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I don't have any complaint at all with the size of the two twin beds. I didn't run to the dictionary to get the legal measurements of traditional twin beds and it doesn't bother me at all that there are other beds called "twins" that are a different size. I certainly don't think they have been mis-represented. No problem here. There are two beds, each sized for one person to sleep comfortably with easy access in between. And since there are two of them next to each other, and the same size, they are twins. Not twin beds from some bed store somewhere, but two small beds that match each other. Twins. I haven't seen any Oliver literature that claims they are a size different than they actually are, or claiming they are some standard "twin" household size. BTW, household "twin" beds don't have a rounded corner on one end either. And "normal" twin beds at home have thicker mattresses. And household twins are in houses not in small trailers. I just don't see what the problem is. But I'll contemplate it, maybe, while resting peacefully in my twin bed while out in the forest somewhere, as I listen to a babbling brook and a crackling campfire. I'll decide if I'm mad that this bed is a bit smaller than the one I slept in at home as a kid. Meanwhile, it is certainly much better than many I've camped with over the years in tents, the back of pickup trucks and on the ground. It's even better than the ones in my boat. While on the subject though, I was just deciding if I was mad about Oliver calling my trailer "white". I've seen a brighter, whiter snow white before, and this may not actually be as white as I expected! I've seen other whites, and I'm not sure this is actually white. Hmmmm. I wonder if they misrepresented it?

I was disappointed when I tried taking a BATH, turns out it was too shallow for me. :(

I don't think it was ever Oliver's intention to represent the trailers with "twin beds" as anything further than meaning it was equipped with two individual beds rather than one.

I'm glad some of you found this useful, and hope the trim works for your cover. I'm hoping that Oliver makes them all about the same thickness. The thickness of my cover fell within the specs of the trim. Filing really helped to smooth out that edge and even thing out. To me, it has made a huge visual difference for the better. My wife didn't notice..! LOL. Oh well, we all see things differently, that's for sure. Happy camping! Dave

We have hull number 178 and picked it up last October. We brought it to Washington state and it wintered outside with only a small cube heater inside to keep things from becoming cold weather damaged. That worked out quite well and I figured it cost about 50 cents a day to maintain constant usability, and no other winterization efforts for Puget Sound area weather. It stayed totally dry inside and always ready for a hook up and go. In the last several months we have taken road trips every other week and have been on some mighty rough roads. Lots of opportunity for quality or design issues to show up. In that regard we have nothing negative to report from our usage. Our only real issue has been installation of wiring connectors inside the Blue Sky solar controller box. Jason and the Blue Sky rep. were very helpful in solving the problem. I received a new controller and a simple reindexing of connectors instructions and accomplished the fix at home. The solar system has been through some pretty rigerous testing since then and has been working quite well, actually exceeding our expectations. So in summary, we highly recommend the Oliver product and hope that you continue to look into their product and processes to satisfy yourself before making a purchase decision. The Kegebeins

For the convenience of customers and prospective customers alike, we have created a Measurement Index for the Legacy Elite II travel trailer. You may find it on our Oliver University page http://olivertraveltrailers.com/oliver-university/. This will help if you have any questions on measurements throughout the interior and exterior of the travel trailer. Coming soon: Legacy Elite I Measurement Index. Thank you

Recently I was told about a fairly simple one time use fire extinguisher - Tundra by First Alert. I know that there is an extinguisher by the Oliver entrance, but, what if a fire happens in the kitchen and I'm back in the bed? Amazon had a two pack of these for $22.49 and I ordered them. https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-AF400-Extinguisher-Aerosol/dp/B001229JCU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499709044&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=tundra+fire+extinguisher&psc=1 Since they don't come with any kind of mount, I took a piece of 2 inch wide "industrial" Velcro I had in the workshop and figured that it would work nicely in the corner below the nightstand. Hopefully I'll never have to use it. Bill

Recommend a call to Anita or Heather in the Oliver Sales Office for a definitive answer. We got a little off topic here with mattress size but I don't think anyone meant to be mean spirited, just having a little fun. Mike

You could also get a custom "Violet Quill" graphic with a flourish to mount on the front and rear. It could have an ink bottle to dip into that had ink to match your tow vehicle. The possibilities are endless. We had a custom graphic made local here, brought it with us at pick up and installed at a campsite. A great way to stand yours apart...

Good point. Maybe the twin bed model should be called the two half queen model. We weren't surprised at the 30" width having seen one before ordering. I had also done some quick math knowing the trailer was 7' wide, about 84". Two 39" twins would be about 78", leaving about 6" in between. I figured the space in between the beds should be about a couple of feet leaving about 60" for the beds, the width of a queen. I know Airstream has a 48" mattress they call a double, a little short of a 53" normal double. Anyway, some of our best sleep has been on these two half queens.... Mike

I was at the auto dealer for a recall issue. As I was waiting, I wandered the new truck lot. What I saw was a new equipped power company truck waiting delivery. What I happened to notice was the little sticker that said; "fire extinguisher inside". The 'bells' went off. What if driving and a trailer bearing got real hot, or there was an incident along side the road? We knew we probably wouldn't want to walk all around the tow vehicle to get into the Oliver, nor take the time to do so. We immediately added a spare extinguisher to the tow vehicle. Now to find a permanent mounting spot...

Think half a queen bed.

Wow. Okay then. That almost makes the conclusion a certainty. I would check a few things in this order: 1) Condenser coil dirt and/or corrosion - the number 1 cause of an A/C drawing more current than it should is a blocked or compromised condenser. Sometimes, the aluminum fins can corrode on a condenser, restricting its airflow. Other times, it might just be built up dirt or debris restricting its heat exchange capability. You might need to get some of that foaming coil cleaner from Lowe's or Home Depot and do a treatment followed by a hose down. 2) Condenser fan dirt/debris or a break in the gasket on the top cover - If the condenser looks good, check the outdoor fan squirrel cage for caked on dust or debris, which can cause turbulence and reduce CFM. Also, make sure the foam gasket at the top of the A/C is intact since when the cover is installed, the seal created for the condenser "air box" forces all of the air drawn by the outdoor fan through the condenser coil rather than around it. 3) Run capacitor degradation - a run capacitor that is supposed to be say 40MFD that is now only providing 20MFD will definitely cause a compressor to draw more amperage that it is supposed to. Many multimeters have a capacitance test feature built in. Check the run cap with nothing connected to it to see if it is still whatever the rated MFD value is stickered to the side of it.

Just wanted to add our very positive trailer pickup experience here. The actual trailer orientation and pickup was very professional and informative. I did not reveal our previous RV experience and feel like a newbie would walk away very comfortable and ready for a night or two at the local RV park. We spent two nights at the local campground testing everything and going over trailer construction. The only issues we found were the screen door didn't latch which was an easy hinge adjustment and I wanted a little more chalk around the bathroom vent. On our way out of town we stopped by Oliver and the "check out" team fixed us up. They also went above and beyond working with me on what I thought might have been an Easy Start issue but turned out to be my generator issue. After leaving the factory the trailer went through the literal shake down on the road. We don't use Wt Dist hitch and towing at 70 mph including gentle swerve testing was nicer than the little Casita a few years ago. After beating the trailer up on our Oklahoma roads we had no issues with drawers, cabinets, or even contents in cabinets and drawers. And it is so nice to have a truck width trailer again after the wide toy hauler. I also had a conversation with Scott Oliver (he brought his generator in for the team to use testing the Easy Start) and he told me about some of the quality assurance initiatives they had initiated. I am impressed with the commitment to producing a superior product and expect that any quality issues will be fully addressed for any customer but also addressed at the factory level.

FWIW, the Timbren bump stops are worth the $. I have had them on the front and rear of my 100-Series Landcruiser for years and can vouch for their performance and durability. I also have 2.5" diameter Radflo (similar to Fox, King, etc.) shocks on the rear and when towing I increase the nitrogen pressure (from 200psi to 400psi) to not only help with supporting the increased hitch weight but also to correspondingly increase the damping. After trying inner coil spring air bags, which provide additional spring rate, the difference was night/day with regard to additional control from the additional control via shock damping.

We are always on the lookout on ways to improve quality. I am going to refer to our team about this. Thanks for sharing Dave!

Dave - I am constantly amazed with the people on this Forum. People perceive a "problem" or a way to make something "better" and then they find a way to do it. I think that this is why this Forum is so good. I know that there are not many of us and I can only wish that more of the present owners would actively join in sharing their experience, but, until that happens, I certainly appreciate the efforts of member such as yourself. Bill

I picked up my Elite II in March 2016. It is the first travel trailer I have owned but my parents owned two Airstreams, a couple of other riveted aluminum campers, a Class B motorhome and an Alaskan Camper. The Alaskan Camper (cab-over pickup camper) was the only one they kept for more than 2-3 years, primarily because of quality issues. My Ollie has not been completely trouble free, but the issues have been very minor. The back to my furnace fell off after about 15,000 miles due to vibration. Easy fix that Oliver paid for. I've had issues with the drawer between the twin beds coming out when traveling and Oliver has sent the necessary parts to a local RV shop to have that issue resolved (adding a latch). I had some issues with the hot water heater but discovered that I was the problem, not the water heater. The fact that Oliver doesn't have dealers that you can take the camper to for repairs is an issue, but I've found that the Oliver people will communicate effectively with a local RV shop if necessary. My Elite II is a very high-quality camper. In addition, the people at Oliver have shown a willingness to provide what I consider to be incredible customer service during the 16-17 months I've owned the camper. They are always available to answer questions, provide solutions and are genuinely interested in keeping me satisfied with their product. Pick up any issue of Trailer Life and read about owners' experiences with other manufacturers. The rule in this industry appears to be that the manufacturer forgets you the minute you pull away with your new purchase. I nearly purchased a new Airstream 27' front bedroom. Traveling with that camper would have been a very different experience for me. I think anyone considering an Oliver should carefully consider whether it's the right camper for them. The lack of a separate bedroom, the small size, etc. will cause some to decide it isn't. The small size (7' width), the robust solar capability, the two-layer fiberglass hull and other attributes will cause others to decide it is the right camper for them. Are Olivers perfect? No, but they are high-quality and the company is still small, family-owned, and has a high degree of commitment to customer service.