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Welcome @Douglas-Stickler to The OTT Forum and we wish for you a new Oliver in your future! This is correct and what @Steve Morris with his favorite Land Cruiser wrote "with the 5.7 V8, and it is just adequate" is also correct. The 200 platform, an LX or the Tundra would work, but sorry not the GX. We have a wonderful '08 GX470. Three years ago, after purchase of our Oliver, I setup our GX with a REDARC brake controller thinking I could use it as our tow vehicle. When I got home after a test tow, first thing I said to my wife is "We need to buy a truck." She nodded in agreement. Besides payload capacity or 4.6 vs. 5.7 towing power, there is another major issue. The wheelbase on the GX/4Runner 120 platform is just too short! Any porpoising movement in Oliver creates a BAD pendulum effect on the short wheelbase of the GX. The Andersen WDH helps a little, but using it strains the suspension front to rear. It feels awkward and uncomfortable. After driving just a few miles on an in-town highway, I returned home and detached. There is no way in the world I would tow down the mountain where we live in our GX pulling an Oliver. Chris drives our GX every day. After I restored it, she lets me drive it on occasion. 🤣 Hope you can keep your GX and purchase a 2500 series truck like we did!

I concur! @Ollie-Haus showed me this product last year and we bought two, one for home and one for the Oliver. We use the one at home every day and the other on every trip. They are usually $130, so this New price is very good. I purchased both of ours Amazon Used Like New for $80 each on Amazon. They both came in new condition.

I am on my first repack of my Timken bearings after 13,073 miles and 14 months. I have noticed that the Front Axel bearing show they got a little warm. The rear axel bearings show no discoloration. I used CV2 grease which is a Light or Faded Red color see picture below. The front axel outer bearings are the worst with a darker areas on the bearings surface there is no pitting or galling. The grease in and around the bearing is a light gray color. The grease has not thickened at all. still the same consistency as the original gear. I had repacked the Chinese Dexter bearing every 6,000 miles, and never saw the darkening, but had pitting and galling on those bearings. I'm I over tightening the bearings. My Procedure for setting the bearings. 1. As I'm tightening the bearing I slowly turn the hub for the first 15-20 ft/lbs to make sure everything is seated. After that I no longer turn the hub. I finish by torquing to 50 ft/pounds per Dexter. 2. I then loosen the nut making sure the Hub does rotate at all. 3. I then I hand snug the nut, and then back the nut off about 3/32 of an inch (probably about 1/32 of a full rotation. 4. I lock the nut in place with the retainer. I check the hub and tire temps during and 50% of my stops, and always after coming dow a mountain pass. They are always within about 5-10 degrees of each other. The highest temps have been around 130 degrees and mostly running around 115-120 degrees. I use a bearing packer for the bearing and alway push through about 1/2 of extra grease so I know that there the bearing is full of grease. I putt about 1/8 of an inch of grease around cones and 1/16 in on the axel. I try not to over pack the hub with grease. After pressing the seal in place. I put about a 1/16 inch of grease on the inner surface of the inner bearing and pack a little extra grease between the seal and bearing. I do the same type of procedure for the outer bearing. After making sure the hub and outer bearing is fully seated by hand I add little each grease before placing the washer in place. There is also slight discoloration on the spindles where the bearings ride. This is consistent among all spindles, and there is no pitting or galling. I check the hub and tire temps during and 50% of my stops, and always after coming dow a mountain pass. They are always within about 5-10 degrees of each other. The highest temps have been around 130 degrees and mostly running around 115-120 degrees. Also I had my tires balanced about 18,000 miles ago and I always make sure the weight is still in place on the inner rim when the tires are removed. I have the Cooper Discoverer HT3 LT Tires, and just replaced them with new tires due to age (6.5 years). Lastly I do have the Alcan 5 leaf springs and am using the Dexter Shoulder wet bolts, to insure I can easily grease the bolts and the shackles and Ez-Flex moves without restrictions. Should I be worried about the discoloration. Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to included any information related to the Dexter assembly. This is the worst bearing sets. The other front axel the discoloration faded 1/2 way up the rollers. This is the CV2 grease. Thanks

Good example Ron! Most of us want more capacity but I wasn't even trying to upsell. My point was to spend the same dollar for the same low Ah capacity but choose modern lithium technology because it makes good sense to do so! Lose 200 LBS weight, take half the space, get twice the life in charge cycles, 3 times the warranty. And btw, LA batteries are somewhat dangerous, towing with sulfuric acid! But I'm with you, Ron! We cool our Oliver while towing, so the cabin is cool during fuel and lunch stops, no hook-ups there. I'm also not trying to convince anybody to change their camping style, but for us, we don't use public bathrooms anymore, because we have all the comforts of home in our Oliver. We travel batteries and fresh tanks full. With 900 Ah in battery capacity, we can run our A/C for 3-5 days weather depending, and with and an extra 35-gal fresh water in the TV we can last over a week including water for showers. But that's us, not trying to sell. Even if you spend every night at a campground with hookups, what if you run into weather or a roadside breakdown? Having extra water and battery capacity sure would help. And my friend @johnwen had his LA batteries fail when he unknowingly ran out of LP and the fridge had switched to DC. If he had made his 600 Ah Lithium upgrade prior to this issue, their fridge would have run another 3-4 days on battery keeping the food cold. I tried, but the OP is determined. What would you choose?

Welcome @carpenter! While I do like to mountain bike and road bike as well, hike etc and live reasonably close to you in MT. We are up here in Bozeman so feel free to stop in for a visit, just understand I doubt I could keep up with you mountain bike at my ripe old age. Just did a 14 mile ride yesterday and my 4 month old new replacement knee is feeling it today. LOL. Good luck with your adventures.

Though it's never become unplugged, I decided to check my fridge plug to see if it was still a tight fit in the outlet. Looked under the sink and nothing there... Ends up they installed mine in the fridge enclosure and assessable from the bottomed outside vent. Still tight!

The real issue is payload capacity, which for a Lexus GX460 is 1,140 lbs. The tongue weight of an Oliver Elite II with any gear at all will be around 600 lbs. Add a passenger or two and some gear in your Lexus and you will exceed max payload. I wouldn't do it.

All though my refrigerator did not come unplugged, I proactively replaced my refrigerator plug after someone else reported that their refrigerator came unplugged. The is the type of plug I used and it has worked for 6 or 7 years. I don’t remember, but I may have also used a tie wrap. John Davies replaced his outlet for different reasons and this will take you to his mod. https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/6722-how-to-replace-the-120-vac-refrigerator-outlet-under-the-galley-sink-water-lines-with-a-waterproof-junction-box/?srsltid=AfmBOop_r6SWUqYp2fvGVz5cXJio0oNzeQnuFWMKZobs6ISEKIy-36a7 Mossey

Welcome to the community!! You'll find a wealth of knowledge here on the forum. There is an Oliver National Rally this fall, details of which can be found here. The demographics do tend to show a greater number of older folks most likely due to the fact that these trailers are fairly pricy and that they are favored as a "couples trailer", not so much for families. Lately I think that's changing a bit though with younger folks buying in.

Hehe. Fair enough. This is actually made for RVs, Fiberglass and aircraft. But to your point, we also have a carpet runner down the middle 🙂

Hey all, I purchased a 2022 legacy elite 2 last summer hull number 1018. So far I have used it about 40 nights and have made a few small adjustments to make it as comfortable as possible. The reason for my post is i would like to go to a rally or do a tour with some other owners but have noticed a majority of other ollie owners are significantly older than i am. My vision would be to tour Wyoming, Montana, or Utah and make stops centered around mountain biking, dirt biking, rock climbing, hiking, and kayaking/fishing. I guess this is a feeler to see how many of us would be interested in something like that. I hope everyone has a good week and those on the road have safe travels.

I wouldn't do it as others have stated. You will wear out that Lexus in no time not to mention the safety factor or lack of it. You also might be surprised at just how luxurious and nice to drive new trucks are these days.

Concur with @Steve Morris above. You will likely be running on the ragged edge of capacity, if your vehicle is properly equipped. On flat land with no wind and no possibility of any adverse conditions or emergency maneuvers it may “feel safe” and adequate, but you’ll soon learn that it’s marginal at best in most conditions and inadequate in some situations. Best advice is very well equipped 1/2 ton truck or better. For the price of a well equipped half ton you can get a 3/4 ton and pull the camper with ease and safety and everything else is a wash.

Looks like two Olivers in the photo.

For anyone that’s considered an induction hot plate, you can get the popular and very effective Duxtop single burner $100 today. This is about as good a price you’ll get on this item. https://a.co/d/00yjwMea If you need a very good quality induction skillet, we’ve found the Greenpan ceramic to be a top choice for non-stick ceramic with no teflon in the coating. https://a.co/d/0d7MmpY3

1 more than a 1fer? 😁

I wouldn’t. I’m towing with a 2021 200 Land Cruiser with the 5.7 V8, and it is just adequate. Merging is sometimes scary, and Appalachian hills require my 8-speed to run in 4th often. Tongue weight can be 600 plus pounds, and I’m already at cargo capacity with two rows of seats removed. I don’t think the GX has my 1450 pound cargo capacity. Most will advise that you need a 3/4 or one ton diesel pickup, but a few of us pull with large body on frame SUVs.

Our 2022 came from the factory with a zip tie routed under the fridge receptacle to tie down the fridge plug. No-one at the factory actually attached that zip tie, so the plug popped out, but at least it was there so I could finish the job and secure the plug. 🙄 It's been fine ever since.

In another recent video he shows build quality of popular lower-end batteries. He even jokingly said something like, “I hope I do t get sued”. LOL BB is dead due to their decisions in this matter. No other reason. They just don’t know they’re dead yet. “Dead man walking”. Time to move on to better things.

Good morning, I am very interested in purchasing an Oliver Elite 2, and I don't want to trade off my Lexus GX 460 to own one. My tow capacity is 6500 pounds. Bottom line: I want to be safe so will using my Lexus GX 460 work in real life? Thanks for your help in advance. Doug

I experienced the same issue with that swing arm circuit breaker you mentioned; loose of DC power for no apparent reason. Researched and learned the cheap breaker was notorious for tripping so replaced with a quality Blue Sea Systems circuit breaker, problem solved!

That’s our preference, as well. However, I choose to replace the four 6v Trojan T-105 225Ah batteries with LFPs three years ago for the specific purpose of being able to run the air conditioner off the house batteries. In doing so, lost half the weight and gained double the usable Ahs. When in transit to and from a destination and making stops along the way to rest, eat meals, shop, and do unplanned repairs and maintenance; I find comfort in a ‘cool retreat’ at these times. I can even pre-cool the Oliver prior to a planned stop, as deemed necessary. As @jd1923 emphasized, the DC-DC charger will quickly bring the house batteries to a respectful SOC upon arrival at a destination. This is how we roll and very pleased with the LFP upgrade.

Where the fridge plugs into a standard 15 amp duplex receptacle sure, but not where the battery charger plugs into the back of the AC breaker box. Thats not a standard receptacle. Anyway, if I’m cutting plugs off, I’m gonna hard wire it.

I don’t think I missed your point, I’m just not buying what you’re selling. Our 6v batteries don’t have fill caps. Nor do they even have covers you can pry out to get to the cells. (Trust me, I looked.) Rather, they have the “Delco Eye” (magic eye, whatever) that is a combination hydrometer and electrolyte level indicator. It’s the mark of a maintence-free flooded cell battery. Short of overcharging these batteries, they’re designed not to need watering for the life of the battery due to removing antimony from the lead and using calcium instead to reduce gassing and electrolyte loss. I even had distilled water ready to service the batteries. I was a bit disappointed that there was no way to do that - but - I got over it and finally stopped carrying that jug of distilled water. And yes, as a former mechanic, I’m well aware that old cars had 6 volt batteries, generators rather than alternators. I even know why neither of those is true today. Anyway - we’re happy with our antique 6v old technology batteries. I guess it’s a good thing that we still have the freedom to choose our own style of camping and to choose what we each consider “good” places to camp. We -like- campgrounds with 30 amp power and water. We also like campgrounds with showers - and laundry when we can get it. We can always hike out to experience the ticks and chiggers if we feel the need. BTDT. “Boondocking” isn’t our style. If it were, we would have opted for the (at the time) expensive lithium package and probably solar. Frankly, I don’t think the sleek, low-drag fiberglass shape of the Oliver is well suited to solar panels. Perhaps when flexible solar panels that can conform to the curves of the roof are perfected, I’ll reconsider that option. Anyway, there’s no reason for us to equip our trailer with capacity we’ll never use.

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