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Fixed! Thanks to all you guys especially @Tom and Doreen All you guys on this forum are so much help.

Well maybe it was done in some past year but AFAIK 2026 is unique in that it I think is the only one with ‘crack open’ flush mount windows and roller shades, with valances on the top. Plus the long running Truma integrated system. One year only and boom - take it all out and go to a fully open window with new (presumably custom Oliver designed) shade frame. And too all new appliances. And yes the 2027 windows look like the same ones in the 2026 just with a different opening mechanism. This year's model opens a couple inches from a single handed center crank. Next year it looks like you open all the shades (including bug shade!) to access two side props in a two handed operation. So none of that at night half asleep. But the window does a 1/8 or 1/4 open. Otherwise it looks like the same window which is not recessed and overlays the windows frame and shell. It’s zero issue. Not sure there’s any more glass protection slightly recessed as previously or overlay as now. On the road debris will follow the air flow regardless. If anything recessed will create a slight low pressure pulling it in with vortices and such. Anyhow the only protection is the present overlay system as that protects the more vulnerable frame and especially gasket. It’s maintenance free whereas the present one has weep holes and such. I love the new window system and was ecstatic when I heard it was coming on the year I happened to be buying. It was long on my list, Escape pioneered this in eggs and I learned about the style there (except they use acrylic windows). For Oliver it completes the ‘marine style’ design. The only exposed gaskets they have now are the 120V socket and a few odds and ends like the roof gubbins.

my 2c That Dometic cabin heater style exhaust can have issues at high elevations I believe, there's a high elevation exhaust you should install when in the mountains (according to videos I've seen on this type - may not be true for this model). I've got an unused one if 2027 owners want one 🙂 "Soft main cabin lights" - did they change that? Anyhow actinic bright overheads on the main cabin fan, I'd rather do without Ironically they show the new solar awnings in partial shade which takes down the whole panel, unless they have a sectioned panel with micros (unlikely). I think getting to deploy these and work will be the main issue. Anyhow I'm surprised at how well that 400W does, doing 1.2kWh on a good day easy Why did they change the front (and rear?) jack? Personally I prefer the old one, 500 lb upgrade isn't much to speak of and not font of bubble switches. The older one looks better and more businesslike IMO More accurate tank readings is a big plus Mentioned before I'm not fond of the 'fully open' style new window. Looks like you have to open the screens potentially letting bugs in (and they'll do it!), plus two handed operation. Fully open is nice for a house but don't see the need here, just IMO Anyhow looks like a great trailer as usual and it's not sour beans because I bought a 26, but full honestly I do prefer this years model, except on the tank monitering

It was nice meeting the two of you and pups Oliver & Winston this week while we were picking up Hull 1703 in Hohenwald.

I posted a few years ago on the Oliver PPF install. Your M3 is absolutely gorgeous 🔥, wow! I really like the XPEL stealth was a perfect choice. Thanks for the kind note on the Pro…its my 6th Tundra over the years and this one is a keeper. The 2.5 Gen Pro’s are becoming really hard to find especially one owner southern trucks. Gotta lot of love here for the 5.7 V8! 👍🏻

REALLY nice toy! Bill

Stealth Satin XPEL PPF with Gloss on Carbon fiber roof and black trim.

Good to hear that CGI offers PPF as part of their services. We had our Oliver ceramic coated by CGI after we took delivery at the factory. CGI polished out all the swirl marks that were left by the factory and then applied the ceramic coating that has held up well over the last two years. When we got back home I had XPEL 10mm PPF installed on the lower front of the trailer (similar to how Patriot did his) by a local installer. It has definitely helped protect the fiberglass from impacts. We would have used CGI for the PPF if we could have, so the front of the trailer would have been protected on the drive home.

Sure - but... It's tinted glass - the bugs simply will not know what hit 'em.🪰🦟🐝

The Allen screws can be turned in either direction. The plus and minus in the photo explains what happens when you turn that screw in that direction. For example, on the left side of the photo above, turning the Out screw counterclockwise reduces (-) how far the awning goes out. If you turned it clockwise instead, the awning would extend more. You want to turn your In screw in the + direction to make your awning pull in farther. Adjust it a little at a time and try the awning after each adjustment until you get it right.

@Tom and Doreen Hold on. I now see the motor. I can only see the Allen screw with the - sign. I think that is right. Your excerpt says "The motors are labeled with a + or a - to indicate the adjustment direction". Can the Allen screw only be turned one direction as indicated by the arrow?

I like the windows. It would be interesting if they can be retrofitted to our older trailers. Jason does a good job in the video! Mike

Jd, good modification! Our friends had their bikes stolen off the back rack and they heard it happening. They wished there was a rear light to scare them off. I was just thinking, it would also be real easy to add a 3-way rocker switch under the attic cabinet that could be reached from bed! I remember when looking for the street-side light switch leg that I also found the overhead lights wire. So I'd just keep looking, it should be there and perhaps a different color. Also, the switch leg is on the positive side. Anxious to hear how it goes! Geoff

Didn't know there is a 2026 ONLY variant. I was referring to our old sliders. The frame on the sliders sits on the hull, yet the glass is recessed and protected. The 2027 windows in the video look like the glass sits on top of their frame outside of the hull.

These ones you mean, the 2026 (only) variant? Or maybe you’re talking about the previous up to 2025 model. No worries doesn’t bother me, but I’d suggest it’s hard to know for sure unless you live with them. The only point I’m making is that the single handed opening is awfully nice. The crack does what it’s supposed to - let in plenty of air, and just the single knob means waking up at night because it’s gotten too cold it’s trivial to close while still half asleep. I do it all the time - love it. And also appreciate how the valances soften the interior. I will agree however that the roller shades are a little clumsy, you can knock into them at night. But it’s a classic look that softens up all the plastic and ‘glass IMO. Anyhow I’m just surprised they switched so quickly. Only people I’ve heard complain about the ‘26 windows was a tech at the factory who wanted them ‘to open wider’. Except he didn’t own one so 🤷‍♂️ They’re basically flush and no issues with wind. In fact I’ve driven at freeway speeds having forgotten and left them open 😅 but no problem. The key though is hidden gaskets. Oliver uses a marine design elsewhere is that the gaskets are hidden, like with the battery door. This is how they do it on boats, to keep gaskets out of the H20, salt and UV. I’ve seen videos where owners replace the recessed window gaskets with black ones because they pick up dirt and wear. Oh - cars too, notice how few of the gaskets on your cars are exposed - same design principle. Have the door/hood/whatever cover them where possible. But no worries they’re all good, we’re just nerding out here 🙂 Yeah I was diagnosing a user error and did a deep dive into it. Turns out Xantrex has been heavily iterating over the years, the latest version in the 2026 and presumably 2027 is not the same as earlier versions by a long shot. There’s two types of engineering failure I think - just bad engineering and ‘learning’ engineering. Personally I’m not faulting Truma for the recall issue, I don’t think that casts a shadow on them in general. Heck I bossed a German engineering team in Germany once, these guys are nuts and have a lot of pride. I think the fault is other RV OEM’s who didn’t do a recall like Oliver. And on Xantrex the number of iterations makes me suspect they just had a learning curve to go through. Bad engineering are the companies that just don’t learn and don’t iterate. Anyhow hoping to have good service with Truma and Xantrex. On Lithionics I believe in the company, watch some of the factory walkthroughs, they’re serious about this. Lots of fly-by-night companies doing batteries out there. We’re paying for the BMS and prismatic pouches, not some guys throwing a bunch of cylinders in there like everybody else.

On to Clayton Lake State Park, near Clayton New Mexico first boondocking since we left home April 18 We were enjoying the COE sites at $12.50 per night with power and water gotta practice our energy and water management now Too much rain has been a little depressing, finally saw the sun today

Wild Bills RV and trailer park Boise Oklahoma overnight stop fantastic museum next door do not pass up the museum !!!

Thanks Dan for linking this video! I don't look much at the new models and this is a nice presentation, just 7 minutes long! Also no sour beans here, from someone who spent 2 years restoring a 2016 model! We will not be a new Oliver customer, just continue to upgrade and fully enjoy ours. They are really going with a Dometic A/C?!? 🤣 In all these years, still at the bottom of this learning curve. Looks like all the Truma issues will be behind OTT going forward. I'd have to use the awning more than 5 times in 2 years with all that solar up there! I wonder how practical this will be? Must be a heavy awning! We need all LP appliances to work effectively in altitudes up to 10K ft, a must for Colorado travel and elsewhere in the Rockies. 20A on a built-in DC-DC charger, but using the 12 AWG trailer wiring? OMG, you're not going to get 20A and if you do be worried about the wiring! I'll keep our Victron Orion 50A charger, that averages +40 Ah every hour towing. One very knowledge Forum member argued that the 4 AWG wire I used may be too light! You might get +10A on average with this configuration. This leads to OTT sticking with the Xantrex and Lithionics brands. This is not new! Almost everybody on this forum that has added or replaced an inverter has gone to the Victron Multiplus, most with the MP2. I do remember reading one post where a Xantrex was used to replace a FAILED Xantrex. Given the failure, I would have changed brands, but I believe it was chosen to simplify the installation with like kind. There are 100s of posts here citing Xantrex issues. And with all the new LiFePO4 batteries in the marketplace, a new quality brand at a better price point could be chosen. You'll get used to knowing your tank levels. More accurate, yeah sure, we've heard that one before! 🤣 That's what they said about our external tank monitors. We have learned very well how many days it takes us to fill our black and gray tanks. We're not ready for composting, the pee and poop handling, but it is the black tank that makes us return to the dump station! Gray water can be dumped on BLM and FS lands, so we can last a while leaving with 70 gallons fresh. I can guess exactly when we need fresh water, just before the water pump starts gurgling! Then we refill, from our auxiliary tank in the pickup bed. I have seriously not looked at that tank level display in two years, just don't need to. Windows? There are many here that truly dislike the current windows. Some leak when it rains and some have lost their seal between the panes. Our windows are in like new condition, no defects to date, knocking on wood. I enjoy the one-hand operation, especially when lying in bed. Awning windows, something else to worry about in high winds and rain? And if left open at all, even one inch when away, a thief could easily rip the window off and enter the cabin interior. I also do not like how they stick out on the exterior, where our windows are recessed into the hull, flush so taking no wind. We usually close our windows when towing, but if you forget these, there will be damage. I do really like the trimline blinds as the old-style sticks out almost 3" into the cabin interior. One gets in my way when I'm in bed. Our blinds need another hosing down this summer, Like I did when we first purchased our Oliver used My favorite part is the new kitchen counter setup. The new sink and cooktop looks great! However for boondocking, I'm not sure the compressor fridge and induction cooktop are preferable, appliances that cannot operate on AC/DC and LP. But with 900 Ah, oh what the heck! Chris loves cooking with induction, so we have a single-burner cooktop we plugin indoors or out (search for keyword 'induction'). For 2027, did they fix the cramped bathroom countertop/sink? Someday, I'll fix both, like Mike did for their kitchen:

Oliver is dedicated to continuous improvement, I like a lot of the changes. I think stepping away from Truma appliances is a good thing. I'd feel more confident traveling knowing that parts and service are more likely to be available for the new appliances. An integrated DC to DC converter is a great addition as well.

I have full XPEL PPF in stealth satin/gloss on my M3 with XPEL XR Plus tint 70/20. First place I took it after pick up was the detail shop. Also, have gloss bra coverage on the Tundra as well. Did you ever post about the PPF install on your Oliver? If you did, I must of missed it. It is great stuff, along with ceramic coatings, tint, etc. CGI is using another brand but still top tier PPF. Nice find on the 2020 Tundra PRO BTW, very popular move these days.

I am glad the CGI crew is now offering PPF on the front of Olivers. We have had XPEL PPF on the “blast zones” on the of our Oliver to include the dog house, aka LP surround and all the way down each side under the bottom edges of both sides of our Oliver. We have had it for several years now and it has really worked as advertised. Shortly after we took delivery of Hull #634 we had 10 mil XPEL paint protection installed. Here is a photo of our installer working his magic. The standard paint protection used on most cars and trucks today is 8 mil. The 10 mil material is naturally thicker and it’s really tough material. It’s presently the thickest p/p made by XPEL. So far, it’s held up great with no damage to our gelcoat. It’s fairly expensive to have installed, but well worth it in our experience. We use a product called Plexus to keep it clean and polished up. Our installers business name is Sun Stoppers located in Cornelius, NC. Also, we have PPF on all our vehicles. The 8 mil still offers robust protection from road rash, missiles etc. https://www.xpel.com This same fella installed 8 mil XPEL PPF on our entire Super Duty just after we purchased it in 2021. It was well worth the money and has kept our TV paint chip free 5 yrs later. If you trade vehicles every few years it may not be worth the expense. We tend to keep our cars and trucks for the long haul. I recently found and purchased a one owner, NC dealer serviced 2020 Toyota TRD Pro. It is in really excellent condition. So I took it to my XPEL PPF tech to let him work his magic. I could not be happier with his work as he exceeded my expectations. It’s all about the install and the installer. A few things to note: if you take it to an installer make sure you don’t have any paint chips on the areas you want protected by PPF. If any installer wants to cover areas on your truck or car with PPF with existing paint chips…in my opinion, you have the wrong installer. Find an installer that does high-end Teslas, Lexus, Benz, Lambos, Bentleys etc. After having a complete paint correction done, I had the headlights, front and rear bumpers, trim below the headlights, the painted grill surround, windshield pillars all covered in 8mil XPEL PPF. The prior owner already had the entire hood and mirror caps covered. The larger the surface area you cover, the higher the cost. I like XPEL PPF as it is hydrophobic and just repels dirt and dust with ease. You can also ceramic coat over XPEL PPF. ** Prices vary on installation, so its best if you’re considering PPF to get a quote from your local installer. My XPEL PPF installers shop 3 weeks ago. I also had XPEL 50% tint installed on the interior front w/s. A game changer in reducing heat and dangerous UV rays into the cabin. Note; check your State DMV on tint % laws. Post PPF install.

I had Suncoast Designers rebuild three of my windows several years ago and they did a good job. They remove the entire window, completely disassembled it, disassembled the individual sections, fixed the seal, and reassembled everything and put the whole assembly back in the trailer. They rebuilt both the fixed and the movable sections in order to provide a complete lifetime warranty. Complete disassembly of the frame requires the astragal to be removed by drilling out the pop rivets and replaced with gaskets and pop rivets again. If only the moving panel needs to be fixed, that is easily removed by removing the plastic/rubber track material first then the window just lifts out. After they removed, rebuilt and replaced the windows I had to reseal the frame to trailer myself. Not inexpensive but at the time I had mine done they had a lifetime warranty. If you can rebuild them soon, before any etching takes place between the panels, they can reuse the original glass. They have a fairly large parking lot and nearly every spot has electricity and water so that you can stay in your camper. Also, there used to be a guy at Quartzsite during the big tent rv show that would rebuild windows but you had to remove your own windows and deliver them to him. I have never met him but I know of a couple of Oliver owners who have had windows fixed by him.

Probably talking about this place- Suncoast Designers. Haven't used them myself, but I have heard good things about them. They provide a lifetime guarantee to the original owner too.

Wow, those have increased in price! I got the same one in November for $62. It is more powerful than I expected, and comes in handy in the shop. Did you by chance see it on Project Farm on YouTube? It was the top choice in his testing. It looks like it was $90 when Todd tested it, so there must have been a sale when I got mine.

WOLFBOX MF100 or MF200, or MF200 with dual batteries. I have an Amazon business account, so the MF100 is $75.49 with the business discount, $95 for the MF200. The dual battery MF200 comes in at a whopping $123.49 https://www.amazon.com/WOLFBOX-MF200-2PK-Compressed-Duster-Hurricane-Force/dp/B0GH6L9CP3/