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And, they're apparently only a hazard of left "on" after use. So, if you turn your tank off in storage,as most prudent folks do, no panic run to the snowy storage unit necessary.

This link provides a better description, and better photo of what to look for. Highly unlikely anyone in our group is affected, with such limited numbers, but definitely worth a quick check. Recall involves 490 tanks, manufactured within specific dates. https://www.amerigas.com/recall

So, @johnwen, was it worth the stop? In your opinion? No "spoiler alerts" nor secrets divulged? 😀

@Chukarhunter, thank you for sharing your results. A reminder, for owners of various vintages, that systems and electronics change, over time.

There were several versions of boards for the rm2454, and several control boards, though dometic kept the same model number. I'll look to see if I can find the old website,, but a call to dometic ((have model and serial number in hand) may be faster. I feel your pain, and I am truly sorry. My opinion, dometoc should have changed the model number, at least with a last digit or character. It's a total pita. One of the reasons we changed to a danfoss/dc compressor fridge. I hope that is not your issue, but might be. Have you tried just running the fridge on lp?

Yes, @Hokieman and @mountainoliver, that's what I meant, but didn't make clear. With a minimal ip21 rating, I'd want to seal that door to the outside, for both dust and moisture, very carefully, and if I needed venting for temp, I'd want it to be to the cleaner interior of the trailer. Thank you both for helping me out. I appreciate it. You both read my mind.

Hoping #1512 will pipe in. As #12, we are one of the oldest , if not the oldest, in continuous ownership first gen trailers @bugeyedriver is just a few weeks behind us. . Last week, our Ollie celebrated its 16th birthday. 17th season camping approaches. We've done many updates, to suit us. But it was and is an awesome camper, without our updates. Other friends, who've done zero updates, spent the winter travel camping in their number 30 something. How cool is that? Looking forward to the day when I can apply for vintage tags, and still have a modern trailer, to pass on to our daughter.

I just now looked at specs I found it interesting, when I looked, that the newer victron connect battery has a much lower water/dust resistance rating (ip 21 vs ip54 on earlier Bluetooth model. ) I would suggest that you vent to the inside, to avoid water/dust intrusion. (Check with manufacturer. ) probably block/waterproof the external vents, and, if it were me, put an extra "eyebrow" of water relief above the battety compartment, aka Eze rv gutter. The 460 ah battery we ordered for our boat is ip67. And, has bolt down features integrated into the waterproof case. We are sailors, as well as campers, so I'm always looking at ip ratings.

Back in the day, Oliver used a tiny part of the facility. (We are #12.) I think it's actually measured in acres. When we picked up our trailer, it was parked in part of the very empty floor. We are so delighted to see the parking lot filled, and space used, when we visit. A very forward thinking family. Not to mention what they have done for the Hohenwald employment opportunities. In my humble opinion, it's been a great symbiosis, between the Oliver family, and the local economy. Most of the current Oliver folks don't know me, but even with a 2008, I'm treated with kindness and respect, on a timely basis. I'm sure @bugeyedriver and @ScubaRx remember the old days. We're a few of the original 50. It's fun to reminisce, but even more fun to see the growth of our favorite trailer. Old school, fuzzy photos, below. I'm so very proud of their progress. Great company culture. Great trailers. We took a chance when they were pretty much brand new. But, my engineer husband and I know quality when we see it.16 years in, we are happy campers.

@Ronbrink, that's a marvelous solution to clean drinking water and some winter camping situations. It looks really pricey, at first, at roughly $300 for the can and replacement filters, but 500 gallons of clean water for $300 is less than you'd pay in the grocery store, and no wasteful packaging. After the first round, replacement filters were 5 for $40 on their website. Now, 6 cents a gallon. Smart improvement. Cpuld be very useful for some folks. Thanks for sharing.

@jd1923 reported that he got good signal in his tv after he mounted the dongle. I dont remember where he mounted it. I'm sure he'll chime in.

I just pulled up the manual for the ve direct smart dongle. Factory cable is 1.5 meters. There is a note that the cable should not be extended. (Highlighted in blue in install instructions below.) I ran a search within the manual for ip67 rating (many of there products are ip67 rated), but nothing came up. I skimmed the 10 pages, and found nothing about water resistance. I'd give them a call.

I caught this on FB today. Oliver crew is celebrating the 1500th Ollie to roll off the line. I'm very happy for everyone at Oliver. I wonder who will get this hull #?

Will Prowse has some great videos on his YouTube channel on the Epochs. This, from a week ago, compares features, and costs, of LiTime and Epoch. I think I've posted this one before in another thread, but it's an interesting teardown of the Epoch 460. He's been very impressed with the case and components. Good luck with your install. That's a whopping amount of amphours!

Looks nice. I would add that I don't own one, and won't ever likely need one. But, comments I've read on other forums is that many campground owners don't like them, so best to have it inside, and not mention the hefty price tag outside, totally available. Good job bringing it inside, and out of view.

True. Unless you crawl under and over other trailers, you may not appreciate the construction. 16 years in, we are very happy with our choice.

Belt and suspenders is never an issue.

Good luck, Alberta, and keep us posted on results.

Old school internal sensors failed early, and always. SeeLevel is awesome, imo. We used them in our boat, too, when we upgraded our system, based onbl their reliability in our camper. As everyone has noted, including @Jason Fosterthey still have to rely on sending through the wall. You said you rarely use the black tank. Change that up, and do follow @Mike and Carol practices. DON'T dump that black tank when only a bit full. Do add calgon, or borax mixed with warm water first, and drive it around to the next camp site. (The old school ice in the tank has never worked for us, in used rentals that we've delivered.) If you follow Mike and Carol's procedures, several times, with a mostly full tank ( you can see it, on visual inspection), you have a bad sensor , imo. Contact SeeLevel. Replacing the sensor with a poop pyramid, or unclean tank walls, will yield the same results. So, do try to clean it up first, imo.

I know. I think a number of manufacturers have moved to 12v dc compressor fridges, because of their superb performance and reliability, with the increasing availability and favorable pricing of higher amp hour lifepo4 batteries . We've had dometic and norcold 3 ways. Used webasto/indel and indel b in various trailers and camper vans. Best performance and reliability for us has been any fridge with dc compressor/danfoss/ secop. I do wish there was still an option for those who love 3way. For many camping styles, it's a sturdy, uncomplicated way to go, and totally sips amps, on gas. I used to think it was the best boondock option. Still is, if no solar or genset. 60 ah a day draw is tough to manage boondocking, without solar. Requires recharging with a genset.

In my experience, many systems will have a "safety cutout" somewhere around 10.6 to 12v. Furnace won't work. 3way fridge won't work. To protect the battery. I've actually never seen a battety at 3v. Good on you that you brought it back. We have brought back batteries at 10 and 10.5 v. They were fairly new, which probably helped.

Smart move. You can still get significant tax credits. We haven't had a power bill in nine years since installing solar. (Just the connection/grid fees). My home system paid for itself a few years ago. I encourage all my friends to install rooftop solar, and many have.

In all fairness, @John Dorrer, the compressor fridges, like home fridges, do need room to breathe. Just not to the outside, as @mountainoliver explained. Just like your home fridge. We installed "rails" or "ledges" epoxied to the cavity sides, and kept the fridge off the floor. Bonus, I have a nice shallow drawer under the fridge, where I keep flat pans, BBQ tools, flashlights, some miscellaneous items. It's open to the base of the fridge. We allowed twice the recommended venting in our install, but if we ever got caught in high temps, I can crack the drawer open a few inches, and double it again. (Not likely for us, as we chase cool weather, but who knows?) Thanks for your thoughts. They actually helped a lot in furthering discussions.

Agm, and fla batteries really do best when not fully discharged to 50 per cent limits, and fully charged daily. I think that's why our solar has given us "extra life" on both the boat and trailer batteries. Lithium is much more forgiving on deep discharge, and only occasionally brought back to 100 per cent. Lithium, in my experience, actually likes hanging out somewhere in the 75 to 80 per cent zone, which is a slow death for lead acid batteries. Different chemistry, different quirks.

I think I'd call the Lakeland truma center, and check on price. You could probably have a fun camping trip, and still be less. If not, I'd check with a local dealer on price to install a traditional 6 gallon (will require changing out the access door, as vents are different), or a different brand instantaneous, if you love it. I think the whole swap was about that price, when we went from a 6 gallon to the Girard instantaneous, though it was years ago. With most 6 gallons, you can run the heater on "free" campground electricity, if you're plugged in. I'm really sorry for your experience, so far. But, I'd encourage you to look into options for service and replacement. Every newbie makes mistakes. Don't be too hard on yourself. You'll not likely do it again.