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Is there any advantage to a 3,000 Xantrex watt inverter over the 2,000 watt model other than perhaps occasional, short-duration use of the A/C using lithium battery power?  

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Of course with a 1,000 more watts you can always run more "stuff" at the same time .

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The one really main feature is you can use up your battery reserves 50% faster, which is a huge issue if you do not have access to shore power or a sizable generator to recharge. I am a fan of “less is better” when it comes to power hungry accessories..... I would toss our microwave but my spouse forbids it.

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Fritz, there isn't much of a difference between the XC 2000 Pro and the XC 3000 Pro. Even the retail price difference between the two is small - something around $200 if I remember correctly.

I do know that the 2021 uses a different power distribution panel if you get the Pro package (including the XC 3000). Obviously the wiring will differ as well since it can't handle the AC. It is possible the 2022 models have a more unified panel but the details haven't been made public that I'm aware of. Upgrading to the XC 3000 without lithium was not an option when I asked. I suspect this is more about decreasing factory assembly line complexity than anything else.

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1 hour ago, John E Davies said:

The one really main feature is you can use up your battery reserves 50% faster, which is a huge issue if you do not have access to shore power or a sizable generator to recharge. I am a fan of “less is better” when it comes to power hungry accessories..... I would toss our microwave but my spouse forbids it.

John Davies

Spokane WA

We ditched our microwave,  as I  live easily without it 

But, now that you are upgrading to lithium, you may actually enjoy the convenience of the microwave,  in short bursts.

Nice to reheat soups or stews, without dirtying a pan you later have to wash, and then use water 💧.

It's all a dance --boondocking. Water/power/solar, etc.

I know I spend a lot more time and thought on power management,  water management,  chasing the sun with our portable panel, etc. and even simple tasks like cooking and cleaning, when camping.

But, I actually enjoy that. Not everyone does. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SeaDawg said:

We ditched our microwave,  as I  live easily without it 

But, now that you are upgrading to lithium, you may actually enjoy the convenience of the microwave,  in short bursts.

The 2022 models no longer have a storage box option so the decision to get a microwave is easy 😁

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To answer the original question, I think we’ve actually gotten an overload alarm once even with a 3000 watt inverter - maybe coffeemaker plus hairdryer or something like that. Point being that you adjust your camping lifestyle to what you’ve got. 3000 watts isn’t at all necessary, but if you’ve got it you’ll probably get used to using it. 

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3 minutes ago, Overland said:

Is the only option now the number of axles?

Hah! I was surprised to see it removed from the build sheet but I'm guessing it was removed due to lack of customer demand.

I'm happy to have picked one up with the box option though...

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4 hours ago, John E Davies said:

I am a fan of “less is better” when it comes to power hungry accessories..

Thank you for all of your comments.  I agree that "less might be better" -- we have not yet decided on the microwave (that cabinet could be a good spot for storing the instant pot instead).  But how many of you have (or perhaps would have if you had the larger inverter and sufficient battery power) run the A/C for short periods of time, taking a short respite from the heat on a hot summer day? 

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5 hours ago, John E Davies said:

The one really main feature is you can use up your battery reserves 50% faster, which is a huge issue if you do not have access to shore power or a sizable generator to recharge. I am a fan of “less is better” when it comes to power hungry accessories..... I would toss our microwave but my spouse forbids it.

John Davies

Spokane WA

I'm a fan of less is better accessories, too.  It's just that having all that power gives me the good feeling of knowing I can use it if need be.  I suppose that's an expensive good feeling . . . . . I mostly like the elimination of some of the battery SOC worries. 

Reminds me of the Eagles song . . . . . you all know what I mean.

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2 hours ago, Jairon said:

The 2022 models no longer have a storage box option so the decision to get a microwave is easy 😁

I'm glad we were able to opt for the extra storage.  For us, it is much more useful than the microwave we mostly used to heat coffee and defrost meat!  I love my storage cabinet 😍

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Just remember - it is rather difficult to quickly get that bag of fresh popcorn by just leaving it sit inside that "storage box".☺️

 

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20 hours ago, Fritz said:

Is there any advantage to a 3,000 Xantrex watt inverter over the 2,000 watt model other than perhaps occasional, short-duration use of the A/C using lithium battery power?

Back to the original posted question.  The Oliver website shows that the 2000 watt inverter is the "2000 Watt Xantrex Freedom XC Inverter" but only mentions the 3000 watt option as "3000 Watt Inverter". Are both options using the Freedom XC Pro or is the 2000 watt the non Pro model?  Xantrex's website shows that there are are both XC Pro 2000 and 3000 watt rated inverters, however, there is also a Freedom XC (non-Pro) rated at 2000 watts which indicates there may be other differences beside the rated capacities.

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59 minutes ago, mjrendon said:

Are both options using the Freedom XC Pro or is the 2000 watt the non Pro model?

You should obviously check with your sales rep but I believe Oliver has completely switched over to the XC Pro models; 2000 or 3000 depending on which package you buy. The Freedom XC was used in years past.

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From looking at the Oliver University manuals I see these inverters mentioned. The 2021 updates have not been posted yet.

  • 2020
    • Xantrex Freedom XC Pro 3000
    • Xantrex Freedom XC 2000
  • 2019 - 2015
    • Xantrex PROwatt 2000 Inverter
  • 2014
    • not mentioned
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5 hours ago, topgun2 said:

Just remember - it is rather difficult to quickly get that bag of fresh popcorn by just leaving it sit inside that "storage box".☺️

 

Bill

Who remembers Jiffy Pop?  Do they still make it?

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Yes - they still do make Jiffy Pop and it is as good as it ever was ☹️.

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3 minutes ago, topgun2 said:

Yes - they still do make Jiffy Pop and it is as good as it ever was ☹️.

Bill

Do you mean that it still burns and produces soggy popcorn?  That's what I recall.  You just can't beat stove top popcorn made in a cast iron Dutch oven, with coconut oil and fresh popcorn, of course!

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