Geronimo John Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 On 8/2/2024 at 4:36 PM, jd1923 said: Last thing anybody wants is to spend big $$$ for lesser springs. We have shown in detail the Alcan product is superior to OEM. That was the reason @Mountainman198 brought this to our attention months and 19 pages ago… Yes the Alcan springs many have purchased are a better made spring..... but it is not the right choice for a growing number of owners that are fully considering all sides of this "agree to disagree" topic. In the opinion of several non-involved spring vendors, for our OE2 trailers, replacing a 1750 pound spring with a more expensive 2700 pound one is an expensive effort to achieve an oversprung load. Not saying that doing so is bad for some frequent extreme off-roading boondocking users, just that for the fleet in general, it is NOT believed to be THE recommended solution. So instead of repeating the same confirmation bias we have heard on both sides of this issue, let's just sit back and see what OTT is going to use on their future year models. My guess is that it will NEVER be a 2700 pound rated 5 leaf spring for the fleet in general use by OE2's. Why? Here I go again... It would be oversprung for general fleet use. PS: My Dexter PB-4 2400 pound four leaf springs fit perfectly and are doing just fine. GJ 5 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRM Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, Geronimo John said: PS: My Dexter PB-4 2400 pound four leaf springs fit perfectly and are doing just fine. That's the route I think I'll be going, too. We travel light and I don't see the need for springs with any higher capacity than that. 1 2010 Elite II, Hull #45. 2014 Toyota Sequoia Platinum 4WD 5.7 with tow package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd1923 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 2 hours ago, Geronimo John said: but it is not the right choice for a growing number of owners A “growing number” or just you John? We’ve heard you a good 3-4 times. I’m against the Tesla Cybertruck, so after a comment or two, I stopped and haven’t kept up on that thread in months. It’s just not for me and this is not for you, no value-add in repeated comments. Buy the leaf springs you want and start a new thread! Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd1923 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, CRM said: That's the route I think I'll be going, too. We travel light and I don't see the need for springs with any higher capacity than that. Go back to page 1-2 and look at the picture of the failed steel, poorly hardened. Buying heavier but same level of quality IMHO is asking for the same failure. i was first of the belief these would be too heavy. When I can, I’ll go with the new product @Mountainman198 brought to our attention and @MAX Burner, @ScubaRx and several others have proven to improve ride and dependability! it’s similar to replacing a Dometic A/C with another. 🤣 Edited August 5 by jd1923 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbrink Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) 23 hours ago, jd1923 said: A “growing number” or just you John? We’ve heard you a good 3-4 times. You’ve heard it from me a time or two before and probably will a time or two again, “don’t thread on Crazy Horse”! NOTE: To set the record straight, the term ‘You’ve’, as used above, denotes everyone on the forum and not meant to apply to any single individual! Edited August 6 by Ronbrink 1 1 2020 OLEll, Twin, 579 2012 Silverado 1500 4x4 No installed solar, Renogy 40A DC-DC charger, 460Ah LFP battery bank/Victron SmartShunt, Hughes Autoformer, dual Lagun tables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 On 8/5/2024 at 6:19 AM, jd1923 said: A “growing number” or just you John? We’ve heard you a good 3-4 times. Jd, you would be suprised of the number of people that actually READ this important topic and don't respond publically.... but do via PM. You can sleep well knowing that there are more reasoned owners that are not going with the ALCON's 5 spring 2700 product. That said, if you go back an look at the majority of my reponses, they are typicaclly in direct response to your "exeburant yet opionated" posts. We all have agreed that some owners may need to overspring their rigs. I have pretty much spoken the logic line for the fleet, not the few who should go with such a stiff spring. Why don't we just stand down and sit back and wait to see what OTT does on future models? Or do you just like sparring? 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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