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[postquote quote=180897][/postquote] The easiest way to do it would be to close the shower back-flow valve. Cover the shower drain with duct tape (it may still leak back a little.) Remove the cover from the vent pipe on the outside top of the trailer. Mix up the disinfectant of your choice (several gallons.) Pour it down the vent tube. Let it sit for a while. Open the shower back-flow valve and let it drain into your gray tank. I’d then fill the gray tank on up with water and disinfectant a let it sit overnight. Empty gray tank and flush with fresh water. Or, if you can get some of those trained mice...

We looked at the Lance too. We were very interested and they were in the running, but we saw the Oliver the very next month and once we saw the factory tour and joined the forum, we were sold. We put our order in before we left TN. We attended the rally in Alabama this year even though we had just put our first deposit down and we are even more convinced after visiting with folks and hearing their experiences, good and bad, and realizing the strength of the Oliver Family. We can't wait to pick up our unit in September.

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Thanks! A bit extreme but decided to get a new truck. 2017 ram 3500 Laramie Limited mega cab. I missed my ram dually I had before. I may need to use the rear camera to make sure Ollie still there. :) So I'll be using a BW stow and go. The truck hitch is right at 23 inches. Does anyone think a receiver with 7 inch drop is too much or should I go for the 5 inch one? Thanks Greg

I have a Champion 3400 Dual Fuel inverter Generator. It’s quiet but heavy (94lbs). I’ve been carrying it with us a backup for solar and haven’t really needed it. It has less than 10 hours runtime. While at Tractor Supply yesterday I noticed they had the smaller Champion 2000 on sale for $399. It’s gas only, 38lbs, 2000w startup and 1700w running and is quieter than the big one at 53dba. So, I picked one up and put my big one up for sale. As a backup the smaller one makes more sense.

To clarify a prior post, there is a flow restrictor in the water line going to the bathroom faucet, to remove it you just unscrew the shower head from the flexible water line, the restrictor is in the end of the hose, I just pried it out with a small screwdriver and reattached the shower head. Steve

[postquote quote=179913][/postquote] Hi Mirna, Welcome aboard! As John mentioned, please fill out your profile so we can see where you are and more about what you will be doing, or what your interests are. Probably everyone here is biased toward fiberglass, and for good reasons. One very obvious weak link with the Lance is the rubber roof. These are very vulnerable to mechanical damage, will fail over time from the sun, and can cause very serious water damage to the structure when they do fail. Having a slide-out gives a lot of interior room, but can be drafty and make the trailer hard to heat. They also seriously reduce the useful interior space when in. So if you stop on the road for the night, you may have to deploy it just too get from one end to the other. When traveling, that would become a problem. I had one in an "Extreme Edition" Fleetwood and we went through a lot of propane trying to overcome the drafts and stay warm. Olivers are streamlined, the roofs can not fail, they have good insulation. Look where the jack is on the front of the Lance and compare that to the Oliver jack location. You can open the tailgate of your truck, while connected, with an Oliver. Not so much with so many other common designs that use the same jack location, right next to the coupler. Be sure to check the cabinet material. Is is just stapled together pressboard with a friction catch? Or do they have a positive latch? How many batteries are included? Olivers have (4) batteries located over the axle. Look at the plumbing for the black and gray tank drain. Is it hanging down where it can get knocked off on a curb or a rock? Oliver plumbing is all up inside in a closed compartment at the rear bumper. If the cost is helping to drive the decision, look in the classifieds for a used Oliver. I know of at least one in there that is a very good deal. They hold their value much better than a Lance, because they can be used for generations if desired.

Mirna, for its type that Lance isn’t too bad, you could probably get a well optioned one for $40,000, well below the base price of the bigger Ollie. But they are really apples and oranges, the build quality, materials, warranty, resale value and above all customer service are nowhere as good. It does have big tanks, which is good, but that means extra weight to tow. The slideout is a very bad thing for a number of reasons, the optional solar package is too small and the twin batteries are only adequate. The rubber axles and tires are budget items, For boondocking you need ample solar and battery capacity, a composting toilet, enclosed tanks and waste systems, rugged suspension, and ample ground clearance. The Ollie excels at this sort of camping. The Lance could work, but it isn’t really meant for this. No offense, but nobody here is going to recommend a conventional mass produced low quality trailer over a high quality hand built Oliver legacy trailer, which is intended to last decades and be passed onto future generations. I would be surprised if that Lance lasted five years of moderate use. Have you looked at an Ollie in person? That is the first thing you should do at this stage, a half hour of poking around will answer so many of your questions. A F250 will pull either trailer without working hard, no worries. If buying a new one, consider waiting for the brand new 7.3 liter gas engine, it sounds as if it will be great. Welcome to the forum. Fill out your personal details, and tell us where you want to boondock. John Davies Spokane WA

Fool the thermostat with a bag of frozen vegetables held up to it for a couple of minutes. They have to be organic baby peas or it will not work. It’s right there in the owners booklet. Sheeesh.... Kids these days know nothing. John Davies Spokane WA