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This may be practical for folks with larger lithium battery banks, or those who typically camp with hookups. We love our dc compressor fridge, but it alone uses 60 to 70 amp hours each day, in moderate temperatures. That's a lot of the useable capacity, in my elite. I'm ok with it, as we use power for little else than fridge, occasional fan, and a few hours of lights, but not everyone would be. Stickier wicket if you dry camp in the cold, as the furnace fan takes a lot if power .

Ditto on the quieter A/C (for both the LE l and LE ll).

I would definitely like to see the older style absorption refrigerator switched to a newer compressor refrigerator. Even if in the same slot, it would be larger and certainly a welcome improvement; faster cooling, less susceptible to off-level situations. They are extremely energy efficient these days. Also a quieter A/C unit. Larger Fresh water tank. Ok to keep the same size trailer.

Will measure & take another photo tomorrow when working on hangar roof. See what you mean about small visors after looking on other sites, but mine are plugs. Been looking at McMaster Carr rubber seals. If something is found that works, probably minimum purchase length is 10'. Need at least 17 plugs for all of the bottom slots while stored in the hangar. Mud daubers can really stop up a window drain, right now we're using white tape on the bottom drains while stored to keep mud daubers out. https://www.mcmaster.com/rubber-seals/

I seriously looked at AS. I really liked the 23 Twin Globetrotter with the dry bath floor plan. I have to admit it was temping. Living in an area where hail is not uncommon the durability of the hull was a real concern. At the time they still used wooden subfloor which also concerned me. Glad to see they have moved to a composite material. At end of day the feedback from current AS about issues and higher price made it a no for me. I still do love how they look though. I was nervous about wet bath in the Ollie but after first trip realized how little time you send in bathroom and it was non issue for me. I think if you had family of 4 a wet bath is harder but for one or two folks super easy to manage. Good luck!

routlaw, thanks for commenting. I agree, this heater is in no way suitable as a primary heat source for cold weather camping in Montana. My intended use is supplemental “soft” heat to reduce furnace cycling and to add some extra warmth to the front of the trailer, or as a solo heat source on chilly days in place of the furnace. Dead silent, no jet engine sounds directly under the bed or from an AC heat strip fan. Obviously, only while plugged into some power source…… I think this would be attractive to a lot of owners, but I still am interested in hearing opinions, both positive and negative. So many of the little portable electric heaters are garbage. John Davies Spokane WA

We got ours in December 2020. The smell lingered until warmer weather even though I aired the trailer out whenever we had dry weather in the cooler months. Come May and June it largely went away even when not vented though if I open the closet there’s still a mild dose in there. It seems that warmth helps move itt along, like many molecular processes And yes smells can be super evocative of associated memories.

I am glad you are excited about your new Ollie, and it will certainly go into tighter campgrounds with less worry about dragging against trees, or against cars in a crowded urban parking lot, or along smooth groomed gravel roads, but I hope that statement was hyperbole, because the LE2 is in no way “trail rated”, in spite of the off-road adventures advertising, which I believe is more than a little deceptive. The baby Ollie OTH could be a decent off-roader with some inexpensive upgrades….. John Davies Spokane WA

I have admired the glimmering beauty of Airstreams for many years and ownership of one had long been in my retirement plans. When the time came to pull the trigger on one, I started research to determine which model would best suit our needs. I did not even consider looking at other manufacturers because Airstreams have been branded for decades as the pinnacle of quality. After gawking wide eyed at the AS website, I popped over to their owners forum for a quick look. Wow. I was shocked, disheartened, and dismayed. Page after page of complaints. There were a lot of disappointed folks on there. Crestfallen, I continued to wander through the forum until I came across someone who said they wished they had bought an "Oliver" instead. I immediately went to the Oliver website and I never looked back. You owe it to yourself to take a look at an Oliver. The sales staff will be happy to direct you to an owner somewhere reasonably close to your location who will be willing to let you take tour of their unit.

I do, too. I wish they were made the same as the old days . My brother's in-laws own two vintage airstrams. Yes, they are often a lot of work (which often falls on my brother as poppy will be 90 soon), but they are very pretty. Someday, after we're gone, vintage Oliver will be as collectible. Imo. With less work, I suspect.

Totally off subject, but my grandma's kitchen smelled of boiled coffee and burnt toast, along with the sounds of her scraping her toast into the sink, the clinking of the spoon in her cup, and the sound as she sipped the steaming hot coffee from the spoon. I loved Grandma's house ❤️

Pretty much our story . . . . . I too was discouraged to read stories of quality control issues - cupboards detaching from the walls, appliances falling out of the cabinet, loose rivets - all the result of negligence on Air Stream's part; totally unacceptable in a $100K+ trailer. Since becoming part of the Thor family, Air Stream seems to have become just another mass produced RV; beautiful to behold, but certainly no longer the icon of quality and luxury it was in the past. We are extremely happy with our Oliver. Though the Oliver interior does not have the AS feel, it does attract attention for its uniqueness, functionality and easy care. More importantly it fits our style of camping where an Air Stream does not; we are by no means what you would call "Glampers" and spending time on a high maintenance trailer would take a big chunk out of our quality outdoor time. Regardless, I still admire those beautiful Air Streams when we meet one on the road.

I still notice the fiberglass smell when I first step into our Elite II (purchased December 2020) after it has been closed up a while, but it goes away with ventilation. I don't find the smell offensive like the smell in a new stick built RV; that smell I attribute to the off-gassing of various interior materials such as carpet, upholstery, paneling, adhesive, etc. I call the fiberglass odor the "New Oliver" smell. We keep the trailer ventilated when possible (windows and door open). I expect the smell to diminish at which time I will be looking for a "New Oliver" air freshener. The fiberglass smell actually takes me back to my childhood and Dad's workshop where he was either refinishing a wooden boat, or building a new one. Funny how certain smells can bring back memories 😍

If the leathercraft show is something you would enjoy, I think you would be able to stand the heat for a week. We spent a week at Big Bend when the temps were in the 100s and also a week at Palo Duro Canyon when the temps were in the 100s and we had a great time. You’ll sweat a little. Sit out in the evening in shorts and a T-shirt after grilling then shower before bed and you’ll be fine. My $.02. Mike

Our service center of choice, though a 2 1/2 hr drive away, has always served us well and promptly in our 7 months of Oliver ownership, even though they are also a dealer. That being said, they have since been bought by Camping World, but we still receive the same respect. They always comment on how great Oliver Trailers are.

Since Oliver is using the Truma Aqua Go already, there is no reason they couldn’t upgrade to the Aqua Go Comfort Plus and add the return hot water piping. Andrew

Welcome from hull #12. We've been "part timers" since 2008 in NC. We have a camping property in the mountains, to escape the Florida heat, and base to jump off to Northern points beyond. We love North Carolina. And, the people. We've always felt welcome. Enjoy your new Ollie. Hope you have as much fun as we've had, for the last 14 seasons with ours.

We bought a Weber 1200 and did the mod to allow it to work off the Oliver QC. We also got a Camp Chef stove and put a 3/8 inch 1/4 inch QC male flared fitting on it to connect to the Oliver QC. I do enjoy like using QC connections front and rear.

I just used a local family owned place here in DFW to get warranty work done. Since they aren’t a dealership I was treated same as any customer. I appreciated they don’t schedule you to bring RV in until they can work on it , that way it doesn’t sit there for weeks untouched. They are not too far and I’d use they again without hesitation.

Nice looking heater, although 475 watts is not much heat to throw out, and of course you would have to be plugged into shore power or run a generator to use it. On more than one occasion with really cold Montana weather even a full blown 1500 watt electric heater could not adequately heat our Oliver and I've tried 3 of the darn things all to no avail. Not sure what the best solution is for your heating requirements but I would be skeptical of this unless using it in some coolish to only slightly cold weather. For that matter I would have preferred the installed heater system in our Oliver to have been more than the 16000 BTU's currently implemented. While adequate it seems slightly lower than it should have been.

I have not seen any comments here on dealerships treating Oliver owners differently than those who purchased an RV at the dealership. I haven’t seen that over on Fiberglass forum or AirForum either. In fact, I see where some AS owners regularly go to a different dealer for service than where they purchased. This is especially true for folks who go to Colonial Airstream in NJ from other areas of the nation. We use an independent repair place just a few miles away and have had excellent service from them. Mike

Welcome Mike and Sue. Your story sounds similar to ours, only 6 years later! NC is increasing in Oliver owners! Mike

I just don't understand the need to turn the Oliver into - SOB. To adopt many of the suggestions would require significant re-engineering - a much larger Oliver - and for sure a much more $$$. Perhaps Oliver will consider a few of the ideas put forth - well perhaps.... The move to offer the new Lithium packages is a good move - but have you priced an Ollie lately- now lets add a variable list of options. I must say - Oliver has actually worked hard to standardize and reduce build options - and it just makes sense. Think of your Ollie as a base line TT. Now go have fun - customize as you wish. I was very happy with my EII - well ok - the jet engine on the roof was a bit much. Happy Trails RB

The weephole cover i have looks much smaller than yours. I wouldn't order the ones bcnhb and I posted without measuring yours. Probably about the time Lippert bought Hehr. .. Another industry giant, becoming too big. I'm so sorry. The duct tape was a good idea. I often use that to figure out where a leak is actually coming from. And, applied properly, it's a decent temporary fix. Sherry

We had Hull #026 from 2008 to 2013 and I know it is still being used. We now own Hull #050, the oldest Elite II on the road. Its build was started in late 2013 and delivered as the first one in early 2014. Between these two trailers, we've traveled to 49 states and covered over 150K miles.