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My 2008 4.0L V6 Tacoma did an admirable job pulling my Elite I (shorty) Ollie 111,000 miles. That being said, when the truck neared 1/4 million miles, even though it still ran superb, I searched for a new TV. When I discovered the new engines in the TACOs had a 3.5L displacement I decided to write it off my list. Yes, it has torque, but given my high annual mileage (pre-Covid) I thought the smaller displacement engine would be working too hard for the long haul. The Elite II would place an even larger burden on the truck's engine as you approached large hill or mountainous terrain. Personally, I would not use a new 3.5L Taco to pull an Elite II up and over many of the spectacular places my Elite I has been. The Taco is still in my garage, as a very dependable driver, but I have retired it from significant towing duties. My new TV is a Ford F150 with the 5.0L V8 engine and it has done an admirable job. Here's a picture of the F150 and Elite I going across the Top of the World Highway, from Yukon to Alaska.

I'm really glad you asked...

🤝 Apologies accepted lol! I do appreciate the advice though. If the responses were 50/50 I may have gone a different route. But the consensus from you guys seems to be over and above to NOT pull an Elite II with a Tacoma. At least not where we want to go. The story of how I got my Tacoma is a little interesting, it was also when my wife and I KNEW we wanted a travel trailer, but didnt know which one. We were thinking RPODs, TAGS, etc at the time. Now that I know we are going to getting the Elite II, this definitely threw a wrench in the gears. Fortunately, my 2020 Tacoma has only 5500 miles on it and is in perfect condition. For an F150 that can tow up to 10,000 I may have to spend a little more than my trade in value, but I am going to start actively looking, and no longer putting miles into the Taco.

LOL, JordanV, I see you edited your first post and are now open to switching tow vehicles. Please accept all our apologies, we tried not to be too critical of the Taco, but somehow we just can’t keep our opinions to ourselves. I really do like the Tacoma, in theory; perhaps the next Gen will offer enough extra power and payload to make it better at long distance camper towing, since now it seems more suited to pulling a boat to the lake over a weekend. The overlanding guys constantly moan and groan about lack of payload, which is such a shame since they look so spectacularly wonderful when they are steel bumpered, armored, lifted and racked. The Land Cruiser shares this same payload problem, the difference being the 200 is so grossly overbuilt (the fully boxed frame is 20% stronger than a Tundra’s) that you can just put heavy springs and tires on it and greatly exceed the recommended payload without worrying that the frame will buckle. The Tacoma is what it is.... So cool, can’t tow a thing: John Davies Spokane WA

gatorewc, is this it? https://www.amazon.com/NEMA-L5-30-Extension-Power-Cord/dp/B0047010CQ?th=1 That does look like a decent cable, and it is available in lots of lengths down to 3 feet. and made in the USA. Marinco makes a similar one, in 12 foot length, it is super quality but it is $230 ......😳. That Iron Box one is probably 90% as good for a quarter the price. However, it doesn’t have the threaded locking ring of a marine adapter, that may or may not bother you. I do prefer to spin down the lock ring mainly because it deters theft and helps keep out rain. John Davies Spokane WA

There is a statement with two caveats that I've heard hundreds of times over the past 12 years. "Oh yeah, those Oliver's are nice and all, but they're expensive and they are heavy." We bought our first Oliver in 2008 and I thought that the coolest looking combination would be to team it up with a 2009 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It had a 3500 tow capacity and the Oliver was stated to weigh abut 2400 pounds dry (what the hell did that even mean?) Well, who knew that with the options that were added and the water, food, clothes and all that stuff would make it weigh 3900 lbs. Jeep, big mistake. Our first trip to the mountains, by the time we got to the top we were pedal to the metal, in second gear going 20 mph. Traded it in on a used 2007 Tahoe taking a $7000 loss. There are plenty of Elite II's out there that will easily weigh >6000 pounds. Mine comes in at better than 7200 pounds. Before we got our second Oliver, we did a nationwide search for what I believed would be the perfect tow vehicle. We went to Illinois to buy a very nice Sierra 1500 6.2L with the Max Tow Package. There are many here pulling with a 1500 pickup and are very satisfied. There's also a group here that ended up trading to get diesels because they were not satisfied with their 1500's. I am of that group and bought a Silverado 2500HD Diesel. Now, we are very satisfied, but I wish I had not spent the $$$$$ on the Sierra. I don't have a dog in your truck selection race, but I just hate to see someone making the same very expensive mistakes that I made.

There have been several Tacoma owners pulling an Elite II. We did our pick up and first several trips with a. 2012 Tacoma. I did have the TRD Supercharger which helped with hills. I don’t have any experience with the new Tacoma. If you aren’t planning on doing a lot of mountains your Tacoma should be fine. My issue was with the size of the fuel tank and limited payload capacity. If you don’t mind stopping every 150-200 miles for gas and you aren’t going to be carrying a lot of stuff, your Tacoma will be fine. Mike

I think the taco is the sort of truck you tow with a few times, make some posts about how well it does and how much you love it, then quietly trade in for a half ton.

I’m happy with my tow vehicle what’s all the fuss about🤪

This is from Oliver University in the transfer switch manual. Mossey

Yes it is John. I tried to copy and paste with my MacBook but couldn't copy. I am sure operator error was in play. I used it for about an hour or so with my Ollie and was satisfied. Connection was warm but not hot. 90 degrees led to some of the temperature. Thanks for your help!

Actually I ordered one from Amazon. They have several for sale, I try to always stay away the the cheaper ones and go with a reputable company. $44 NEMA. L-5- 30. 30A/125V. 10AWG

Hobo, I our 2019 Elite II, with the additional 30amp connection, there is a transfer switch under the rear dinette seat, along with the other electrical. It is a black box about 8"x6"x3" mounted face up, on top of the wheel well. Andrew

Your truck is a match for an LE1.

Changing the tires to LTs will help control the load, those P rated (passenger) tires are comfy but very squirmy. But it won’t alter the numbers, in fact it will decrease them because your unladen weight will increase by 30 pounds. Do you plan to add a canopy? 200 pounds. Steel bumper, bigger tires. Andersen hitch 60 pounds, a generator 40 to 80 pounds..... See where all this is headed? My sister Just ordered a teardrop trailer, she specced it out very light, so she could tow it behind her Forester 2.5 CVT which has a 1500 pound tow rating and max TW of 178 pounds (!!!) She was unable to get any really useful things like plumbing or propane and she has spent a ton of money getting her marginal TV ready, (8 hrs labor to put in a brake control and charging circuit, most shops refused to do it for liability reasons I think) - a very sad situation IMHO, and one that is avoidable. The trucklet has no paddle shifters and she will be completely unable to control her descent speed except with the trailer brakes. Her transmission will be prone to overheating and failure. Trailer forums are full of folks who try to “make do” with a less than ideal combination, spend a lot of money and end up unhappy in the end. Just make sure that you are fully informed and understand your path completely. If you were intending to buy the Elite, we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all, because that would be a perfect match. John Davies Spokane WA

Take a look at your payload sticker in the door jamb: In this example 2020 Taco, it has 950lbs of payload. -650 lbs of tongue weight (most LE2s are well over this, so this is a delicate balancing act) - 125lbs of gas leaves 425 lbs for you, your pasengers, and any stuff in this example. So you really need to nail the tongue weight, and travel light.

You should be fine in that section of the country, but the first time you encounter a twenty minute 8% high altitude ascent in 100 degree temperatures, you will be swearing and beating on the dash with your fist. Guaranteed. With planning you can detour around some of those passes, but not all of them, Idaho seems to have a disproportionate number of jaw dropping extreme grades, though fortunately they are much lower than in Colorado. Sorry, you didn’t want to hear any criticism of the Taco, it slipped out...... John Davies Spokane WA

Where do you live? If you plan to spend all your time east of the High Plains you should be OK, it’s the extreme conditions that will stress that combination. The truck will do the job, it just won’t be a carefree towing experience. You will need to a avoid buying the heavier options on the LE2 and the quad batteries (pick the much lighter lithiums). Don’t get the cargo tray since you will need to keep the tongue as light as possible. Travel with empty tanks when you are able. Welcome to the forum, I am a big Toyota truck fan. John Davies Spokane WA

Mike and Carol are the only ones I saw with experience with the Taco. The 3G Taco isn't amazingly more capable than their 2G. Your fuel tank size, payload, and rear axle weight rating will be your limiting factors. It's possible, but to tow within limits you are going to be spending a lot of time on weight and balance and a lot of time pulling into fuel stations.

Thanks to all. So the problem was i needed to scan a larger then normal piece. Every shop i contacted could not do it. Fedex office store could. Once it was scan getting a shop to make it vinyl wasn't hard. Below is the finished product. Hull 546 Robin's Nest is complete. Mattnan yes we must have been right behind you. We got ours on 11-5-19. Again thank you all for the help and the oliver community is great you all rock.

The only reason you need an adjustable mount is if you plan to use it on multiple trailers. A simple fixed ball mount and a regular ball are fine. I prefer an extended (extra long) shank so I can stack hardened Grade 8 flat washers under the ball as needed to fine tune the height. The fancy hitches are expensive and beautiful, but more prone to theft and harder to store away when not plugged into your receiver. You need to base your mount choice on the distance to the top of the receiver when the truck is heavily laden, as if for a long road trip, not when it is sitting empty in your garage. John Davies Spokane WA