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After a call to Oliver Service on January 6 and leaving a brief v/m, I received a call back from Jason at Oliver. He said that the recall letters were goin out in batches and that Hull #600 to 699 letters were being mailed this week. We own Hull #634, and I received my letter mid week. ✅ The recall repair takes less than an hour. So if you have not received your recall letter yet, be patient Oliver is working on the letters in batches. If anyone does not receive a letter, may I suggest you reach out to Oliver Service. I know they will get you taken care of. Onward!4 points
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I swear - I tried to find a thread for this, but couldn’t. Our black tank dump handle got SO hard to pull to open I was afraid it would snap off the T handle. The cable that operates the valve is about 12 feet long and has two 90 degree bends. I tried rerouting the cable to ease the radii, but it only helped a bit. Oliver’s “fix” is installing an electric valve. They want ~$900 to do that upgrade. I found the Valterra electric valve on Amazon for under $200 - and I’ve been known to be pretty handy, so I bought it. The valve install is pretty easy - cramped quarters and the ability to work without seeing anything helps. The valve is in. The electric switch is another matter. I haven’t quite settled on where to put it. I -think- I can cut a rectangular hole where the old valve was, but it looks to tight if possible. Anybody else done this upgrade, and if so, where did you put the switch? Anybody have this done by Oliver - and where did THEY put the switch? Val2 points
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2022 LEII #1029 here. been using our Oliver pretty steadily - on our 4th multi-month outing. Currently in Manatee Springs (Chiefland) Florida. Starting having an issue with our Truma AquaGo Comfort water heater. It heated fine, but was noisy with a “thumping” or banging noise when the burner lit. Searching the forums, we found Galway Girl’s post about burner tubes shaking loose, and her description of “popping” sounded pretty close to our symptoms. Luckily, I travel with a lot of tools, so I investigated looking for the loose burner tubes. Nope, all tight and in place. What I did find was a little scary. (See the attached photo.) the nut holding the main gas line to the burner manifold was quite loose. You can see by the soot on the bottom of the burner assembly and nut that a lot of gas was escaping and burning in the wrong place. I tightened the nut up as much as I dared - not wanting to twist the fitting out of the manifold and put the whole thing back together. It now works fine. That said, I’m sure this nut will vibrate loose again, so between now and then I’ll have to think of a fix. Pipe dope suitable for LP is a possibility. Between this and the problem Galway Girl posted - and more than one incident of fires - it seems Truma had (has?) a QC or design problem that could lead to so serious consequences.2 points
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Units with the factory installed composting toilet come with the black tank installed but not connected to anything but I wouldn't use it for fresh water, even if it was never used. The black tank material is not potable water rated like the fresh tank. OTOH, others with composting toilets have converted the black tank for either additional gray water capacity or even urine disposal. If you get the Platinum Lithium package with 640Ah of batteries I think you'll find you have plenty of power. It's actually been overkill for us.2 points
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As John noted, the check valve was apparently stuck. All good now. The hot and cold are still reversed, because I was wandering around talking all day instead of opening under the sink. It's supposed to rain much of Saturday, so maybe I'll do it then. There are 236 fiberglass trailers here at the rally, including many familiar Oliver faces.2 points
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It might be a little easier with Air tags. Just got a reminder from my iPhone and Ipad to swap out old 2632 batteries for new. Done. ✅2 points
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Also ---- here is our post on the 3rd failure we had with Truma ...this one is the exact problem outlined in the recall. (The lack of burner tubes crimping.) SO for Truma two issues so far: 1) The first issue was that the BURNER assembly feed tube connection wasn't properly torqued at the factory. This would cause the feet tube nut to back off and eventually spray out fuel like crazy. This was fixed by a tooling change at the truma factory. In our case that repair process is to remove the burner assembly and tighten the nut. 2) The second issue is that the burner assembly tubes were not crimped on all 8 burners only the end 2. That's been fixed by Truma and all new units meet this spec.2 points
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For those not able to read the NHTSA report here's an excerpt of the timeline of events leading to the recall. All new burner units are shipped from Truma with all 8 burner tube tabs crimped. (Ours literally fell apart on the road at one point so I did a self repair of the assembly.) ******* NHTSA Recorded Chronology : 2/17/22 Truma (Steve Bayne) reported during a OEM Baseline review approximately over the scope of 300 units, 8 units (2.5%) have experienced burner issues. Two warranty units with burners coming apart were| picked up during this onsite visit for return to Germany for evaluation. 2/17/22 - 12/31/22 Additional 4 customers reported burner failures. 7/18/22 Oliver request Truma's investigation reports from two units evaluated in Germany. 11/21/22 Truma (Mark Howlett) notified Oliver Travel Trailers (Paul Cameron) Germany made a design|| change to the burner assembly February 2022. Revision included the burner assembly tabs changed from two to all eight tabs folded. Truma concluded the safety features incorporated into the system, risk and severity is low. Safety factors include a) flame recognition sensor b) burner over temp switch and c) the housing contains a thermal event. 11/28/22 Oliver modified the support for the water heater and installed water heaters with only two of the eight tabs folded. On 4-Apr-24 these two units were reported in warrany for burner bracket assembly failures. 2/8/23 - present Oliver has installed Truma water heaters with modified burner bracket assemblies with eight tabs folded, no failures for the burner assembly has been reported to date. 1/3/24 - 7/17/24 Customers with water heaters containing burner bracket assemblies with two tabs folded replaced under warranty experienced repeat burner bracket failures. 11/13/24 Oliver Travel Trailers determined to replace all Truma water heater burner assemblies with two tabs folded to the confirmed eight tabs folded retention feature. ******2 points
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@Mago I would not limit your search to only 2024 and 2025 trailers, if I were you. I would expand the search to 2022 and 2023. that have been lightly used. Just check to see what options they have on them. In my opinion, @Steph and Dud B are correct regarding the amount of battery power you will need when boondocking. Even a inverter generator will likely not be necessary, but could be an option for you. Try looking at the facebook "Oliver Travel Trailers For Sale" page. There is presently a good selection of newer models for sale there. Good luck in your search.1 point
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Thank you, and yes, some of my questions seem to be manufacturer specific, latest models which I haven't seen a lot of here on the forum thus far. I wasn't sure about reaching out to them with the new dealer network - not sure how that works now... We actually visited our local dealer and while friendly, isn't that knowledgable about the options and recent model year changes. Reached out to them directly, online, just now.1 point
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First - Welcome and glad that you are here. Thanks for the kind words! Second - Obviously, if you purchase a used Oliver, the price will be based on what you and the owner negotiate. The price as posted by Oliver might have a little bit of "wiggle" room in it but not much - here I'm talking about 1 to 2 thousand dollars - and even this is generally found by getting a discount on an option or a "floor" model type of thing. I've not dealt with any of the dealers but I'd guess that the bottom line price from them will be very much in line with the price from the factory. Speaking of the factory - don't be reluctant to give them a call. They will NOT harass you, sell your info, etc. However, they are a great source for information relative to options on models and what just might be available at various dealers (to include anything that might be at the factory). Good luck! Bill1 point
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Thanks Val, I like it! Is this the one you installed? Ideal spot for the switch is where the pull handles are, so you can have an eye on the outside business!😊 How long are the dc wires for the switch and what gauge? Did you only switch out the black or black and grey?1 point
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Hi John, No, not in the manual. I think the manual deserves a re-write as it’s glaringly lacking in a lot of areas. I suppose that’s the nice part about this forum, as owners either a few miles under their belts can share experiences and help others fix their issues without having to do all the sleuthing from square one. A real “preflight” on a trailer like ours would be akin to a pre-launch on the space shuttle. There are just too many systems to check in 5 or 10 minutes - or even a couple of hours - to make sure that -everything- was perfect before a trip. The “basics” would likely be all the things you hopefully already check. I’m sure someone here has already made a list that’s as good as mine, so until I have one written and perfected, I won’t post one here. val1 point
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We resolved the issue with the Vizio television. Rather than mess around with trying to fit a 32” set where the old 24” one was, I just opted for a different 24” set. Figured that we didn’t really -need- a bigger screen. (Trailer’s not that big.) And it was more just the aggravating behaviour of the Vizio set that irked me so much. Went to Walmart and bought an “Onn” Roku set for the princely sum of $78. The mounting hole pattern is the same as the Vizio, so it was an easy swap out. If anybody loves the 24” Vizio and wants a spare, we’re traveling through Florida now and I’ll gift it to you.1 point
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The sound of the circulating pump and the sound of the flame coming on are normal. If you’re outside and listening very carefully, you’ll likely hear the “ticking” of the igniter and a fan noise that keeps the combustion going in the right direction. Those are normal sounds. The Truma manual says that “boiling water” sounds means you need to descale. Popping, whooshing, thumping, or banging are abnormal sounds associated with improper combustion from gas burning in the wrong places. That was my tip-off to the problem. “Galway Girl’s” documentation of the loose burner tube problem is what prompted me to pull out the burner yo check the tubes. I was initially “disappointed” to see the times were all in place. “Nuts! Now what’s the problem!?” I thought. Flipping the burner over and seeing that big plume of soot on the bottom of the tubes and around the nut attaching the gas line to the manifold prompted me to check the nut. Loose. Could move it freely with my fingers. Though I didn’t see much in the way of “crimps” on any of the burner tubes. (They’re smaller than I was expecting - my experience being with 2 foot long tubes on household gas boilers.) Mine were all in place and tight. Still, disappointing that a premium gas appliance in a premium trailer apparently didn’t get designed or assembled too carefully. Gas burning where it shouldn’t be goes beyond “inconvenient” and well into “dangerous” and “liability” territory. We put a couple of thousand miles on our LEII every year, and I’ve had several things vibrate or shake loose causing failures. It just reminds me that a good, thorough “preflight” inspection is called for and know trouble areas need to be checked frequently. Ironically, the stuff they tell you to check - like wheel lug torque - never seem to have issues. Go figure.1 point
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My recall letter arrived in the mail yesterday. This will be our 5th year using our Truma and happy to report, we have never experience any problems. Its been reliable and has served us well. We will have Oliver perform the recall and motor on.1 point
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There is now a recall from Oliver on this burner assembly. Effected hull numbers should be getting Oliver issued recall letters. ***** text from letter showing SN range of effective water heaters (full letter below) ***** Dear Valued Customer, This notice is sent to you in accordance with the National Highway Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. Oliver Travel Trailers has decided that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain 2016 – 2024 Legacy Elite I and Legacy Elite II travel trailers manufactured between April 25, 2016, and February 8, 2023. WHAT IS THE DEFECT? The Truma water heater burner bracket assembly may become loose. **NOTE by Craig - The effected burner assembly tubes were not ALL crimped in place during manufacture, only the ones on each end were crimped. The TRUMA Mfg line has made a mfg line change and now ALL tubes are crimped in place. New burners for the recall will meet this standard.** EVALUATION OF THE RISK TO THE VEHICLE AND OPERATOR(S) RELATED TO THE RECALL. Legacy Elite I and Legacy Elite II equipped with a Truma water heater with a loose burner bracket assembly may allow ignition failures, wire damage, and risk of a brief flame discharge, increasing the risk of a fire. HOW DO I KNOW IF MY TRAVEL TRAILER IS PART OF THE 24V876 RECALL? 1. Find the water heater serial number located on the front cover. (see below) The water heater with serial number less than DLE60C-33096055 is nonconforming. 2. If you are unsure, call 1-888-526-3978 or email us at ottwarranty@olivertraveltrailers.com to confirm that your Truma water heater is one in the population of recalled units for Recall 24V876. WHAT IS THE REMEDY? Your Legacy Elite I or Legacy Elite II was manufactured within the affected period using this component. Your unit must be inspected to ensure the Truma water heater is not within the recall population as identified by the Truma model-serial number. The remedy will be the replacement of the water heater burner assembly, free of charge. The replacement water heater burner assembly will be sent with instructions to complete the installation by a qualified RV technician. The replacement should take approximately one-half hour to complete. Oliver Travel Trailers will cover the cost for the remedy repair. Water heater burner assemblies can be replaced at an authorized service center. WHAT IF YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY PAID FOR REPAIRS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION? If you have already paid for a repair that is within the scope of this defect under recall, you still need to have this recall inspected and/or performed to ensure the correct parts and procedures were utilized. Additionally, you may be eligible for a refund of previously paid repairs. Refunds will only be provided for repairs performed within the scope of the defect under recall. Please send the service invoice to the following address: Oliver Travel Trailers Atten: OTT QUALITY MANAGER 609 Swan Ave. Hohenwald, TN 38462 Phone: 1-888-526-3978 Email: OTTWarranty@olivertraveltrailers.com Below is attached it the NhTSA report on the topic. RCLRPT-24V876-7998.PDF Below attached is the generic recall letter from Oliver...when mailed to you it has your VIN # inserted. RCONL-24V876-1556.pdfRCONL-24V876-1556.pdf Hope this is useful info. I'm still waiting on a reply from Oliver on when/how I can get the parts for repair.1 point
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This is a life safety issue. PLEASE SUBMIT A TICKET WITH THIS POST. It is a candidate for a massive recall. GJ1 point
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Yes, thanks for the inspiration! I purchased some magnetic catches (set of four) for $7, and asked my Son to design and 3D print a couple of mounting blocks. I decided to use the magnetic halves from two paired sets for a stronger, single catch. Here is what I did: Mounting blocks with recess for flush fitment of magnetic catch components, shown here as a pair. View of optional mounting holes and longer screws for vertical attachment. Catch components screw-mounted into block recess, shown as a pair. Center interior door attachment, horizontal mount using screws. Center interior freezer attachment, vertical mount using Alien Tape rather than screws as a preliminary precaution. Completed install. I’m very pleased with the holding power of the dual magnet approach, now for some field testing!1 point
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Yes Geoff, I took a tax credit when I added a solar/inverter system to our Bigfoot Class-C in 2020. I plan to do the same here. The Oliver or any RV is considered a second home for tax purposes. That's also why I purchased the DC-DC charger, TEMCo 4 awg wire and Anderson SB175 connecters on New Years Eve, so that I would write off all my Oliver solar improvements for the 2024 tax year. This is the way to go! Much better price than the ones I bought.1 point
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I was reminded of my favorite post in this forum by @Dave and Kimberly and @Ronbrink about the Solar Tax Credit. With their information, we amended our 2022 tax return and received a handsome refund check for 30% of the cost of the lithium package. In case you're unaware; I believe you could do the same! Our friends did! The entire system cost is eligible, batteries, solar panels, chargers, inverters, shunt, wire, and all the associated bits and bobs. We didn't have to submit receipts, just have them available. With 30% of the $3400 spent and the DC to DC charger cost, you're looking at some serious change brother! It would pay for that DC to DC charger with properly sized wire, some new tools, and a night on the town with the misses. 🤙 Cheers! Geoff1 point
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Thanks for sharing everyone, my experience with the freezer door is the latch breaks easily. We had to replace one early on with our 1st fridge. It’s a shame Norcold does not make this model anymore (or they are out of business?) Our 1st fridge died after 2 years and that is when we found out it could not be replaced or parts ordered. We ended up buying the same unit off ebay, new, because it was sort of the easiest option for us.0 points
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I like using my Garman RV satellite GPS for that. There are several different models depending what you need or can afford. That said, I don't use a Satellite Navigator to navigate our Ollie into the barn for storage. But I do back it in and out very carefully. the barn floor is about a foot above outside area grade. So I had to move a bunch of dirt and gravel to create a compacted 20 foot long flat spot in front of the 10 foot AFF clearance beam at the entry. Something to keep in mind if you think the storage facility could give your Ollie A/C or antennas a BUZZZ hair cut. JD: I didn't know your picture was on the cover of Mad Magazine. You are famous!! GJ0 points
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