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Surely the most regrettable change in the Elites was when they removed the stripper pole. 😝

Daniel, the first 49 trailers that Oliver built were all Elites. This was between late 2007 and early 2009. As you recall there was a downturn in the economy about that time and Oliver made the difficult decision to halt their trailer production. There was no layoff of personnel. In 2013, they decided to reopen the trailer line but their plan was to only make the Elite II's. After many requests from potential customers, in 2015 they reintroduced the Elite. The general layout and floor plan is essentially the same. In the early Elites, if there was ever a problem with the refrigerator, the entire front wall had to be removed in order to get the old one out and the new one in. I'm not sure if that ever had to be done, but it would have been a lot of trouble. That problem was fixed in the later models. The early Elites had the furnace mounted in the cabinet facing along side the drawers. It is now moved to beneath the forward most dinette seat and is ducted into the cabin and bathroom. The upper cabinets in the early Elites had sliding doors while the later Elites have drop down doors like in the Elite II's. The cabinets are somewhat larger on the latest ones. Beneath the benchs and dinette seats of the older models were custom molded inserts that dropped into these areas for storage. These were eliminated in the newer models. On the current Elites, the suspension has been lowered, the air conditioner is a smaller model, there is more storage (both more drawers and the aforementioned larger upper cabinets), the bathroom window is larger, all lighting is LED and the shower drain system is greatly improved. There are probably more changes that have been made. We owned hull # 026 from 2008-2013. We bought hull # 050 (Elite II) in 2014. Others will chime in perhaps, if I have misspoken anywhere, please feel free to correct me. Happy travels...

This may be the thread Bill mentioned https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/2803-customer-design-input-larger-ollie/

Ok, buy a power wagon. 😂 and you can take a chance knowing you will get boot stomped extremely hard like the PW guy in the video. 😂 Onward! 😄

XPEL paint protection installed today on the Ollie and Tremor. A long day but we got all of the paint production 10 mil on the front of the Ollie and got the Tremor covered as well. This installer a long time friend is excellent and has had numerous awards from XPEL as a master at his craft. A good day but a long 9 hr day...a few pics of “paint protection day”.....the Oliver had the front corners, dog house, lower quarter panels and behind the rear wheels all done in 10 mil XPEL. The Tremor had entire hood, both front fenders, w/s pillars, both tow mirrors and front and rear quarter panels covered. A few random photos of p/p day.

Are the upper cabinets actually changed in size? Interesting. I don't see a big difference in the photos. I personally like our old sliders better , but maybe because we're used to them, in both the trailer and the boat. Our 2008 isn't "stock," as we've upgraded a number of items. I do think moving the furnace was a great idea. The original location (below the stove and between top and bottom drawer) was less than ideal, both from a noise and air circulation perspective. However, the old furnace works well, and we're never cold . When our original norcold fridge died, Oliver did have to remove the closet, and door frame, to install the same size Dometic (rm2454) three way. When we later replaced the Dometic, we just disassembled it, ourselves. Our new dc/danfoss truckfridge fit through the door just fine . The under bench storage in the older models has been replaced, for the most part, with upgrades. It's pretty useless, anyway, having to move cushions or bed to access the spaces. Ours is pretty empty.

12” wider, 4 ft longer, elevated 36x80 twin beds with drawer storage, dry bath, Truma Combi comfort plus, 800 watts of solar panels,, 600 AH lithium’s, 50 fall fresh water, a hitch carrier rated for 250#. In case someone is listening.

4.5" between top of basket and underside of cabinet but you can move these baskets around to suit. It is not adjustable side to side. I measured and knew it would fit.

I would like to know how other owners of the Oliver with 2019 Norcold N41X refrigerators are using their units when the outside temperatures are 32 or below. In the Norcold N41X manual from Oliver University, page 9, there is a paragraph with the heading "Effects of freezing temperatures on operation". The information states that there is a potential for malfunction at 32 or below. We are planning on using our Oliver in below freezing temperatures and we would like to hear from other 2019 owners on how the unit performs under these conditions. I am not sure on the cold weather performance of the previous Dometic model. I do know Norcold markets a cold weather kit (thermostat controlled heat tape) but the kit is not available for the N41X. Thanks for any replies and information.

As far as your panels keeping up with the greedy dc setting on the norcold, I'd give it a solid "maybe," depending on how far you are driving, if you have sun, if your batteries have a good charge when you begin. We only have 200 watts of solar, and 2 group 27 agms, so for us, it was not an option. We ran the fridge on gas when we traveled. At least with the connectivity capability of the lifeblues, you should be able to check how you're doing with your phone.

Sigh. This is (yet) another reason I seriously had hoped that Oliver would offer a 12v Danfoss/Secop compressor fridge to those who get the lithium package. These fridges are much less touchy in cold or hot temps, don't need to be level, and don't use much power, especially compared to a gas threeway running on dc. They cool down very quickly, compared to the gas absorption fridges. All around, even the less expensive models like my truckfridge are just more efficient. That said, we've always had gas absorption in the past. No problems with cool weather camping. But, we don't often camp in weather in the 20s or teens, at least not on purpose. I suspect the ambient heat in the Oliver helps some, though I don't really know. Our dometic didn't have a low temp button, that I can recall. If it did, I never used it. Sherry

In preparation for upcoming delivery of our 2021 Oliver Elite II, I have been viewing Oliver videos and reading component manuals; novel idea, huh?? I have the same concerns as dgward. I don't see much talk regarding the Norcold fridge, but perhaps there are not many who have the aforementioned model. Two questions for those of you with the Norcold N41X fridge currently being installed Elite II models: 1. As stated by the OP, according to the manual, the Norcold fridge is not equipped to operate at below freezing temps. It seems odd to install such a fridge in a trailer designed for 4-season use. Is this referring to outside temperature or temperature inside the trailer? Norcold manual says: "A gas absorption refrigerator is not designed to operate in freezing temperatures. If the refrigerator is not equipped for low temperature operation, and if the cooling system of the refrigerator is exposed to temperatures of 32° F. or lower for an extended period of time, the refrigerator operation may be disrupted. The refrigerator operation will resume when the cooling system of the refrigerator warms sufficiently. If the refrigerator is equipped for low temperature operation, the refrigerator will operate in temperatures down to 0° F. Disrupted operation of the refrigerator, due to extended exposure to temperatures of 32° F. or lower, and any costs incurred to warm the cooling system of the refrigerator are not covered by the Norcold limited warranty. Please contact your local RV dealer for information about how to resume refrigerator operation or about how to equip your refrigerator for operation in freezing temperatures. Do not change the installation or the venting of your refrigerator . Refrigerator failures, which are the result of changes to either the refrigerator installation or to the venting, are not covered by the Norcold limited warranty" The Dometic manual states that their fridge has the following features: Climate Control System "During the summer months of high temperatures and humidity, the metal frame between the freezer and fresh food compartments may have water droplets forming. The number of water droplets will increase if the vehicle is not air conditioned during these months. The refrigerator comes standard with a 12 V DC climate control that will evaporate the water droplets when they form. The climate control can be left on continuously or used only when temperatures require it. Note that when turned on, the climate control will draw 12 V DC power continuously. Turn it off when a charging source is not available." Low Ambient Control (Dm3862, nDm1062 & nDr1292) "The refrigerator is equipped with an exclusive feature that allows for trouble-free operation in low ambient temperature (like below 50°F) for extended periods of time. once the outdoor temperature is above 50°F, the low ambient switch should be turned off." I don't see that the Norcold has either of these features. Has anyone had the Norcold fridge stop working when outside temps drop below freezing, as indicated in the manual? I'm going to assume that the cooling system is enclosed between the hulls and not an issue, but perhaps I'm wrong. Will the fridge resume cooling automatically, when "the cooling system warms sufficiently". Later it says, "Please contact your local RV dealer for information about how to resume refrigerator operation". This implies that it does not resume operation on its own. Maybe I'm making this difficult, but I'm confused 😐 The fridge is my least favorite component of any RV, aside from the fact that we like to eat ☺️ 2. Regarding operation of the fridge on DC power while in transit: We rarely run our current fridge on DC power, keeping LP turned on during transit (I know, not a recommended practice, but common nonetheless). Here is what Norcold says about running the unit on DC power: "This refrigerator is made to operate on DC power while your vehicle is “in transit” and AC power or propane gas sources are not available. Operate the refrigerator on DC power only when the vehicle engine is running. For the refrigerator to operate correctly on DC power, the battery must be maintained in a fully charged condition. For the battery to be fully charged at all times during refrigerator operation on DC, the vehicle engine must be running and the battery charging system must be in good operating condition. Keep in mind the following electrical precautions for DC operation of the refrigerator: - Good battery condition is necessary for correct DC operation. - The capacity of the battery charging system must be more than what is necessary for the refrigerator and other DC appliances. - While the vehicle engine is running, make sure the voltage of the DC power supply leads at the refrigerator is more than 11.5 VDC." As stated by Oliver and LifeBlue, our lithium batteries will not be sufficiently charged by the tow vehicle during transit. Will the solar panels satisfy the need for fully charged batteries to operate the fridge on DC while in transit? Or is this just a warning that the batteries must be kept at a high level of charge to prevent the fridge from drawing the battery SOC to undesirable levels? Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks

Yes, I'd agree. I hope it wasn't eliminated because if its nickname. The pole is a very handy support for me when I have to get out of bed in the middle of the night. I can "step over" my sleeping husband, instead of waking him up.

I agree about installing it in the cabin. Drag all those pesky, disorderly small ground cables out of the box and put everything together at a bus, then attach your Smart Shunt nearby. Run one big cable back to your battery negative post. If you have an inverter, you must use an appropriate gauge for the high current. OTH if you are going to do that, you might as well do it for all those positive wires too. It makes the battery area way better. John Davies Spokane WA

David, Looks great on Ollie and the "Beast"! Will be talking to the installer in Concord NC, soon!

This is the unit I purchased and plan to install too.

Sounds like fun, we're in. I might suggest we have a "for sale" table also. For a higher class of "junk."

Yes . . . . . just like computers.

yesterdays technology. Then, the latest will be twice as much as Lithium, is today.

Not ALL - I've met one of your "treasures" and she is definitely NOT "junk"😁. But, then again, I'm guessing that you would be in very deep trouble if you even mentioned Krunch and raffle in the same sentence🤢. Bill