Beech lane levelers for for Legacy Elite II

[TxMN2020]

Was told by sales rep at recent RV show that this type leveler system did not work well with all twin axle trailers due to clearance or angle, was not familiar with this type leveler at that time, we have a Legacy Elite II 2025 on order hopefully early December delivery. Thinking we may pick it up at manufacturer instead of them shipping to our dealer, and would give us an opportunity to take factory tour, many have said it was worth the time. 
excited to get it and trying to put together the essential item now.

 

ve 

[rich.dev]

We have the Anderson levelers and they work great!  

[mossemi]

7 minutes ago, TxMN2020 said:

this type leveler system did not work well with all twin axle trailers due to clearance or angle,

I think the issue is with the Dexter E-Z Flex Tandem Axle Equalizer Suspension which allows one axle/tire to stay in contact with the road surface when the other axle/tire is on another level, such as driving over a curb.  The solution is to use a leveler under each axle/tire on the same side.  I have rarely ever needed this type of leveler on both sides of the trailer before using the stabilizer jacks and it is wise practice to always have all 4 tires in contact with the ground or a levered or the square plastic pads.  You want to avoid the tires being unsupported.

Mossey

[TxMN2020]

Thanks, I need to educate myself on that suspension system, if  I understand correctly, the 3 jacks on our model are indeed levelers and not stabilizers. Airstream clearly has the opposite and specify they are only to stabilize.  One of many reasons why I am trading up to an Oliver from an Airstream.

[topgun2]

39 minutes ago, TxMN2020 said:

if I understand correctly, the 3 jacks on our model are indeed levelers and not stabilizers. Airstream clearly has the opposite and specify they are only to stabilize.  

 

 

sorry to "pop" the bubble, but while many of us indeed DO use our three jacks to level (or even jack up one side to get the tires off the ground), Oliver advises against using them for anything other than stabilizing.

Therefore, if you want to level the trailer you can use products like Beech or Andersen levelers (there are several very similar systems on the market, or a product affectionally know as "legos" stacking blocks or even assorted thicknesses of wood that (similar to the "legos") are simply placed under each tire on the side you are trying to raise until you get the trailer level.

For the purposes of leveling the trailer (side to side) there is no need to really understand the suspension system.  Just make sure that whatever you do to one tire on the side you are trying to level, you do the same to the other tire.

Bill

p.s.  if you travel alone a reasonable amount of the time, levelers like the Andersens or Beech are well worth the price.

[Patriot]

2 hours ago, TxMN2020 said:

Was told by sales rep at recent RV show that this type leveler system did not work well with all twin axle trailers due to clearance or angle, was not familiar with this type leveler at that time, we have a Legacy Elite II 2025 on order hopefully early December delivery. Thinking we may pick it up at manufacturer instead of them shipping to our dealer, and would give us an opportunity to take factory tour, many have said it was worth the time. 
excited to get it and trying to put together the essential item now.

 

ve 

I just installed the Beech Lane Leveling system on our OLEll and it really works well and actually has exceeded my expectations. Having used it each time on this western loop we are on, it has been spot on every time. Not bad for $80 and about a 10 minute install. Just my field experience so far. A big Congrats on your 2025 order! I would highly recommend the factory tour.

 

Edited September 17 by Patriot

[jd1923]

Sitting on our deck, having’ a drink before dinner, our Oliver some 60 ft away, and “Honey she’s still level!” 🤣

[ScubaRx]

4 hours ago, TxMN2020 said:

Thanks, I need to educate myself on that suspension system, if  I understand correctly, the 3 jacks on our model are indeed levelers and not stabilizers. Airstream clearly has the opposite and specify they are only to stabilize.  One of many reasons why I am trading up to an Oliver from an Airstream.

True, been doing it for 17 years. But like Topgun said, Oliver now advises against it. Look me up sometime and I'll play Paul Harvey and tell you....

[John Dorrer]

The Andersen Levelers have been great. Used them for 10 years.

[Ronbrink]

The Beech Lane and Anderson brands of levelers look to be the same in appearance and design other than in color, black and red, respectively. Although there is a diverse selection of levelers available, this tear drop ramp-type leveler pairs well with OTTs, especially when used in conjunction with a cell phone app leveling systems as @Patriot and @jd1923 refer. Reason being these systems will indicate if leveling adjustment needs to occur side-to-side, then the leveling ramp(s) can be positioned on the side to be raised and vehicle driven onto them until level according to the app. Set the TV emergency brake, position the wedge(s) of these setups, detach trailer, complete front-to-back leveling per the app utilizing the forward stabilizing jack. 

Edited September 17 by Ronbrink

[Rivernerd]

I concur with Ronbrink's advice.

We use the Rophor system, which has worked well for us for the past two years, and is less expensive than some competitive products:

https://www.amazon.com/Rophor-Leveler-Version-Leveling-Non-Slip/dp/B09NJSXRRB/ref=asc_df_B09NJSXRRB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693330410595&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15739391212809512128&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029558&hvtargid=pla-1637492471943&psc=1&mcid=8b6eff5b433a3cedbac02e4e81b209a9

[topgun2]

Even though I've used the Andersen levelers for 9 years and have had absolutely no issues with them, I saw THIS short video from Long, Long, Honeymoon this morning.

While the Andersens are guaranteed for life, they should not break.😒

Bill

 

[Rivernerd]

For what it's worth, the Rophor levelers are ribbed (not smooth like the Andersens), and come with the rubber mats for placement underneath the levelers on hard surfaces.  We have used them for almost two years now with no slippage or other issues.

[jd1923]

3 hours ago, topgun2 said:

While the Andersens are guaranteed for life, they should not break.😒 Bill

There's always a complainer! Ours don't slip on any surface and adding a rubber mat would be a pain. What in the world would you have to do to break one, OMG! I get them on and watch the LevelMatePRO as I'm climbing up to level. They work great by me.

[ScottRicki]

I have had two of the Anderson levelers break. One after five years and one after two years. 
They do warranty for life and no issues getting one replaced but you must pay “shipping “ cost of $13.75

[Jason Foster]

I have used my "stabilizers" to level my trailer since I have owned it.  They work great and get the job done.  However, they are not built for it.  If you are in a fairly level place, they will be fine, but once you start hanging the suspension with tires off the ground, you lose stability.  In most scenarios, those won't hurt anything.  Where it becomes an issue is with lateral trailer movement.  At full extension, the stabilizers create tons of leverage which can damage the frame, mounts and even the tubes.  

I use two types of wheel levelers when I plan on extended stays.  Both have their advantages and disadvantages, mostly as inconvenient.  The first set are easy to lay down and include a lock wedge to keep your wheels in place but they are big.  The second set stack when not in used and assemble to whatever height you want.  Once I get leveled, I drop the stabilizers onto a hard block with rubber pad.  

[jd1923]

2 hours ago, Jason Foster said:

If you are in a fairly level place, they will be fine, but once you start hanging the suspension with tires off the ground, you lose stability.

Yes, tires off the ground are anything but stable and yes, you need to get close to level first. I have a set of the yellow ramps you have, but not for the Oliver since they do not work well for dual axle. I only use them for when I need the rear wheels on the TV higher.

I used the awkward orange squares to level before I decided to spend the $90 on the Andersons! Glad I did. Often Chris quickly places the two Anderson levelers on one side while I'm still parking the truck and when ready I pull up or back up in a quick minute to level. I got a pair of the Anderson 8" tall round platforms for the rear stabilizers and now only use our old orange squares for the front trailer jack. It's so much easier. Looks like the newer Anderson levelers have a ribbed bottom for better traction: Camper leveler - Andersen Hitches

Trailer Jack Block - Andersen Hitches

[Jason Foster]

6 hours ago, jd1923 said:

Yes, tires off the ground are anything but stable and yes, you need to get close to level first. I have a set of the yellow ramps you have, but not for the Oliver since they do not work well for dual axle. I only use them for when I need the rear wheels on the TV higher.

I used the awkward orange squares to level before I decided to spend the $90 on the Andersons! Glad I did. Often Chris quickly places the two Anderson levelers on one side while I'm still parking the truck and when ready I pull up or back up in a quick minute to level. I got a pair of the Anderson 8" tall round platforms for the rear stabilizers and now only use our old orange squares for the front trailer jack. It's so much easier. Looks like the newer Anderson levelers have a ribbed bottom for better traction: Camper leveler - Andersen Hitches

Trailer Jack Block - Andersen Hitches

I didn't consider the Andersen's because of the price.  I felt $50 for one was a bit inflated, and then I would likely just drive off the big end anyway.  The Rophors are similar but half the price and include a bag.  I wonder if they compare.

[jd1923]

10 minutes ago, Jason Foster said:

I didn't consider the Andersen's because of the price.  I felt $50 for one was a bit inflated, and then I would likely just drive off the big end anyway.  The Rophors are similar but half the price and include a bag.  I wonder if they compare.

They are expensive! Got to admit, found an eBay seller with a one-off pair for $60 (looked hard and long)!

A better set would be as strong yet maybe taller. The Andersons are 4” tall, and they just fit between the wheels. I can see the required height on the LevelMatePRO before using. If > 4” move and try again!

Then drive up ‘til level and you shouldn’t drive past the top. However, I have done so when I have gone in reverse when should have gone forward, or vice versa. What a mess, just drive forward, right over the dang things and try again! I haven’t broken one yet (rated to 30K LBS). 🤣

[Jason Foster]

16 minutes ago, jd1923 said:

They are expensive! Got to admit, found an eBay seller with a one-off pair for $60 (looked hard and long)!

A better set would be as strong yet maybe taller. The Andersons are 4” tall, and they just fit between the wheels. I can see the required height on the LevelMatePRO before using. If > 4” move and try again!

Then drive up ‘til level and you shouldn’t drive past the top. However, I have done so when I have gone in reverse when should have gone forward, or vice versa. What a mess, just drive forward, right over the dang things and try again! I haven’t broken one yet (rated to 30K LBS). 🤣

I see that the Andersen Rapid Jack goes to 5 3/4 but it doesn't have the stop wedges.  Might be something to try when 4 inches just isn't enough.

[Ronbrink]

14 hours ago, jd1923 said:

I got a pair of the Anderson 8" tall round platforms for the rear stabilizers and now only use our old orange squares for the front trailer jack.

The Anderson Jack Blocks are great, like that they have magnets to ease attachment and centering. As for the front stabilizer, I use a Rapid Jack on its’ side. I have used it as intended to change a tire, despite claims it won’t work on an Oliver. It stows alongside its’ cousins in the garage!

 

[Ronbrink]

7 hours ago, Jason Foster said:

I see that the Andersen Rapid Jack goes to 5 3/4 but it doesn't have the stop wedges.  Might be something to try when 4 inches just isn't enough.

I have topped these ramps a couple of times, that’s where the stabilizer jacks really shine to lift the body a tad more for level without lifting the tires anymore. 

[jd1923]

14 hours ago, Jason Foster said:

I see that the Andersen Rapid Jack goes to 5 3/4 but it doesn't have the stop wedges.  Might be something to try when 4 inches just isn't enough.

These are designed for lifting the good wheel on a dual axle trailer to mount the spare on the other. I don't believe if you have a pair of these that one would fit between the two tires as needed to level one side, as the Oliver dual axles are spaced closely to each other. Amazon.com: ANDERSEN HITCHES | RV Accessories | Single Rapid Jack | 3620 : Automotive

I've had an old aluminum version of this since the 90s. I used it to change a spare tire or two on the road since. Not sure why I've been carrying this, as the Oliver has power stabilizer jacks that can be used to mount the spare. I should just keep it on our flatbed trailer. Amazon.com: EZ-Jack Combination Jack and Wheel Chock for Dual Axllee Trailers - 20,000 Lb Cap. EZ-Jack EZJACK : Automotive

[csevel]

20 hours ago, Jason Foster said:

I see that the Andersen Rapid Jack goes to 5 3/4 but it doesn't have the stop wedges.  Might be something to try when 4 inches just isn't enough.

I have the Rapid Jack and a regular Andersen leveler.  I purchased an extra chock directly from Andersen.  I tend to find the best campsites that are always unlevel!

[Jason Foster]

1 hour ago, csevel said:

I tend to find the best campsites that are always unlevel!

You and me both and I live in Texas, home of tumbleweeds and flatlanders.