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2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Sport utility vehicle Description Towing capacity: 3,500 to 7,200 lbs Payload: 1,396 to 1,955 lbs MPG: Up to 19 city / 26 highway Warranty: 3 yr/36,000 mi basic, 5 yr/100,000 mi powertrain Curb weight: 4,545 to 5,104 lbs Horsepower: 240 to 475 hp To get more specific about the payload your Jeep, you are going to have to be a bit more specific. I assumed that yours is a 2017 and assumed that it has the 6 cylinder engine because that is the towing capacity noted by Good Sam's 2020 towing guide for a Grand Cherokee with the 3.6L V-6 engine for both 2WD and 4WD versions. Any options - OEM or otherwise? Also see - https://www.autoblog.com/buy/2017-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-Limited__4dr_4x4/specs/

It is reported by RVtravel.com that Trailer Life and Motorhome magazines will stop publication shortly. https://www.rvtravel.com/good-sam-changes/ These two publications will be replaced by a "new" magazine called "RV Magazine". No word as to how existing subscriptions to the two that are being stopped will be handled. Bill

JD - Two months in mostly the same terrain and not one tick. No moose either but there were cattle, deer, bear and a few horses. Box Creek campground does have small corals for horses and while I was there a very nice guy and his two horses were camped at the other end of the campground from me. He asked if I minded him letting his horses graze and since I do like horses I didn't have any problems with it. Interestingly while I was fishing the Buffalo Fork River one day I was walking across a fairly large sandy area that had a bunch of animal tracks in it. One of those tracks was from a medium sized grizz and was fairly fresh. The disturbing thing was that there was only one track - front right paw. I never could figure out how in the world that bear got just one print in the sand since it was not near the water and too far to jump from the clump of willows. Strange! Bill

I checked the Google Playstore for android devices and found nothing. Bill

In addition - today IS "Patriot" day. Lets all remember.

On my recent fly fishing trip to Wyoming I stumbled upon a Forest Service "de-commissioned" campground. My destination was fishing the Buffalo Fork River and I knew that there was a large Forest Service campground (Turpin Meadows) at the end of the paved Buffalo Valley Road. I also knew that there are numerous boondocking sites on this road. However, when I arrived I found the Turpin Meadows campground FULL and even the availability of many of the boondocking sites were hard to come by. So, as I headed west back toward Moran Junction I saw a small sign 9/10th of a mile west of Turpin Meadows for Box Creek Trail Head. The 3/4 mile dirt road ends at the trail head where there are 8 campsites. The Forest Service took away the picnic tables but left the bear boxes. While the pit toilet is not "serviced" by the Forest Service (this means that it is not cleaned nor do they provide TP) the campers using this facility do sweep it out and the result is that it is in better shape than the average. There is water but it is marked that it is not potable, however, both potable water and trash disposal can be done at Turpin Meadows. During the week I camped here it was never full and most nights there were only three of us staying there. It is super quiet but certainly be "bear aware". So, if you are in the Grand Teton area and want to get away from the crowds but still want great hiking and/or good fishing without a long drive on a dirt road, you might want to consider Box Creek. There are stunning views of the Tetons from many of the hiking trails, from the river and from the drive west on Buffalo Valley Road. GPS: N 43 degrees 51minutes 42.5 seconds, W 110 degrees 17 minutes 39.0 seconds Bill

Susan - Larry explains the difference between these two types of controllers above. Bill

The 2200 will run the A/C as long as you have an "Easy-Start" type device wired to your air conditioner. Bill

Given the relative few numbers of Olivers in general and certainly the few numbers that are located in WA, you might want to start looking to see if you can arrange a viewing of another owner's Oliver when either you or they are in a location that is easy for you to get to. It is one thing to view the video's but an entirely different thing to see and feel an Oliver in person. Good luck! Bill

Your title probably would draw more interest if it had the number 50 in it 😉. I'm guessing that the answer to your question is multi-faceted. Many times these things are in the eye of the beholder. And, or course it can be argued that black, grey, and brown do not show the dirt as fast as many other colors. However, with the Olivers it is so easy to decorate with just about any colors you want. Even the cushions are easily changed if that is your desire. Bill

Yes. Several of us have the Andersen plus Rock Tamers. Bill p.s. if your application is at all unusual then a phone call to Rock Tamers is appropriate. I asked your same question before I purchased the Rock Tamers for use on my 2017 F-150 with the Andersen WDH and the people at Rock Tamers politely and quickly told me everything would be fine.

They will be back - at least so that you can see them - but they really haven't moved from the "old" location. Until all updates are complete, please simply put your mouse where it normally used to be and you should see it change into the little hand with the pointing finger. Left click at that time as you would normally do and you should see either your login info (or in the event you are trying to log off the Forum) you should see the drop down menu for logging off. Hopefully we will be back to normal by tomorrow - thanks for your patience. Bill

MaryRN - Thanks for the info! You wouldn't happen to have either GPS coordinates and/or move specific directions? Bill

I'm not positive regarding any changes that have been made to the latest models and certainly not any changes for the fancy lithium stuff. But, I'm guessing that there have been no changes to the locks/closures for these models. To specifically answer your first question - Oliver has never used the kind of locks that are typical on most RV's. Indeed, the Oliver closing latches are actually from the marine industry and are of a better quality. Having said this though, the locks on these latches are fairly standard as are the keys. I'm not sure just how many different ones are in existence but I'd bet that there simply aren't many. Yes, better than standard RV's but not what I'd call a great difference. If I was worried about my batteries I would make a call to your Sales rep and ask what options are available. Since the lock is part of the latch I doubt that this will be an easy fix for you. However, an additional lock of some sort might make sense given the issues involved. Bill

Big dog? Big shotgun? Big alarm? Have a locking tailgate retrofitted? Truck cap with a locking lift gate? A couple of cheap hasps welded to the sides of the truck with big expensive locks so it doesn't look sooooo bad? Good luck! Bill

Susan - Olivers (or any RV that I'm aware of) do not come with locking hitch pins of any sort. Usually the hitch ball locking lever like Townesw (Bill) shows above either has no pin or has a simple cotter pin affair. The locks for the hitch ball lever simply prevent the casual "bad guy" from springing that lever while you are eating, shopping, sight seeing, etc. These can be purchased at WalMart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-5-8-in-Rotating-Locking-Coupler-Pin-with-2-Keys-Trailer-Hitch-Truck-Pick-Up-360-Rotating-Head-Position-Lock-Easy-Access-to-Tumbler/291160794 Note that this one was the first one I came across but one sold by Master Lock is probably more widely used and is what I have. I also use a receiver lock pin to make sure that the entire hitch stays in the truck's receiver: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fastway-Trailer-Products-Maximum-Security-Hitch-Pin-Lock-DT-30005/55385513 Again, there are multiple designs and suppliers of these types of pins. Finally, if you are going to be using the Andersen WDH then I'd strongly suggest that you purchase a replacement pin for holding the "whale tail" to the bottom of the Andersen hitch ball. These replacement pins made both removal and insertion of this pin much easier because they have a handle whereas the one supplied with the Andersen does not have a handle. As far as I know, Tractor Supply has the cheapest price on these pins: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/countyline-red-head-hitch-pin-grade-5-4-in-usable-pin-length If you don't have a Tractor Supply near you or would prefer to wait until you have your Oliver, then there is a Tractor supply literally at the end to the street from where you will take delivery in Hohenwald. Bill p.s. (edit) OOPS! just noticed that you will be towing with a TV somewhat bigger than a half-to.. So, my comments about the Andersen probably don't apply to you.

Susan - Assuming that your husband doesn't like bending over or tilting his head (a bunch) while he showers then I'd say he is in trouble with or without Foy's shower mat. Perhaps it is a bit silly of me but I simply can't "stand" to be bent in any direction while I shower. In fact, one of the reasons I initially looked at the Oliver was because I could stand up straight in the shower. Yes, at 6'0" I have to make sure that I don't stand too close to the sink, but, that is fairly easy. Before Foy started making his works of art I thought that I'd make a nice mat that was custom fitted to the shape of the shower floor. I got to work in my shop that winter, measured, measured again, cut templates, measured again and finally got what I wanted. I searched Amazon for little "feet" that would now mar the floor and would not rust and, like Foy has done, mounted a bunch of them to the bottom. Then came the day I put it in the shower - soooo proud I was of my work - and then I stood on it with my head firmly against the Ollies ceiling! The next day I gave that mat away. Since I didn't like the way the floor felt under my bare feet during those middle of the night bathroom "runs", I decided to look for a "rug" type mat that I could use when not showering and be able to place it just outside the shower to catch drips from the shower door when first opened after showering. The best one I found was at Camping World. While not a custom fit - it comes close: https://www.campingworld.com/idry-bath-mat---pewter-71553.html Finally, I wound up buying two of these - yes, sometimes I forget to open that bath back-flow preventer valve - so that I can dry one or clean one while still having one to use. These are certainly not as attractive as Foy's but .... Bill p.s. Foy surely can't stand straight up in the shower either since he's taller than I am. But, his wonderful wife has no problem at all in that regard.

Dean - At the moment I do not have the time to look it up for you, but, there is a thread here on the Forum where various people have attempted to list what they would want in a Elite lll. Most of the suggestions are like yours - practical and sincere. But there are a number like a helicopter pad and hot tub that are pure fantasy. With current production like it is and demand so high for the existing products, I'm guessing that it will be awhile before we see the lll. Bill

Another winterization tip: In order to help prevent that "dreaded fridge odor" from developing during winter or other storage of the Oliver; simply empty, clean and dry the fridge and then place several sheets of crumpled newspaper inside both sections of the fridge. Also then prop both doors (the freezer and the main door) slightly open. When it is time to take your Oliver out of storage all you have to do is remove the newspaper, close the doors and turn it on. There will be no odor at all. Bill

Yep - good for you. Certainly I do not like following the crowd - perhaps most of us that own Olivers are in this same boat in that regard - but, there is a reason (s) that the F-150 has been the best selling for so many years. It is really nice to see that the other brands are catching up (and in some ways passing) to the F-150. Choices make for a better product on so many fronts. Enjoy that truck - hope it brings you many miles of smiles. Bill

Not ALL - I've met one of your "treasures" and she is definitely NOT "junk"😁. But, then again, I'm guessing that you would be in very deep trouble if you even mentioned Krunch and raffle in the same sentence🤢. Bill

Sure - a guy just can't be seen towing that new Oliver with a shabby "old" truck. Seriously, congratulations! Can't wait to see a pic of the beast towing the beast. Bill

Mike - Sorry about the weather. That looks like a nice site - level, clean and private. Did you have a chance to look at the shower house? Bill

Hummingbird - John has a point - if you haven't already done it, watch every video you can (of course assuming that you really are interested in the Oliver). After I had already placed my deposit I watched what at the time was just about the only video out there some 75 times! However, to me, there is nothing like being there. You get to touch, smell, feel and look into the eyes of the people on the production line. Sort of the difference between watching a game on TV and being there in person. But, depending on your timing and level of desire, you might want to choose the option that fits your situation best. Watch videos, take the shortened tour or wait for the full thing? Heck - if you have the time, why not do all three? Bill

Be a bit careful on just pulling in. Mainiac is right in that most Cracker Barrels do have dedicated RV/oversized vehicle sites in the parking area. But, asking the Manager is always a good idea given I know that there is at least one that does not allow overnight parking and some town ordinances may get in the way of allowing the Cracker Barrel to say yes. For the Cracker Barrel in St. Joe, I got WiFi from the motel next door via my WiFi Ranger booster. Bill