Moderators topgun2 Posted September 19, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 19, 2020 Banjo - Yes the bakflip does leak to a very minor extent. Primarily at the rear corners where it mates with your tailgate. But, this is minor and can be (somewhat) mitigated with the use of some additional weather striping in these corners. I'm guessing that nearly all of these covers will leak to some extent under the right conditions. Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Thank you Susan. All good stuff to take into consideration. We will be starting out with a RAM 1500 so payload will be an issue for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Topgun I'm sure that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatDa Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This lists approximate weights of the DB options. Weight will be +- based on actual bed length too: https://diamondbackcovers.com/pages/compare-covers I didn't weigh mine separately, as it was part of my do-not-worry-about-payload-anymore HD truck upgrade The DB doesn't leak, but my tailgate isn't sealed on the vertical or bottom seam so I get dust or driven water there. 2019 LE2 #529. Standard Floorplan. 2020 GMC Sierra 2500 Duramax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 As so many have said, getting the right product to meet one’s PRIMARY usage need is the issue. We primarily needed 1600 lbs load carrying capacity for our SxS and secure storage for our generators and other gear so went with the heavy DB option. As for leaks, we’ve been in many a torrential downpour without a problem BUT our Silverado 2500 HD truck bed rails are level and flat all around and the bedliner is sprayed on, insuring a level surface. In contrast, one of our Ollie friends has a new Ram 1500 with the 400 lbs DB. his bed liner doesnt set flat on his rails and compresses under the the compression of the DB clamps ... creating a dip at the clamp, and thus a makes sealing more of a challenge. With so many options, it’s a bit crazy-making, challenging and fun(?) to make THE perfect decision. One of my college professors had a good line about making decisions amongst several good options, “go with the option that makes the most sense.” You can always change your mind if something comes along that makes more sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I know I know, this thread ended quite some time ago. But it was quite interesting to me, so I figured I’d add one more thing . Our TV is a Tundra, Leer cap with the flip up side windows. Plenty of room for our gear in the past.. But we decided we wanted to lug a couple of bikes around, and working out a bike rack without the trailer in hand was unsuccessful.... so the bikes go into the back of the truck.. So I built a storage system into the back of the truck, with space for the bikes, and everything else. There are vertical slots for a folding table and 2 chairs. Street side has a deck 19.5” above the bed with storage for the camp stove and propane bottles, screen room, another chair etc on top. There is a hatch in it to access the area below, where the tools, telescoping ladder, shop vac, power tools, generator, etc get stowed. The generator is easily accessed through an opening next to the bikes. There is also a bait tray ( a plastic tub about 18”x 26” x 11” used to carry lobster bait) with a plywood top.. this gets filled with sea shells, fossils, shark teeth, rocks, pine cones and who all knows what else along the way. The top enables us to store things on top of it. All of this slides out easily to the tailgate with a boat hook. The big cooler slides under the deck behind it. The bikes, which were the cause of all this, back into the curbside of the bed standing up. You can see the plywood receivers I made for the back tires to help hold them upright, and they get strapped to the side of the bed. I can get our water jugs and other stuff on that side as well. I can have the whole contraption disassembled in about 15 minutes.. This is a prototypical project, we will give it a try this winter, redesign as needed next summer, rebuild it with more attractive material than CDX plywood and scrap lumber... 2 2 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovingVistas Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Mcb said: I know I know, this thread ended quite some time ago. This is why good threads never die. Great layout and a tremendous example of a customizable approach to storage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray and Susan Huff Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Mcb said: I know I know, this thread ended quite some time ago. But it was quite interesting to me, so I figured I’d add one more thing . Our TV is a Tundra, Leer cap with the flip up side windows. Plenty of room for our gear in the past.. But we decided we wanted to lug a couple of bikes around, and working out a bike rack without the trailer in hand was unsuccessful.... so the bikes go into the back of the truck.. So I built a storage system into the back of the truck, with space for the bikes, and everything else. There are vertical slots for a folding table and 2 chairs. Street side has a deck 19.5” above the bed with storage for the camp stove and propane bottles, screen room, another chair etc on top. There is a hatch in it to access the area below, where the tools, telescoping ladder, shop vac, power tools, generator, etc get stowed. The generator is easily accessed through an opening next to the bikes. There is also a bait tray ( a plastic tub about 18”x 26” x 11” used to carry lobster bait) with a plywood top.. this gets filled with sea shells, fossils, shark teeth, rocks, pine cones and who all knows what else along the way. The top enables us to store things on top of it. All of this slides out easily to the tailgate with a boat hook. The big cooler slides under the deck behind it. The bikes, which were the cause of all this, back into the curbside of the bed standing up. You can see the plywood receivers I made for the back tires to help hold them upright, and they get strapped to the side of the bed. I can get our water jugs and other stuff on that side as well. I can have the whole contraption disassembled in about 15 minutes.. This is a prototypical project, we will give it a try this winter, redesign as needed next summer, rebuild it with more attractive material than CDX plywood and scrap lumber... You are amazing!!! We don't don't have plans, as of yet, to put a cap on our pickup bed; hoping our 1up rack will work with a dual hitch adapter and we can have a tonneau cover. Will know in a month or so (delivery December 7). If the bike rack doesn't work out, a storage solution, such as yours would make a great Winter project! 1 Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 1UP-USA Heavy-duty bike rack 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Mcb,I don’t see two unmolested bikes fitting into that narrow slot. Do you rotate the handlebars so they face fore and aft? Remove the front wheels? Do you add foam padding and strap the frames to each other? I also don’t understand how you can possibly get to the generator when all that stuff is loaded. It seems to me that a gennie has to be near the back, possibly on a slide so it can be run out onto the tailgate. I would very much like to see a few pictures please. Thank you. John Davies Spokane WA Edited November 4, 2020 by John E Davies "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II NARV (Not An RV) Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/john-e-davies-how-to-threads-and-tech-articles-links/ Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 33" LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainiac Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 A bike rack on the front of the vehicle makes sense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The front tires are removed, forks turned sideways. The bikes are beaters, so being lashed in fine.. not worried about scratches, just don’t want shifting gear in transit. The generator is easily accessed with the bikes and one chair removed, which would most likely be the case if I need it anyway, as we’d have camp set up. I can crawl up in there and haul it out without issue. We plan on using the generator far less than we did with our Casita and it’s single group 27 battery. I have the option to put the generator behind the cooler where it would be easy to rig up a way to slide it in and out and rework the stowing of other gear. As I said, this winter will be a trial run for us on many levels.. next summer will be one full of design, modification, and tweaking of the truck and new camper. 1 1 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray and Susan Huff Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, John E Davies said: Mcb,I don’t see two unmolested bikes fitting into that narrow slot. Do you rotate the handlebars so they face fore and aft? Remove the front wheels? Do you add foam padding and strap the frames to each other? I also don’t understand how you can possibly get to the generator when all that stuff is loaded. It seems to me that a gennie has to be near the back, possibly on a slide so it can be run out onto the tailgate. I would very much like to see a few pictures please. Thank you. John Davies Spokane WA Yes . . . . can you possibly post a picture of the bikes loaded. Our pickup is a long bed, so perhaps the wheels won't need to be removed. The long bed also poses the problem of how to reach cargo up by the cab. Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 1UP-USA Heavy-duty bike rack 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Mainiac said: A bike rack on the front of the vehicle makes sense too. Sure does.. but I’ve been listening to the humming, whining, and whistling of ladders, planks and various other gear lashed on top of trucks for years and while I’ve no experience with bikes on the front of the truck, it seems like a potential noise maker.. besides, designing and building stuff like this is way more fun, and a far better distraction... 20 more days til delivery day... 2 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Susan Huff said: Yes . . . . can you possibly post a picture of the bikes loaded. Our pickup is a long bed, so perhaps the wheels won't need to be removed. The long bed also poses the problem of how to reach cargo up by the cab. Sure, it’ll be a few days. One advantage of removing the wheels is being able to turn the handlebars, which means the bikes are occupying a much narrower footprint. 1 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainiac Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Mcb said: 20 more days til delivery day. That went quick. At least here. Thanksgiving on the road. A frozen turkey dinner, and a can of cranberry sauce, only trouble...no left overs. Stay safe and enjoy... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted November 4, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Mcb said: 20 more days til delivery day... Not long, now! Good luck, and safe travels! 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. Dc compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray and Susan Huff Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Mcb said: Sure does.. but I’ve been listening to the humming, whining, and whistling of ladders, planks and various other gear lashed on top of trucks for years and while I’ve no experience with bikes on the front of the truck, it seems like a potential noise maker.. besides, designing and building stuff like this is way more fun, and a far better distraction... 20 more days til delivery day... You have a few days on us . . . . 32 days and counting. Look for our Elite II, Hull #699. It will be the one without the TV antenna 😀 1 Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 1UP-USA Heavy-duty bike rack 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Mainiac said: That went quick. At least here. Thanksgiving on the road. A frozen turkey dinner, and a can of cranberry sauce, only trouble...no left overs. Stay safe and enjoy... We’ve got a few blue potatoes from the garden and we’ll pick the last of the Brussels sprouts to bring with us before we push off. Grab some Turkey someplace, rotisserie chicken, something like that.. Thanksgiving at David Crockett in a new Oliver with plenty to be thankful for...sounds kind of perfect to me.. 2 1 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray and Susan Huff Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 5:33 PM, Mcb said: We’ve got a few blue potatoes from the garden and we’ll pick the last of the Brussels sprouts to bring with us before we push off. Grab some Turkey someplace, rotisserie chicken, something like that.. Thanksgiving at David Crockett in a new Oliver with plenty to be thankful for...sounds kind of perfect to me.. Great way to spend Thanksgiving . . . . . we're picking the last of the tomatoes . . . . . still have carrots and green onions in the ground. Beginning to put the garden to bed for the winter. I'm going to miss the fresh vegetables! 2 Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 1UP-USA Heavy-duty bike rack 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcb Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 3:25 PM, Susan Huff said: Yes . . . . can you possibly post a picture of the bikes loaded. Our pickup is a long bed, so perhaps the wheels won't need to be removed. The long bed also poses the problem of how to reach cargo up by the cab. Here’s a couple of pictures of the bikes loaded 1 Mark & Deb..2020 Elite II..Dearie..Hull #685..2016 Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray and Susan Huff Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mcb said: Here’s a couple of pictures of the bikes loaded I see . . . . . the front wheel must be removed since the handle bars wouldn't clear the top of the cap. We like to carry our bikes with both wheels attached. I'm hoping our bike rack solution will work. Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 1UP-USA Heavy-duty bike rack 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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