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I decided to weigh my trailer because there is a lot of discussion. I have a set of scales I use to do weight and Ballance on Aircraft and they are very accurate. I did a quick and dirty weight but will re do it on the hanger floor in another week fully loaded. The  trailer is a 2022 LEII with solar, lithium a convection microwave and two full 30 Gallon propane tanks. At the moment it is still winterized so it has no water. We have a Lavio toilet so there is no black tank water. It is loaded and ready to go with everything we travel with less the 240pounds of fresh water. The trailer weighs in at 5,220 pound add the fresh water and we are at 5,460 pounds. The weight on the tongue is 509 lbs. I plan to re weigh it with the fresh water full to see if it changes the tongue weight. So that’s it in a nut shell. Before someone comments I put the trailer back down level on the tires and moved the load cell under the trailer ball to get the tongue weight, I did not take a picture of it.

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That would put you under the recommended tongue weight of 10-15% for stability. Interestingly, our very inaccurate WeighSafe hitch also reads just under 10% of our total weight. I really need to get onto some Cat Scales. OTOH, not sure how to remedy this. I have already tried to pack as much weight as possible toward the front of the trailer to bring our tongue weight up. FWIW, the trailer has been stable so far.

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I was thinking the same thing but I have not had any funny feelings towing it all seems pretty stable to me. With that said I’ve only towed about 1,500 miles to date. I also have two full 30 gallon propane tanks so that adds weight up front. like I said I’m going to fill my fresh water tank and re weigh it, maybe it will put weight up front. I also  usually have two bicycles on the back which will move weight back. With in a week or so I will weigh it again with bikes, water and make sure my propane is topped off and see how much things change.

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LE2 Ollies tow just fine with a TW lighter than 10%. The caveat being that your tires and suspension must be in good shape. Worn out bushings, worn tires and blown shocks are very bad news for stability. 

The last time I measured, my TW was 480 lbs with an “estimated” normal camping weight of 6000.

I do not recall any Ollie owner ever mentioning instability, nor an accident caused by sway...

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Thanks for posting, this is very cool! But %^*+! 😉 Please put a soft cotton towel under your whale tail. Or suspend it with a bungee cord under the coupler hole. Half of that Andersen weight is carried by the truck, after all.…. I used to weigh light aircraft, it was a task I greatly enjoyed. More than greasing the gear and wheel bearings. If you don’t mind, please post a pic of your hanger and what’s inside.

As far as redoing it all on your hanger floor goes, why bother? It’s a trailer, not a piano. As I was told more than once by my supervisors, perfect isn’t needed, just good enough. As an anal compulsive that is hard to hear, and much harder to do.

I can’t wait until I see your rearranged trailer wiring. LOL, here is my new compressor fridge digital control harness….. Isotherm’s “solution” during my initial smoke test:

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And my solution to their solution:

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We need more aircraft techs participating in this forum. I was lamenting to myself that I no longer have access to an avionics wire marking tool.

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On 3/24/2023 at 10:34 PM, Bill and Nancy said:

I was thinking the same thing but I have not had any funny feelings towing it all seems pretty stable to me. With that said I’ve only towed about 1,500 miles to date. I also have two full 30 gallon propane tanks so that adds weight up front. like I said I’m going to fill my fresh water tank and re weigh it, maybe it will put weight up front. I also  usually have two bicycles on the back which will move weight back. With in a week or so I will weigh it again with bikes, water and make sure my propane is topped off and see how much things change.

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I thought some people might find this interesting for what is worth. With gray and black water empty I filled my fresh water tank to capacity and it added 43 pounds to the tongue. It went from 509 lbs to 552 ponds. I then put my bike receiver and mountain bikes on the rear bumper a total weight of 88 pounds and the tongue weight went down to 508 lbs a 44 pound difference. I was surprised the bikes made that much difference. It goes to show where you put the weight can make a big difference in the CG.

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1 hour ago, Bill and Nancy said:

It goes to show where you put the weight can make a big difference in the CG.

A "fulcrum " is a wonderful thing.

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In the comments on tongue weight, nobody has mentioned cargo or generators mounted in the tongue storage basket. Are any of the mentioned tongue weights including significant weight in the basket?

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4 hours ago, Ollie-Haus said:

In the comments on tongue weight, nobody has mentioned cargo or generators mounted in the tongue storage basket. Are any of the mentioned tongue weights including significant weight in the basket?

We have carried our Yamaha EF3000iSEB 3000 Watt Generator in the front basket for the past 15 years. It weighs well over 150 pounds when fueled. I can easily lift it by myself and place it into the basket!  😊

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On 3/25/2023 at 10:28 AM, John E Davies said:

Thanks for posting, this is very cool! But %^*+! 😉 Please put a soft cotton towel under your whale tail. Or suspend it with a bungee cord under the coupler hole. Half of that Andersen weight is carried by the truck, after all.…. I used to weigh light aircraft, it was a task I greatly enjoyed. More than greasing the gear and wheel bearings. If you don’t mind, please post a pic of your hanger and what’s inside.

As far as redoing it all on your hanger floor goes, why bother? It’s a trailer, not a piano. As I was told more than once by my supervisors, perfect isn’t needed, just good enough. As an anal compulsive that is hard to hear, and much harder to do.

I can’t wait until I see your rearranged trailer wiring. LOL, here is my new compressor fridge digital control harness….. Isotherm’s “solution” during my initial smoke test:

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And my solution to their solution:

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We need more aircraft techs participating in this forum. I was lamenting to myself that I no longer have access to an avionics wire marking tool.

John Davies

Spokane WA

Nice work John.  Even us non-A&P's can do reasonably nice work too, I think...

Dymo Rhino heat shrink tubing label makers are pretty inexpensive.  I sprung for one for security system labeling and ended up using it on the two airplane builds.

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4 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

We have carried our Yamaha EF3000iSEB 3000 Watt Generator in the front basket for the past 15 years. It weighs well over 150 pounds when fueled. I can easily lift it by myself and place it into the basket!  😊

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Gotta love a mini hoist along with the TV where tongue weight is not a concern with the gen basket loaded. Nice work!

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5 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

We have carried our Yamaha EF3000iSEB 3000 Watt Generator in the front basket for the past 15 years. It weighs well over 150 pounds when fueled. I can easily lift it by myself and place it into the basket!  😊

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That's a nice demonstration of how not to strain one's back. Very nice setup. Do you know roughly how this effects tongue weight. Some of the comments indicated they were a little bit lite on tongue weight. This seems it would put you up in the good range. Thanks!

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On 3/25/2023 at 5:28 PM, John E Davies said:

Thanks for posting, this is very cool! But %^*+! 😉 Please put a soft cotton towel under your whale tail. Or suspend it with a bungee cord under the coupler hole. Half of that Andersen weight is carried by the truck, after all.…. I used to weigh light aircraft, it was a task I greatly enjoyed. More than greasing the gear and wheel bearings. If you don’t mind, please post a pic of your hanger and what’s inside.

As far as redoing it all on your hanger floor goes, why bother? It’s a trailer, not a piano. As I was told more than once by my supervisors, perfect isn’t needed, just good enough. As an anal compulsive that is hard to hear, and much harder to do.

I can’t wait until I see your rearranged trailer wiring. LOL, here is my new compressor fridge digital control harness….. Isotherm’s “solution” during my initial smoke test:

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And my solution to their solution:

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We need more aircraft techs participating in this forum. I was lamenting to myself that I no longer have access to an avionics wire marking tool.

John Davies

Spokane WA

Probably more pilots than A/C Techs in the forum - so, as we break 'em - you fix 'em, eh?  Ha!

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On 3/25/2023 at 10:28 AM, John E Davies said:

Thanks for posting, this is very cool! But %^*+! 😉 Please put a soft cotton towel under your whale tail. Or suspend it with a bungee cord under the coupler hole. Half of that Andersen weight is carried by the truck, after all.…. I used to weigh light aircraft, it was a task I greatly enjoyed. More than greasing the gear and wheel bearings. If you don’t mind, please post a pic of your hanger and what’s inside.

As far as redoing it all on your hanger floor goes, why bother? It’s a trailer, not a piano. As I was told more than once by my supervisors, perfect isn’t needed, just good enough. As an anal compulsive that is hard to hear, and much harder to do.

I can’t wait until I see your rearranged trailer wiring. LOL, here is my new compressor fridge digital control harness….. Isotherm’s “solution” during my initial smoke test:

40F6EDF7-C925-44A6-B10F-9794556453BB.thumb.jpeg.8dfd09a194292490659a5bda17e73a2c.jpeg

And my solution to their solution:

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We need more aircraft techs participating in this forum. I was lamenting to myself that I no longer have access to an avionics wire marking tool.

John Davies

Spokane WA

Not an aircraft tech, but a machinist and all around DIYer by necessity that has a proclivity for detail. This is the upgrade panel for our retirement remodel we're preparing to move into. My wife giggled when she saw this. The county inspector just grinned real big and asked, "Your work?". My electrician buddy from work just said, "Nice!".  The panel it replaced was full of mud dobber nests and looked like a bird nest. I feel better now. 😉 

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One of the "nice" things about retirement is having the time to do things the way that they actually should be done.

I've found that taking "short-cuts" actually tends to cost more in the long run.

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10 hours ago, Ollie-Haus said:

That's a nice demonstration of how not to strain one's back. Very nice setup. Do you know roughly how this effects tongue weight. Some of the comments indicated they were a little bit lite on tongue weight. This seems it would put you up in the good range. Thanks!

I've not checked my tongue weight in a while. I had my Sherline out earlier today to weigh the tongue weight on our daughter's new trailer, It was less than 100 pounds,

Steve, Tali and our dog Rocky plus our beloved Storm, Maggie, Lucy and Reacher (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge)

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