cbrucecampbell 1 Posted Saturday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:58 PM Hi, If I order a small Oliver with the ‘no microwave’ option, does the cabinet space that replaces the microwave have an electrical (120v AC) outlet installed inside the cabinet ? Thanks, -bruce campbell Link to post Share on other sites
LongStride 15 Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Hello Bruce. I posed the very same question to Anita at OTT. She said "There is an outlet in the cabinet above the microwave (or convection oven) for either to plug into a power source". I am guessing that there is some sort of pass thru for the cord. I am am getting the microwave box and deleting the microwave. My thought is to keep a small toaster oven in the cabinet. I would use that a lot more than I would use a microwave. I will work out the details of that after I have the trailer. Anita gave me the following dimensions for the box: 16-1/4 wide x 12-5/8 deep x 20-7/8 long. I am guessing that the 20-7/8 dimension is the width of the box (as you are facing it) and that the box is 16-1/4 tall and 12-5/8 deep. I did not verify my interpretation of the dimensions because the important thing to me was the location of the power source. Expected delivery for our 2021 Elite l is early June. Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators SeaDawg 1,335 Posted Saturday at 10:35 PM Moderators Share Posted Saturday at 10:35 PM I would check with my rep on current dimensions of the replacement box. It seems to change. Did Anita tell you if you could actually access the outlet above the cabinet, directly? In not trying to be contrary, just know that things have changed, from year to year. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Link to post Share on other sites
cbrucecampbell 1 Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM Longstride: Thanks. Very helpful. My recent experience with microwaves is they are often non-repairable. I think I prefer to have a finished cabinet and bring my own appliance, so I can easily swap it out if it goes bad. My trailer is scheduled for late September pickup. I'm trying to make all my option decisions well ahead of time. Thanks again. -bruce 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LongStride 15 Posted Sunday at 12:01 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:01 AM You are welcome Bruce. I agree with SeaDawg about asking your sales rep for dimensions of the box. My research indicates that the dimensions have indeed changed during the evolution of the cabinet. SeaDawg: I did not specifically inquire about access to the power source. Anita implied that it was set up for the microwave (or convection oven) to plug into. I am just going to wait until I get delivery to finalize my plans for the box. Then I can measure everything myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators SeaDawg 1,335 Posted Sunday at 12:07 AM Moderators Share Posted Sunday at 12:07 AM @LongStride, I think that's a good plan. In our older elite, the outlet was inside the microwave cavity, under the cabinet. But, I've seen other discussions indicating it has moved, over the years . When you get your trailer, it would be great if you would post current dimensions and outlet location. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Link to post Share on other sites
LongStride 15 Posted Sunday at 12:13 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:13 AM I will be happy to do that. I ran across some pics of what you did to the microwave cabinet in yours after you ditched the oven. Real nice job. Looks like a factory install. You are quite a craftsman! Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators SeaDawg 1,335 Posted Sunday at 12:37 AM Moderators Share Posted Sunday at 12:37 AM Thanks. We mostly used items on hand, and a trip to IKEA. Their blum made hinges are awesome. We really find the cabinet to be an asset. Do realize, we didn't line ours, or build it out, other than the side plywood panels, so ours is a bit bigger than the factory cabinet. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Link to post Share on other sites
Fritz 73 Posted Sunday at 04:08 AM Share Posted Sunday at 04:08 AM 5 hours ago, LongStride said: Anita gave me the following dimensions for the box: 16-1/4 wide x 12-5/8 deep x 20-7/8 long. I am guessing that the 20-7/8 dimension is the width of the box (as you are facing it) and that the box is 16-1/4 tall and 12-5/8 deep. A couple of weeks ago I was told (I think) that the dimensions are 20" wide, 14" deep, and 12" high. These are a bit different than the dimensions listed above (although perhaps I wrote them down incorrectly, or perhaps what I was given was very approximate). We too are skipping the microwave; a small toaster oven and/or small Instant Pot (for oatmeal, soup/stew, and perhaps fresh bread) will be more useful for us (at least when plugged in to shore power). Apparently Oliver is discontinuing the option for omitting the microwave, as only about 10% of buyers have chosen to do so. Hopefully there will be an outlet, or at least an outlet that can be reached fairly easily. The cabinet door, I was told, hinges on the bottom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fredmin 10 Posted Sunday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:18 PM (edited) I was not a fan of the microwave or convection microwave anyway. I think of going the delete way. Could some one post a picture of the cabinet without the microwave in the Legacy Elite II. There are fantastic electric ovens that are cheaper than the $450 upgrade, and I have the generator to power them. I just want to see how it looks. Edited Sunday at 02:27 PM by fredmin Link to post Share on other sites
Trainman 173 Posted Sunday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:52 PM We all order our trailers with the options that will work for you, our Casita we did not order too many options and wish we would have ordered a few more, but when we went to sell it, it took 2 days to sell it. Our Oliver Elite II was also ordered with very few options as most everything is standard that we wanted. Our only options that we ordered were the Convection Microwave, Rear Hitch, 2 Propane Outside Outlets, no other options. Were totally happy with our trailer and all works just fine for us. trainman Elite II, Twin Bed, Hull #489, 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Link to post Share on other sites
Jairon 131 Posted Sunday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:43 PM 1 hour ago, fredmin said: I think of going the delete way. Last I checked, Oliver removed the microwave delete option on the 2022 build sheets. 1 1 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser 2021 Oliver Elite II, Hull #748 Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators Overland 1,371 Posted Sunday at 05:24 PM Moderators Share Posted Sunday at 05:24 PM That’s my understanding as well. 1 El Palacio Huevo Nieve, Legado Selecto Dos, Numero 256 Link to post Share on other sites
fredmin 10 Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM In that case, definitely not going for the optional microwave and might sell the original in Craigslist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John E Davies 1,168 Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM (edited) On 2/21/2021 at 6:18 AM, fredmin said: FYI That particular unit operates at 1800 watts/ 120 VAC (15 amps!!!), so it should only be used on a shared 20 amp circuit (12 or 10 AWG wire), or at a minimum on its own 15 amp dedicated circuit (14 AWG wire), with its own 15A circuit breaker and NO other outlets. Even then, it might cause the breaker to nuisance trip. It would require rewiring the Ollie. Running one extra 12AWG cable to that location would not be a big deal, but replacing all the existing wires with a larger size would be, indeed! There are empty spots on the breaker panel, so it should be doable.... You should run this by Oliver Service, to get their advice and blessing. I suspect they will tell you to not do it. A typical large microwave is 1200 watts, a great BIG difference! BTW, it you want to use that Airfryer off the batteries and inverter, it will be a true Battery Killer. Be sure to get the lithium package, or alternatively make a big placard and tape it to the unit: "Shore Power Only!" John Davies Spokane WA Edited Tuesday at 02:31 AM by John E Davies 1 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II NARV (Not An RV) Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/john-e-davies-how-to-threads-and-tech-articles-links/ Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 33" LT tires, airbags. Link to post Share on other sites
Ray and Susan Huff 513 Posted Tuesday at 05:35 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:35 AM On 2/20/2021 at 2:17 PM, LongStride said: Hello Bruce. I posed the very same question to Anita at OTT. She said "There is an outlet in the cabinet above the microwave (or convection oven) for either to plug into a power source". I am guessing that there is some sort of pass thru for the cord. I am am getting the microwave box and deleting the microwave. My thought is to keep a small toaster oven in the cabinet. I would use that a lot more than I would use a microwave. I will work out the details of that after I have the trailer. Anita gave me the following dimensions for the box: 16-1/4 wide x 12-5/8 deep x 20-7/8 long. I am guessing that the 20-7/8 dimension is the width of the box (as you are facing it) and that the box is 16-1/4 tall and 12-5/8 deep. I did not verify my interpretation of the dimensions because the important thing to me was the location of the power source. Expected delivery for our 2021 Elite l is early June. We opted for no microwave; our Breville Mini-Smart toaster oven fits in the cabinet with a bit of room left over. Regarding the outlet: it is in the cabinet above the microwave. When you order the oven deletion, Oliver finishes the inside of the cabinet with fiberglass, but there is no cord port to access the outlet; you have to get to it from the overhead cabinet. I don't think it would be hard to put an access port in, if you aren't opposed to drilling in your new Oliver! I am afraid to use the toaster oven inside the cabinet since it puts out quite a bit of heat. We set ours up on either the twin bed nightstand or on top of the stove (if it isn't being used). You could also set it on the dinette table. When better weather arrives, we will use the oven outside so as not to warm up the interior of the trailer. I purchased a silicone heat mat for under the oven to protect the counter. I also got one to place under our induction burner. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RNKFXRU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1 Ray and Susan Huff Elite II Twin "Pearl" - Hull#699; delivered December 7, 2020 2013 F350 6.7l diesel Super Duty 4x4 long bed crew cab 2017 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed (sold) Link to post Share on other sites
JRK 46 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Good call about not using the toaster in the opening. All of the toasters, microwaves, air fryers need a few inches clearance and air circulation to prevent heat damage or fire. Or give me a call when the trailer burns. The investigation work pays for my new trailer. 2014 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 2021 Elite I to be picked up in March, 2021 Pre-Oliver Oliver, beginning March, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites
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