 hour ago, tallmandan said:

Ha!  Yes I have the same concern!  Just curious, did Oliver give you a price for the new shades?  Looking for motivation to try this DIY project 🙂

Dan, I think Mike Sharpe told me $750 to $800 per window shade. 😳 Mike said they have to be ordered through Oliver and the company will make the shade and ship it to Oliver and then Oliver Service ships them to you. This quote was last October when we stopped by Oliver Service.

As @topgun2 said the price will motivate me when the time comes to DYI shade repair.