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Does anybody know if the black tank has ever been removed?

We should have it back in a few more days. We WILL be at the rally WITH the Outlaw Oliver. I am looking forward to seeing all our old friends and meeting lots of new ones. This event will turn out to be the best one yet. Thanks! Steve

I am getting back into the swing of things after dealing with some family issues of late. I think that there may be some confusion on what may be going on with our trailer. Please notice that my first (and, at that time, only) post in this thread was made back on 08/28/2013! So, just to bring everybody up to speed, that Outlaw Oliver was our Hull # 026 and one of the original ones built back in 2008. We were selling it in anticipation of getting our current Outlaw Oliver (Hull # 050) in early 2014. Thanks, Overland for your comment about Storm, we do miss him. Reacher, on the other hand, is now almost 5 years old and weighs nearly 100 pounds. And don't worry, the extra 18 inches is still there, the nomenclature just changed. As to what is currently happening to Hull # 050, a little history is in order so please bear with me.... After building 49 trailers between late 2007 and early 2009, the production line at Oliver Travel Trailers was shut down due to the down turn in the economy. These 49 units included 46 of the seventeen (now 18.5) foot trailers and 3 of the larger twenty two (now 23.5) foot trailers. All during this hiatus, Oliver kept saying that there would be future trailers built. And although it took almost five years, true to their word, I got a call on 03/03/2013 from then sales manager Robert Partee. He asked me if I would like to own one of their “big” trailers. At that point in time, we felt we had outgrown our smaller Elite (traveling with two adults and three dogs) and were actually considering selling the Oliver and getting (horrors) some other brand. After speaking with Robert for less than 5 minutes I stated, “I’ll take the first one you build.” and then quickly enquired as to when I might expect delivery. As it turned out it would be over a year. For anyone who does not know, this trailer is one of the first three that were in production at the same time during late 2013 and early 2014. It became the first of the Elite II’s that was sold to a customer. During the build I was at the factory at least every other week “overseeing” the work being done on our unit. During these visits I made several requests for non-standard accessories, most of which Oliver graciously agreed to. The biggest (and in retrospect, the least wise) request that I made was for the frame to be constructed with a longer than standard tongue to accommodate the generator basket that I planned to mount there. Twenty three inches was added and the Outlaw Oliver II became the first and only unit with an “extended, extendable” tongue. Fast forward to 2018. We had been on our annual winter pilgrimage to Quartzsite, AZ accompanied by mountainoliver and hardrock. On the return trip we were stopped at the Walmart in Winslow, AZ for the night and positioning our trailers with their butts into the wind in anticipation of 40-50 mph gusts that were predicted for the night. While jockeying mine into position, mountainoliver noticed something he didn’t like and when I stopped, quickly scooted up under our trailer. Coming out he grimly stated that “we have a problem.” The “problem” turned out to be cracks in both outboard A-frame members that were causing the trailer to flex at that point. The only thing holding the body of the trailer to the truck was the tongue. Progression of events since that point: I immediately called Scott Oliver and then Jim Oliver for advice. Jim Oliver drove from Lake Havasu City spending a night with us to see the damage and assist in any way. A plan of action was made that included temporary repairs locally and replacement with a new frame at the factory. We found a metal fabricator in Winslow that agreed to make the temporary repairs so we could safely get the trailer back to Hohenwald. Three days later we are on I-40 headed East. Two weeks later, after unloading at home (who carries that much stuff) we take the trailer to Hohenwald and leave it. A new frame and sub frame are built to the new standard. I go to the factory to observe the body switch. The entire trailer and old frame is lifted and placed on multiple jacks under the frame. The old running gear (Axles, Wheels and Tires) is removed from the old frame and installed on the new frame. Support blocks are placed under the body of the trailer which has been completely unattached from the frame. The old frame is lowered away from the body and rolled out. The new frame is rolled under the body and lifted into place and attached. So what happened to cause all this? Our best guess is that my longer tongue with its additional weight (200 lbs worth of generator and basket) bouncing up and down during about 50,000 miles of travel simply had too much leverage and caused additional stress at the failure points on the frame. I want everyone to understand that Oliver has handled this matter in an exemplary fashion. Although this is the normal standard to which they always hold themselves, I could not have asked for greater service. The whole team has been wonderful. This trailer will truly be better than the day it rolled off the assembly line. I understand everyone’s curiosity and I appreciate everyone’s concern but please be aware that no other trailer Oliver has ever built has a front end set up like mine. As this is obviously a unique event, there is no cause for concern with your units.

I replaced the window in the OOII's door with one that is clear but heavily tinted. You can see thru it even at night and cannot see thru it in the daylight. It is about the same darkness as the other windows. Easy to install just remove the inner trim ring and swap out the original. I ordered a piece of tempered, tinted glass at a local glass company here.

Sorry if anyone took my statement to indicate that I was attempting to mitigate or justify his actions. It was only that some of the sources I read gave the impression that it was inside the National Park.

I first saw the Andersen Hitch at a rally in TN and brought the idea back to Robert Partee at Oliver. He and I talked about how it could be mounted on the trailer and Oliver bought one to see if it could be adapted to fit. They decided that it was a good product and began to offer it as an option. I don't own an Andersen Hitch. That is a personal decision I made after careful consideration of my needs. The aforementioned accusation against Ryan Anderson near Arches NP is apparently true. This personally bothers me, but whether it has any relevance on ones decision the purchase his hitch is, of course, up to each individual. Just so you know, Corona arch is not within the National Park system, it lies outside Arches NP. It is located in Bureau of Land Management land however, so it is still protected under the federal government. There will be an Andersen representative at our upcoming rally. Whoever this person will be should not have to suffer because of his or her bosses actions. Let's be sure not to take out any animosity toward that individual.

Mike, although I have redone the way my XM antenna cord enters the body, this is the way it was done during the build.

Mike, I would certainly try using the antenna on the inside of the trailer first. As you know we have had two Oliver trailers and each of them has had an XM radio system. Both of these had an exterior antenna that was installed during the build. IF you have to go the exterior route, drill a hole large enough to get the plug through. This may have to be as large as a half inch. I would drill it just behind the rear view camera, between there and the air-conditioner. Cut a 1/8th inch thick piece of steel about 1 1/2 inches square, paint it white and glue that to the roof right beside the hole. The plate will allow the magnetic antenna to stay in place. Run the plug through the hole and into the upper rear cabinet and it will be where you need it to be. Put some masking tape on the bottom of the hole and fill it from the outside with 4000.

Have you ever been out to the Racetrack Playa? I've wanted to go but am reluctant to do so without someone else to go with. Agree x 10. I already carry so much gear that we are unable to buy any souvenirs for lack of room to put them!

I don't know when Oliver stopped making the umbilical the way they were early on. In all the 2007-2009 models as well as the first X# of the 2014 and later models it consisted of a double male-ended cord. One end plugged into the the tow vehicle and the other plugged into a female receptacle mounted behind the propane shroud down low on the body. This would be an elegant solution to your situation and would only require buying a male plug and female receptacle and another length of umbilical wire. You would have to drill a hole where the wire enters the body large enough to accept the female. But no splices!

I am all about being prepared for unforeseen complications. But, I can't envision a scenario where I’ve discovered a need to get the OO-II unstuck from a bog, quicksand or any other quagmire into which I've suddenly driven. Presumably the truck would have entered first and that should have forewarned me that greater trouble was eminent. I don’t feel the need to concern myself with everything I might need to extricate myself from every situation. (I do, however, like that idea of having an excavator on hand just in case.) I believe a far more likely conundrum would be finding that you’ve driven into an area where you can’t go any further forward and there is no room to turn the trailer around. At that point, you’re left with backing up. This is the easiest choice and usually will not be a problem. But, if you have just gone a mile or so down a narrow, twisty road with steep drop-offs on the sides and weeds and bushes so close that you can’t see down either side of the trailer, you may find yourself up poop creek with no apparent means of locomotion. (I can show anybody interested this exact place in West Virginia.) Luckily, I had been concerned about that very situation and had come prepared. All the vehicles that I might tow with are equipped with a front hitch. Watching the rear camera on the trailer you can push that sucker back down the road till you get to a place where you can turn it around.

Impressive results. I've always run ours on Propane.

Pete, are you looking to buy new?

The Oliver Elite II trailer was not designed or ever intended to be any kind of serious off road trailer. If that's what you wanted, perhaps you should have chosen one of these or maybe some of these. Just sayin'...

Those are our extendable flag poles. One is 26 feet long and will handle two flags. The other is 32 feet and is for spinners. I bought both in Quartzsite a couple of years ago.

During our build in 2013 I asked that there be three hatches placed down low on the inside of the coach so that we could access the "spaces" under our raised bed platforms as well as the basement. I see that the one under the nightstand at least has apparently become standard equipment. I also had them install switches that control the basement light. One was placed beside the inside hatch going into the basement and the other was placed just inside the the outside basement access door. One of the first additions I did was to increase the number of lights in the basement so we could see all the distant corners from both inside and out.

The TPMS Signal Booster IS Weather resistant, so no worries putting it under the Propane cover. That's where mine is. I wired it in conjunction with my rear camera. When the camera is on so is the booster.

We were there both before and after leading the Southern Utah Tour for Don Taylor last Spring and summer. It was on my bucket list of placed to go. We came up from Durango and Silverton across Red Mountain Pass. This is a very pretty area and has long been one of our favorites. We did drive down to the river on the East Portal Road. We did not visit Dinosaur NM on this trip but I did visit there back in September of 1997 when the fossils were younger.

I watched a stickie burn to the frame in Acadia NP a couple of years ago. It took about ten minutes. I am thankful that your Oliver made it out unscathed.

Very nice, I feel like the 5500 pound model would not be quite heavy enough. At only $4100 I believe we’ll go with the 9000 pound one.

Come by the Outlaw Oliver and say "HI."

I'm glad that I am not a horse that belongs to either of you guys.

I don’t think the Weber would fit. If it did it would take up the entire area. We really like ours. It’s the 1200 model.

No, but if I followed these recommendations, I would be...

He states that the useful life of an ST tire is between five and twelve thousand miles. “Believe it or not, RV trailer tires are designed to not wear out. It’s life is determined by time and the number of duty cycles. They are designed to last 5k to 12k miles!” If I followed these recommendations, I’d have to buy new tires before every trip.