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My wife and I have ordered a LE 2 twin model which we will be picking up in early May.  I have some questions about options that we need to finalize by early Feb.  

I was planning to get 4 lead acid batteries to start and then when those die I would consider getting lithium batteries.  Lithium batteries seem crazy expensive.  I would think you could convert the connections from 4 batteries to the 2 lithium batteries, is that correct?  We have decided against solar panels since most of our camping will be done at established campgrounds and in Wisconsin there are many cloudy days plus most campsites are shaded so we wouldn't get much benefit from them.  We did order a plug for a solar panel so we could add a suitcase panel if we go somewhere where we would get lots of sunshine.

My main question is getting 30 vs 20 lb propane tanks.  The 20 lb tanks are more available and lighter to lift.  The 30 lb tanks are bigger and would last longer.  I do enjoy skiing in the winter and might think of staying in the trailer on a ski trip usually for 3-5 days.  I am trying to figure out how much propane you need.  I have read the forums and there seems to be a wide range of posts about how long propane will last heating with the furnace.  One post said that with temps in the 20-30's you will use 4-5 gal of propane per day which would be a whole 20 lb tank plus.  On the other end of the spectrum another post 6 days with overnight lows on the 20's used about 7.5 gal of propane.  Another option would be to carry a third 20 lb tank in the truck bed.  I would appreciate thoughts of those who have more experience.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Larry

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Propane:

Propane use also depends upon if you've decided to use propane for outside fire pits, BBQ's or Gas Grills. 
We love having a gas fire pit as it provides heat but cuts down on smokey smells into the trailer.
We also have often used either a weber gas Grill or our CampChef grill system for cooking outdoors.


We bought and love the propane quick connect option.

We find we use those external devices as well as running the fridge on propane.

With all those gas uses, we decided to buy the 30lb tanks and have been happy to have more rather than less propane as it doesn't go bad.

We've even found that when we stop to have the tanks refilled that the person filling them will lift them in and out if you simply ask. (In a couple cases, we had drive up filling service.

Batteries:
As to your comments about batteries...we didn't have the option in 2019 for factory lithium.  
I would have gone right away to lithium, but as normal with newer technology things are changing fast in the market.

If you decide to upgrade later to lithium you'll want to make sure to upgrade the "Progressive Dymanics Charge Converter" that is within your trailer.  (It's where your breakers and fuses are also available) 
The default on board Progressive Dynamics battery charger is designed for Lead Acid/AGM's.
There is a different version that works for LiOn battery chemistry.


(You might check with your salesman as now that on board charger may be lithium compatible with a switch setting, if so you'll be ready when you want to upgrade to Lithium in the future.)


Here's our BLOG it may have some useful info and includes the "Oliver Trailer Outfitters" list on Amazon.

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(PS - Our daughter lives in Madison and is the set designer for PBS Wisconsin...we plan to come back there next September (if COVID is dropping off.)

 

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Larry - 

Since I rarely camp in the winter and (as you point out) the 20 lb tanks are very easy to either swap out or get refilled, I chose to not upgrade to the 30 lb tanks and have not regretted that decision.  Since I really don't know what temps you will be camping in during the winter, it is hard to tell or even guess what your propane usage might be.  But, I only use just over one 20 lb tank in the two months during the summer I'm fishing.  This includes having the fridge always on propane and heating water from time to time when there is not enough sun for my solar shower and for a brief warming of the interior on those mornings when it is cold outside due to usually camping above 7,000 feet.

Bill

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Welcome to the group!

We normally fill our tanks at a Tractor Supply,  or other supplier that charges by the pound instead of "flat rate fill." 20 lb tanks are easier to handle. Tractor supply attendants will not lift the tanks out for you. A spare is easy to carry in the truck bed, if necessary. (Always contained/strapped to insure it stays upright.)

We camp in shoulder season, not winter, if we can avoid it. 🙂 I've never really spent much time monitoring our propane usage, as we refill when one bottle empties. In an Elite with just 2 batteries, usually without hookups, I'm more concerned about 12v to run the power greedy furnace fan. If you have 110, you can easily supplement the furnace with a small electric heater.

If you normally camp at serviced campgrounds, with electric hookups, I certainly don't see much advantage to lithium. Nor full solar. Your suitcase solar, with 4 batteries,  will probably give you enough power to manage a long weekend, or a week, if you can conserve power. 

I do love agm for many reasons, including cold weather, and no real maintenance.  Will you be parking your trailer at home? (Many of us here cannot.) If you are, and can keep the fla batteries plugged into a charger, so they remain fully charged, and are willing to do the appropriate  checks and maintenance,  flooded is fine. And included.

As I said, we don't have hookups most of the time. We make our power from the sun. So, our situation is very different. 

Good luck with your decisions.  It's really difficult these days, with all the available options.

 

 

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Btw, part of my mother's family lives in Wisconsin,  and great grandparents emigrated to Wisconsin.  

You live in a camping paradise, imo. A varied, and beautiful landscape. I'm sure you will enjoy your camping explorations, as we have, camping in your beautiful state.

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1 hour ago, SeaDawg said:

You live in a camping paradise, imo. A varied, and beautiful landscape. I'm sure you will enjoy your camping explorations, as we have, camping in your beautiful state.

Certainly I agree but sure do wish someone could find a way of keeping all those cows quiet 😆.

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47 minutes ago, topgun2 said:

Certainly I agree but sure do wish someone could find a way of keeping all those cows quiet 😆.

That's funny. 😅

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