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I did not find an Oliver supplied socket when we purchased our older hull used. It certainly 3/4” for our wheels.

Due to popular demand, I will again be collecting and distributing a list of attendees and their campsite location. I did this the first year we attended just so that I could put faces to names from the forum and Facebook groups. But it turned out that others liked the idea, too, so I brought copies to the event. So here we go again. If you are interested in participating, please comment below with: Site Number, Forum Name (if applicable), First Name(s), State, Trailer "Name", and Hull Number Example: G23, Steve Morris, Steve and Deb, Ohio, "Curiosity", 1360 The final list of attendees and sites will be posted the weekend before the event, and I'll bring copies with us if needed. NOTE: This list is in no way authorized, encouraged, or associated with Oliver Travel Trailers. This is only for the convenience of attendees. (photo from Oliver Travel Trailer's previous event web site)

Hi all and thank you all for the good advice in getting a professional to put them in for me. I could easily have dropped a battery. Yiks and then got burned with battery acid ! I just picked my Ollie up from my local trailer place (it is actually a horse trailer repair place I use but same principles) and got the new 2X 230Ah batteries installed. They fit perfectly in the battery tray. Very pleased!

Possibly due to various threads here on the Forum - a fair number of owners have replaced the original lug nuts on "older" Ollies. My 2016 was delivered with a lug socket and wrench (this wrench had a neat collapsible handle on it and has been use to move the Andersen whale tail attachment point into the correct position on more than one occasion). But, I replaced the original lug nuts several years ago and now use a "deep" 3/4 inch socket with a proper torque wrench. Bill p.s. Mike - they always liked me best anyway!😁

Ours from Oliver was a double sided socket with 3/4 on one side.

JD Great News. Cancelled Xantrex. Ordered Victron MP with Cerbo GX and GX 5” Touch screen. It will arrive Wednesday. Pulled the plug on 3rd 280/300 LOL Watt Cycle Lithium and I’m in process to Boondock. Thanks again for getting me on the right path. Gary

Thanks the vendor opens at 9am and I’ll call first think to switch to Victron. Good news is they are also a Victron Dealer.

Ours is used as well so maybe that is where it happened. Was still in the plastic bag so assumed it was original but bag was not sealed. Either way thanks for saying what yours is. Off to get one tomorrow.

@Teaney Hull 292 yes you could mount them all sideways. When I thought of mounting 3, I was thinking the first two in with terminals out may be easier to wire vs. having the first pair of terminals deep inside. Either way fits, you’ll figure it out. I’m not knowledgeable enough on Xantrex to suggest cancelling your order. There are many others here with the 3KW Xantrex who could chime in on their benefits. I read here about others that moved to Victron and their good reputation in the boating world. Now that I have one, it’s been flawless and quiet (under my bed)! It can withstand providing 120V output way greater than the spec numbers too. Like when I turned the A/C on while the hot water heater was also running on 120VAC. It kept both running, no blown fuses! We also like having an all Victron house (see app picture). Either choice, the wiring is the same. Xantrex would not be easier than Victron unless its size is smaller, don’t know. The Victron MPII is 20” long, must be mounted sideways. I removed the same Xantrex 2KW inverter-only model that you have now. You’re Learning a lot and also getting a lot done! Best wishes, JD

Hey Steve, nice of you to do this again this season. Site G34, Ollie-Haus, Chris and Stacie along with Hallie and Cohen, from Indiana traveling in Ollie-Haus which is #1373.

I have spent the weekend getting the trailer ready for the new season. As part of this, I decided to check the torque of the lug nuts. Per the owner's manual, they should be 110 foot pounds. So I grabbed my torque wrench bar and the Oliver-provided socket of 13/16, and to my surprise the 13/16 slips right off the bolt when I try and tighten, or loosen, any lug nuts (I tried multiple tires and lug nuts). Did Oliver really provide me the wrong size socket head?! What do others have? If you have a 13/16 have you used it successfully on a lugnut? What am I missing here? It seems I need a 3/4 socket head (sadly, I don't have one yet to verify it will work fine), but I'm shocked the socket head that came with my trailer will not work on the lugnuts on said trailer! Very happy I did not need it last season and happy I am testing this out while it sits on the side of my house! Hoping I am missing something here, and I can chalk this up to being dumb about this.

You're welcome Gary. Keep in mind there is the original Victron Multiplus (MP) and more recently the Multiplus II (MP2). Mike who started this thread and I both went with the MP2. One member who was first went with the older model MP since the MP2 had not yet been on the market. They are both very good, but the MP2 is more efficient and uses less power on standby. I supplied a link before for the MP2 and I believe you went that way. Earlier I explained that you did not need the UL tested model required for residential. The MP is shorter but comes off the wall 9-10" The MP2 is 20" long and about 6" deep making it a good fit for under the bed sideways. Mike and I installed under the streetside bed. Another member installed, I think the MP (vs. MP2) under the front dinette seat. In our hull the front dinette is for Chris where she keeps dogfood and coffee, TP and other stuff. Mike used adhesive to glue a mounting board as you can see in the first 1-2 pages of this thread. I built a foundation as you can see in the link below. Mike and I believe everybody else added the Cerbo and touch screen. I went without it and ordered this simple Bluetooth device. The screens are cool, but I went without the extra costs and drilling more holes in the hull. You can connect to a screen AND/OR use this to connect by Bluetooth. Either will allow you to turn on/off the MP2. Once installed and confugured there is no need to touch the hardware again unless make future mods. https://www.amazon.com/Victron-VE-Bus-Dongle-Multiplus-Inverter/dp/B07FCV43LQ/

Any recommendations for campsites in the New York finger lakes area?

I don’t recall getting a lug socket when we picked up our trailer new in 2016. Mike

E25, Roger, Roger, Georgia, "Kimba", 1023

G25, Shawna and Scott, Ohio Discovery Hull 1182. Looking forward to seeing everyone!!

The Killer Dogs😊🐾🐾

Site G35 Hull #634 “XPLOR” - aka Patriot 🇺🇸 David & Kathy from Western North Carolina. Safe Travels! Here is a CG map of LGSP -

OUCH. Thought it would be easier to replace the 2000 watt Xantrex with the 3000 Xantrex. Just ordered this weekend. Should I cancel and change to Victron?

We received our Mini a few days ago and started service on Friday. It's amazing that a DeWalt 20V battery is all you need to power up to use Starlink with its internal Wi-Fi. I have 5 DeWalt batteries 2-6AH, a Dewalt charger mounted in the Oliver Attic and we always bring 3-4 batteries and several DeWalt cordless tools with us. (They make a Milwaukee 18V battery connector too.) Just moved this out on our deck pointing north and it connected quickly. Created our $50 account and quickly configured the Starlink Wi-Fi. Ran a few Ookla speed tests at home and got 120-130 Mbps down and 15-20 up, certainly acceptable! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DM1T6VX2?ref=fed_asin_title&th=1 Yesterday we drove to the far NW corner of the Prescott NF west of Walnut Creek. There was no cell service the last 20 miles of dirt road. Again, it connected quickly and is so easy to align with the Alignment feature. I wasn't too fond of the Obstructions feature since with the bright sun it's hard to see your phone screen, but obstructions are obvious. For now it's just sitting on the truck toolbox, but if you look closely at the cables going up to the roof, you can see I've already wired the truck, but I still have work to do on the rooftop mount. I will start a build thread on all that when finished. The Mini does take some juice. I started with a 4AH battery which it consumed in a couple of hours. Then I connected my big HD 20/60V 6AH battery and it lasted for over 5 hours streaming TV, battery dead when I got back out in the morning. With a bit of camping usage, 2 phones, my laptop and TV, I figure we will use 10 GB per 24 hour day out on the road. So the $50 package will be fine when we camp for a week or a couple of 3-day weekends and not bad when over at $1/GB. For the month-long trips the unlimited package would be the way. Out here with minimal radio waves (only a couple of strong FM stations come in) and no electrical interference, I'm getting 140 Mbps down and 22 up on a bright sunny day in the forest. Very nice!

Update on my installation of the Victron Orion XS 50A DC-DC charger. I believe this suggests frame mounting the ground on the TV works fine and saves purchase of another 15-20 ft of expensive 4 AWG copper! The picture tells the whole story. The charger set to the max 50A charge setting outputted 47.4 amps. I took this picture just 50 yards out of our driveway, climbing up our steep road as soon as the RPMs got up to the high teens. 40A at idle and near the full 50A while towing! Our batteries were near full SOC so the charger soon geared down to less than 10A. After 3 days Boondocking in the Prescott NF, batteries at a lower SOC, we’ll see how many AHs are gained driving home, a 90+ minute drive. Solar should handle the Dometic fridge on DC and the Orion should produce a net increase in SOC.

Your link was not working for me but I did find the Amazon listing for these WattCycle batteries. I had seen them before, nor the Will Prowse video. Now I get why sometimes you wrote 280AH and other times 300AH! https://www.amazon.com/WattCycle-280Ah-LiFePO4-Lithium-Battery/dp/B0DS48GH5F/?th=1 The 2-pack is a good savings over buying two individually. The 3-pack is the same price as buying 3 singles. If you go for 3, buy a 2-pack and an extra single! Who knows about the effect of tariffs, but all LiFePO4 components even in the "assembled" in USA batteries come from China, and China has had steep tariffs since the first Trump Admin (was 25% now adding another 10%? something like this). China manipulates their currency anyway to be competitive in pricing. These batteries are 15.1" long, 7.6" wide, so two of these will not fit in the 14x21" battery tray. For this reason and reputation many of us have gone with the 300AH Epoch that are 13.6" long which fits in the tray. Your choice is half the cost though. Without the tray, my battery bay floor is 18x24" but certainly measure yours as it could be different! Without the tray you could fit three, two put in first length-wise and the third sideways. Running the cables to 3 will not be fun without the tray and you will need to make custom length cables. You'd have to wire and tighten up the bolts on the first two, push them in and then mount and wire the third. You will also have to figure out a way to strap them down OR cut spacers to fit around and snug them like I did with wood studs. Others prefer using plastic so to have no wood in the Oliver except for the kitchen drawers! The ONLY install we've seen installing batteries without the tray is Mike's @rideadeuce where he installed 2 HUGE 460AH special Epochs which filled every available square inch in the bay, where they have no possible room to move. I forget if he added anything extra to secure them, but you would have to with 3 batteries not filling the space. Maybe you could find a metal or plastic tray just less than the 18x24" space to help. At least line the shelf bottom with rubber as Mike did. Hope this helps and do have fun!

@Dennis and Melissa Just a thought --- you have 7 nights planned at Dead Horse SP to visit Canyonlands and Arches. Both are amazing and Dead Horse is the best reserve campground for visiting Canyonlands and not too far from Arches. It's a good plan but one suggestion I might make is to use the app Campflare and see if a cancelation might pop up for Devil's Garden Campground inside Arches NP. Devil's Garden may be the most difficult to get campground in all of the national parks. It books up within seconds of the 6 month booking window. It does not have hookups, however. I put a notification request in Campflare last fall and scored a cancelation with a few weeks notice -- they do happen. If you were to score a site at Devil's Garden, it puts you deep inside the park in one of the most spectacular areas of scenery with a couple of the best hikes starting right from the campground. You wake up with an unbelievable sunrise right there. The photos attached are of the campground. The arch photo at sunrise is 100 yards from the campground (you can see RVs in the distance on left side of the photo). Dead Horse SP is very nice and centrally located but the campground is kinda out in the middle of sagebrush and you have to drive to get to hikes and views. Already being inside the park camping at Devils Garden means your're already there -- avoiding the lines at park entry and you are already there for the most awesome time in the park which is sunset/early mornings and late evening/sunset. Regardless, my biggest suggestion would be to plan on being in both parks early and late. The light is amazing and makes for unforgettable experiences. If you stay the whole time at Dead Horse SP, you will still have an amazing time!

Plans changed a bit, but… We finally made it to Dead Horse Ranch SP in Sedona! Here are some interesting tidbits from the last two weeks of traveling: 1) Ollie’s first annual service at the mothership was great (but not cheap🤪) 2) Merriweather B&B was great as always (and actually cheap with the 10% Oliver discount 😀) 3) Mt Magazine SP is wonderful and the lodge is stunning 4) Quartz Mtn SP is great (especially hiking around Mt Baldy) 5) Palo Duro SP is a wonder. We will be back. Maybe for a full week next time. 6) Petrified Forest NP is a wonder. Even if you somehow removed all the petrified wood, it would still be one of the best NPs I’ve seen. One day was not enough. 7) Question: on cold, windy, rainy nights, with the heater running, how do you let fresh air in? Everything we tried seemed to get something wet that shouldn’t be. 8 ) THE STREET SIDE JACK STOPPED WORKING WHEN WE ARRIVED IN SEDONA! Thanks to the wonderful Oliver documentation I was able to fix it. Just a loose connection. But working in that space (especially trying to check the inline fuses, the likes of which I had never seen before) was a job for a circus contortionist 🤪

If Garmin only knew - even you with that Japanese fishing pole might be able to land a couple.😇

Next task was to build a platform for the MP2 to lay on it’s side and strapped to the wall. I purchased 4x4 post mounts and other Simpsom ties until it all came together. Notice the open area in the center of the first picture, rubber mat floor 4x4" in size. The area further back where the second mount would be would not take a 4x4 mount, closer to 3” width. The 4x4 in front just fit with one base tab cut off and the rear mount had to be inserted in the two parts pictured and bolted together in position. The rear mount as assembled was about 3/8” lower, so I added another layer of 3/8” HDPE board and the main board is 6x24” which you can see leveled in the last picture. I bolted strapping material to both bases prior to taping the shelf in place. Neither mount is bolted down since I did not want to penetrate the outer hull. Everything fits snuggly and the 42 LB weight of the MP2 (later) strapped above should hold it nicely.

Had to remove my hammer locks. What a PIA. My Oliver installed chain hooks wouldn't fit. Not sure what happened as I ordered what others purchased.