X23

[Mike and Carol]

I’ve seen notifications on LinkedIn and X this morning for a new Oliver model, the X23.  It’s described as an off-road trailer with blacked out trim and a 48V power system.  Nothing on the Oliver home page.  Anyone else seen anything?  Mike 

[Mike and Carol]

20 minutes ago, Mike and Carol said:

I’ve seen notifications on LinkedIn and X this morning for a new Oliver model, the X23.  It’s described as an off-road trailer with blacked out trim and a 48V power system.  Nothing on the Oliver home page.  Anyone else seen anything?  Mike 

It’s on Facebook, too.  Apex X23.

[hgreen]

Yes on FB, but no interior pics or specs.  I guess we need someone who lives in the Austin area to go to the show and check it out and report back what they saw, lol. 
 

[rideandfly]

Another Oliver owner sent me this link earlier today:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/996171699418948

Edit: The above link on Oliver's Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/olivertraveltrailers/reels/

 

Edited Saturday at 06:50 PM by rideandfly

[CRM]

From one pic I saw, it looks like it might be running a 48V Houghton AC/Heat pump. 

[Smaulmark]

If anyone can get to the show and Austin please post pictures and details.

[Patriot]

Here you go…..touch pic and scroll left.🤔

https://www.instagram.com/p/DX1y0pnkuH2/?igsh=MXRicTlrancwZXloOA==

Edited yesterday at 02:52 AM by Patriot

[ScubaRx]

5 hours ago, CRM said:

From one pic I saw, it looks like it might be running a 48V Houghton AC/Heat pump. 

It is.

[ScubaRx]

Everybody note...

The new Oliver ApeX-23 is designed and advertised to be an off-GRID trailer NOT an off-ROAD trailer.

[Tom and Doreen]

Those tires have quite an aggressive tread, they look like something you’d find on an overland rock crawler! I like them. 

Edited yesterday at 12:51 AM by Tom and Doreen

[Mike and Carol]

We’re just an hour and half from Austin, had I known I would have made plans to see it.  Grandkids today and a busy Sunday tomorrow…..

[Steph and Dud B]

THOSE are the windows we've been waiting for.

[Tideline77]

Looks cool

 

is it the original hull ? Or a new hull ?

 

[Steph and Dud B]

1 hour ago, Tideline77 said:

is it the original hull ?

From what I can see, it's a dolled up LE2 hull aiming to attract the overlander crowd. The 48V electrical system is interesting but would make finding accessories, etc. more difficult and more expensive. Will there be a DC to DC converter and 12V circuits for things like lights, USB ports, and 12V outlets?

[CRM]

47 minutes ago, Steph and Dud B said:

From what I can see, it's a dolled up LE2 hull aiming to attract the overlander crowd. The 48V electrical system is interesting but would make finding accessories, etc. more difficult and more expensive. Will there be a DC to DC converter and 12V circuits for things like lights, USB ports, and 12V outlets?

Love the new windows and hope they're available as upgrades some time in the future, though I'm not a real fan of the blackout treatment. Very interested in learning more about the electrical system, battery capacity as well as what looks to be a beefed up suspension. 

[Galway Girl]

Running gear looks the same , just a wheel & tire change and some black accents.  At least they are trying something different.    
 

If they changed up the suspension for better off road that would make a difference. 
 

 

[CRM]

14 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

Everybody note...

The new Oliver ApeX-23 is designed and advertised to be an off-GRID trailer NOT an off-ROAD trailer.

Looking at their new Instagram posts, it certainly looks like they're marketing it as an off road trailer. 

"Most trailers stop where the road does. Not this one- Built for the Road That Ends." 

[Steph and Dud B]

From what I've been reading about 48V systems they are most effective delivering power to high amperage devices like the A/C, fridge, and induction cooktops. With the heat pump, compressor fridge, and an induction cooktop, would there be any need for propane at all in this new trailer? They do make 48v water heaters with 1000-2000W heating elements.

Low amperage devices like lights, USB, etc. are often on 12v circuits powered by a DC to DC voltage converter in a 48v system, so there's no real gain there. (It is possible to get things like 48v lights, but they are more expensive.) 

I wonder what the boondocking sustainability difference would be between our LE2, which has the 640Ah 12v lithium system, 30# propane tanks, and LP fueled furnace, fridge, water heater and stove vs. this new 48v model set up as all-electric? As it is, we've never gotten below 50% SOC while camping in good sun and our propane lasts for weeks.

Fresh water and holding tanks would still be limiting factors with this new trailer. I suppose if you had the composting toilet and were camped in a sunny place that allowed emptying gray water on the ground you could stay virtually as long as your fresh water supply allowed, but that's kind of an edge case for a lot of us. On balance, I see the main advantage of the 48v system over our 12v/propane system being increased A/C run time.

[Boudicca908]

The soundtrack suggests trouble ahead, and the footage does seem to suggest off-road more than off-grid. That said -- my Ollie hasn't disappointed me at all, and I've had next-to-no troubles * in  terms of being able to spend weeks at a time off-grid. Of course that requires preparation and contingency plans. Having walked through creeks and stepped into holes several feet deep, I don't think I would want to ford a creek with my Oliver, unless it was an improved surface with known qualities. Still, there are lots of folks who have a bigger yearning for adventure.  I think this will appeal to those who want to go whole-hog off grid and off road. Can this model go longer than my LE2's 3-4 weeks off grid? 

* The one exception to my 'no troubles' was a few years ago when I had a propane leak that a local North Dakota TT repair facility failed to correctly identify and fix; in that case, I was left without propane powered refrigerator, hot water, or heater for several months, out west on the road into October. 

[CRM]

Some things I was able to pull from a blurry pic of the brochure- Alcan springs are standard, the 48v battery is 100ah, and it seems only the AC is 48v with everything else being 12v. One really interesting option is a 960 watt solar awning. Would love to have that!