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Hello everyone, 

Just an update on our order. Carrie & I decided to put off our Oliver and get a 2023 model, in spite of the cost increase. Our delivery date has been moved form early September to Monday December 5th. 

We enjoyed seeing the photos that Steph and Dud B posted, thanks!

We must be getting one of the first 2023s.  We look forward to posting first impressions and review after our 2 week trip to drive "White Dynamite" back to southern Idaho via New Mexico, Arizona, and up through Utah. 

Take care, 

Kirk

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Kirk and Carrie Peterson

Twin Falls, Idaho

2018 Ram 3500, 8 foot bed with overland conversion.

Elite 2 before the end of 2022!

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Kirk:

Sounds like a good move as now you will be getting the quieter Truma AC unit option? 

What Solar/battery option are you thinking of getting?

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3 hours ago, dewdev said:

Kirk:

Sounds like a good move as now you will be getting the quieter Dometic AC unit option? 

What Solar/battery option are you thinking of getting?

I believe they will be getting the new Truma combo AC, Frig, and Furnace if it’s a 2023. This is what we saw in a demo Ollie at this past summers Oliver Rally. 

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5 hours ago, dewdev said:

What Solar/battery option are you thinking of getting?

Hi Dewdev, 

 We are getting the platinum solar. I know it’s expensive, but we are planning on this being our retirement trailer. We like being off grid, not exclusively, but enough that I believe we will our money’s worth. 
Patriot, we are getting the Truma AC/hot water heater combo and the 12 v fridge.

 Kirk 

 

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Kirk and Carrie Peterson

Twin Falls, Idaho

2018 Ram 3500, 8 foot bed with overland conversion.

Elite 2 before the end of 2022!

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Nice to see you going with the 2023, I would imagine there will be a sufficient price increase with those new items, but a less noisy A/C is worth it. 

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4 hours ago, Trainman said:

Nice to see you going with the 2023, I would imagine there will be a sufficient price increase with those new items, but a less noisy A/C is worth it. 

trainman

While we were having our Ollie serviced this past June a salesman in the Oliver showroom mentioned to my wife and I that a new 2023 OLEll fully optioned is $107,000. Wowza!! It sure made us glad we purchased our 2020 when we did. 
-Patriot🇺🇸

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13 hours ago, Kirk Peterson said:

we are getting the Truma AC/hot water heater combo

Are you positive that it is the water heater/ furnace combo model? Have you spoken to Oliver Sales about that? I sure hope so, I would be interested in a factory installed retrofit, because the old furnace is a true PITA to service, especially if there is a board failure. I am sure propane consumption will be stellar with the combo unit. And hopefully stellar maintenance  access too, depending on where they choose to position it. And way way quieter. Any details will be very welcome!

I agree with your decision to wait! Your drive home may be challenging, don’t rush if the weather turns bad.

John Davies

Spokane WA

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The biggest reason I thought about waiting and paying for the 2023 was the change in the solar system. With the 2022, I was planning on replacing the zamp system with a Victron MPPT system. One problem was going to be the hole in the hull from the screen for the zamp system. I would have had to have all the work done professionally at a higher price. This together with the Truma AC and the compressor fridge swayed us. Other benefits are the more powerful solar panels that are a little narrower, and losing the lower vent for the 3 way fridge while gaining a little table. I also like that the tallest point of the trailer will be an inch or an inch and a half lower.
Still seems like a large price increase that might not be worth it to many, or maybe most, people.

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Elite 2 before the end of 2022!

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6 minutes ago, John E Davies said:

Are you positive that it is the water heater/ furnace combo model? Have you spoken to Oliver Sales about that? I sure hope so, I would be interested in a retrofit because the old furnace is a true PITA to service, especially if there is a board failure. I am sure propane consumption will be stellar with the combo unit. And hopefully stellar access too, depending on where they choose to position it. Any details will be very welcome!

I agree with your decision to wait! Your drive home may be challenging, don’t rush if the weather turns bad.

John Davies

Spokane WA

John Davis:

FYI, Looking at the 2023 Build (rate) sheet under "Water Heater & AC Packages" it states the following options:

Ssuburban Water Heater & Dometic AC - $0.00 increase or

Suburban Water Heater & Dometic AC with Micro-Air Easy Start  - $450.00 or

Truma AquaGo On-Demand Water Heater & Truma Aventa AC - $3500.00 or

Truma AquaGo On-Demand Water Heater & Truma Aventa AC & Electric Antifreeeze Kit - $3800.00

No Furnace combo model is listed. In the catalogue, it only lists LP Ducted Furnace, no brand is given. Maybe the web site gives more information

 

 

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20 minutes ago, John E Davies said:

Are you positive that it is the water heater/ furnace combo model

I can't find it now, but I asked this question on the Oliver Facebook group. Oliver sales employee Philip Andrews said that the water heater and furnace were Truma separates, not the Combi unit.

 

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Our 2023 order has the Truma WH and AC.  The model of the Truma AC is a heat pump so you can get some heat out of that and the unit still has a propane forced air heater.  No idea on the brand of that, but its not combined with the Truma Water heater. 

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So, probably the upgrade is the Truma Vario furnace, which looks like a nice unit. I called the local Florida office about that furnace when it was introduced here in the US. It has a "sleep mode" which would definitely be more quiet at night, and it's smaller than the Suburban furnace.

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On 7/6/2022 at 11:12 AM, MnM said:

Our 2023 order has the Truma WH and AC.  The model of the Truma AC is a heat pump so you can get some heat out of that and the unit still has a propane forced air heater.  No idea on the brand of that, but its not combined with the Truma Water heater. 

I asked Oliver sales about what Truma AC unit they are installing. I was told it was a 13,500 btu unit.

I went on the Truma web page and the only unit I found that is 13,500 btu is the Truma eco. There is no heat pump capability on this Truma eco AC unit.

I would be interested to know if anyone else has better or other information from Oliver. A AC unit that is a heat pump would be beneficial. 

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3 hours ago, SeaDawg said:

So, probably the upgrade is the Truma Vario furnace, which looks like a nice unit. I called the local Florida office about that furnace when it was introduced here in the US. It has a "sleep mode" which would definitely be more quiet at night, and it's smaller than the Suburban furnace.

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Yep, that’s the one Philip Andrews said came on the 2023 Truma option; the Truma VarioHeat and the Truma AquaGo. Not the Truma Combi. 
 

Before I bought the Land Cruiser, I was looking at flatbed truck campers. I found a few mentions that the separate units was a better more reliable and efficient option then the Combi. The Combi’s obviously advantage is size. 

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The AC is a Truma Aventa on my build sheet, but digging through their websites you can find the Aventa both with and without a heat pump function.  Looking in more detail, it appears the EU version is a heat pump but the US version (120V) does not show any heating function -- I stand corrected. 

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