roguebooks Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Since the classified section is closed I need to know how to sell my used 2018 Oliver Legacy Elite 1 trailer. It would be helpful to also learn how to determine what the trailer is worth and what it should sell for. Does anybody have any guidance for me? The forum's classified section was something I had great respect for and have no idea why Oliver removed it. roguebooks 2020 Ram Classic 1500 Warlock 4x4 Hemi V-8 2018 Legacy Elite, Hull #309
Derek B Posted September 16 Posted September 16 There is a face book group for used Oliver’s. https://www.facebook.com/groups/OliverforSale/ This is what we used to find ours. There are currently a few Elite 1’s listed to compare pricing. 1 Derek and Deana | 2019 LE II, Hull #484 | 2023 F150 EcoBoost | SE Louisiana
roguebooks Posted September 16 Author Posted September 16 4 hours ago, Derek B said: There is a face book group for used Oliver’s. https://www.facebook.com/groups/OliverforSale/ This is what we used to find ours. There are currently a few Elite 1’s listed to compare pricing. Thank you! (Even though I hate Facebook) 2 roguebooks 2020 Ram Classic 1500 Warlock 4x4 Hemi V-8 2018 Legacy Elite, Hull #309
Moderators topgun2 Posted September 16 Moderators Posted September 16 4 hours ago, roguebooks said: The forum's classified section was something I had great respect for and have no idea why Oliver removed it. Unfortunately, but, understandably, the classified section was removed when Oliver started having "dealerships". Simply put - the dealers didn't want Oliver to be in "competition" with them for selling any Oliver trailers. And, Oliver didn't want its dealers to think that the factory was trying anything "fishy". However, it sure would be nice to have the classifieds back on the Forum for all other things related to camping and even "used" Oliver accessories. If the members of this Forum would send an email to either (or both) Rodney Lomax and/or Scott Oliver, there is a chance that we could get it back (of course with the exception of selling used Olivers). Bill 5 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC
Boilermaker Chemist Posted September 16 Posted September 16 I happened to find our Ollie on CraigsList but saw several good leads on RVTrader. I had alerts set up on both sites for several months so I had a good idea of what the typical asking prices were, how quickly they sold and could also see when the prices were reduced. We sold our Minnie Winnie through RVTrader in just 2 weeks, but it's a little pricey, CraigsList is free. There are a lot of on-line scammers out there, just be careful to only deal with someone that you can actually meet in person. Good luck! 1 1 Mike & Ann 2021 Tundra DC SR5, Improved Racing MHX-514 transmission cooler 2023 LE II - Hull #1420 - "Hank the Tank", Truma A/C, Furnace and WH package, AGM/solar
katanapilot Posted September 17 Posted September 17 18 hours ago, topgun2 said: Unfortunately, but, understandably, the classified section was removed when Oliver started having "dealerships". Simply put - the dealers didn't want Oliver to be in "competition" with them for selling any Oliver trailers. And, Oliver didn't want its dealers to think that the factory was trying anything "fishy". However, it sure would be nice to have the classifieds back on the Forum for all other things related to camping and even "used" Oliver accessories. If the members of this Forum would send an email to either (or both) Rodney Lomax and/or Scott Oliver, there is a chance that we could get it back (of course with the exception of selling used Olivers). Bill While I understand the stated reason behind deleting the classified section, I'm not sure that was entirely valid. Given that the market for used Olivers is pretty solid and most sellers want to maximize their return - who is going to trade their Oliver to a dealer for them to resell? In some ways it's like trading your car to a dealer (a really bad financial deal in most cases) versus selling privately through a site like Auto Trader. I know that selling a car can be pretty sketchy sometimes though, but I think most people buying used Olivers are above board and those transactions occur without too many issues. 1 4 2020 Elite II Hull #628, Houghton Heat Pump, Victron MP2, SmartSolar, Orion, Cerbo, Lynx install in progress... TV - 2011 Toyota Tundra Crew Max Platinum 4WD, Magnuson Supercharger, OME suspension, Wilwood front and rear brakes
ScottyGS Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Pricing?!? I always cringe when I see used Oliver TT's priced at what IMHO.... is way too low. Wasn't long ago that you could sell an Oliver that was 4-5 years old for close to what you paid for it. I would get out my build sheet and compare what those options are going for today plus the base. Also consider what options are no longer available. Mirror cabinet doors... Lonseal Floor anyone? I would start at 5% below what I paid and make further discounts from there, if needed. You can then compare what it would cost to have a "new" Oliver vs. your used one. Plus get it now instead of waiting. There are a LOT of folks out there that would LOVE to have a six year old Oliver at the "discount" that you paid in 2018. My opinion only and I would love to hear what your experience is after it sells. Good Luck. Scotty 1 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted September 17 Moderators Posted September 17 Pricing used older Oliver’s should be pretty straight forward. When we ordered ours in 2015 the base price was $46K-ish. With options (not as many available as today) ours was just over $50K. That’s where I would start if/when I decide to sell. I would add some for the lithium upgrade and a few other mods that have been done. Factor in the age of tires and general condition of the trailer and you might add or subtract some. For example, ours has a new inverter, new shocks, springs, bearings brakes and tires, and a fairly recent ceramic coating. Those are all adds. In other words, I’d want what I’ve put into it and it would still be a bargain for someone interested in a used trailer. Mike On 9/16/2024 at 9:12 AM, roguebooks said: Since the classified section is closed I need to know how to sell my used 2018 Oliver Legacy Elite 1 trailer. It would be helpful to also learn how to determine what the trailer is worth and what it should sell for. 1 4 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L
Patriot Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) Love it or hate it, I have seen a number of Olivers sold on FB -https://www.facebook.com/groups/OliverforSale Used Oliver’s for sale here will also give you a general idea of what price range you should consider listing your Oliver as equipped. The other positive comment I will add is that I have seen a lot of Oliver owners get answers to questions with in short order on the Oliver FB page fairly quickly I might add. A huge thanks to @John Dorrer, Ruth Meilstrup and the Admin team and FB members, who all try and do a really fantastic job of going above and beyond helping out folks who are seeking knowledge or need immediate help with an issue be it large or small. Seems to me that is really what it’s all about just in a kind and decent way helping each other. The other real gain is the connections and friendships made with other Oliver owners. Win win here! 👍🏻🇺🇸😊 Cheers and Happy Travels! Patriot🇺🇸🇺🇸 Edited September 17 by Patriot 1 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina 🇺🇸
CRM Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, ScottyGS said: Pricing?!? I always cringe when I see used Oliver TT's priced at what IMHO.... is way too low. Wasn't long ago that you could sell an Oliver that was 4-5 years old for close to what you paid for it. I think there are a few reasons for that, including the market being depressed in general, the number of Ollie's built and available for sale continues to increase, and you can now purchase from dealers without any wait time and also finance at the same time. I'm sure in the past many paid a premium for used instead of waiting for a custom build. Edited September 17 by CRM Hit send too early by accident... 1 2010 Elite II, Hull #45. 2014 Toyota Sequoia Platinum 4WD 5.7 with tow package.
Boilermaker Chemist Posted September 17 Posted September 17 This won't be helpful for anyone with an OE I but on used pricing for the OE II, here is a plot of asking prices since early 2023, mostly from RV Trader. I stopped updating this about 2 months ago after we bought ours. FWIW. 3 4 Mike & Ann 2021 Tundra DC SR5, Improved Racing MHX-514 transmission cooler 2023 LE II - Hull #1420 - "Hank the Tank", Truma A/C, Furnace and WH package, AGM/solar
Patriot Posted September 18 Posted September 18 (edited) We really like our 2020 OLEll and continue to really enjoy it. And we truly believe it’s the best TT made, and it has served us very well. However at the price today for a 24/25 model we would not likely be a player at today’s retail prices. This where I think the preowned market is good. The higher the price for a new Oliver, hopefully will help hold steady the prices in the preowned market. I am really glad we purchased when we did and still feel like when the time comes we will do just fine with resale. A well kept, throughly documented and well maintained Oliver will still likely bring a decent price. Good luck @roguebooks selling your E1, I hope it moves quickly for you. Edited September 18 by Patriot 1 3 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina 🇺🇸
ScottyGS Posted September 18 Posted September 18 13 hours ago, Boilermaker Chemist said: This won't be helpful for anyone with an OE I but on used pricing for the OE II, here is a plot of asking prices since early 2023, mostly from RV Trader. I stopped updating this about 2 months ago after we bought ours. FWIW. Thanks for sharing this info. Very interesting. I recently saw a video from some financial guy who said... If you're going to buy a boat or RV, just think of it as putting the money in a big pile and setting it on fire. And for many RV's I would agree. Nice to see that Oliver owners are not in that category. That being said.... As far as Donna is concerned, we will be making our LE2 (hull #145) a true Legacy and leave it to our son after we are gone. When you add up purchase price, maintenance, upgrades, etc. there is a whole bunch of money we won't be getting back, BUT... Just owning our trailer is a joy. And, now that we are both retired and have a new TV, we'll be looking forward to more trips. Happy Camping Everyone! Scotty 1 Gregg & Donna Scott and Missy the Westie - The Flying Sea Turtle - 2016 Hull # 145 2024 Nissan Titan XD - Western NC
Ronbrink Posted September 18 Posted September 18 @Patriot I can’t help but think that these MSRP markdowns to a lower NO HAGGLE PRICE as anything more than a marketing gimmick! 3 2020 OLEll, Twin, 579: No installed solar, Renogy 40A DC-DC charger, 460Ah LFP battery bank/Victron SmartShunt, Hughes Autoformer, dual Lagun tables, auxiliary Cerbo-S GX/Victron 30A Blue Smart IP22 Charger combo, Dreiha Atmos 4.4 a/c upgrade. 2019 GMC Savana 2500 Cargo Van: 6.0L V8 Vortec, 6-Speed Automatic; Explorer Limited SE, Low-Top 7 Passenger van conversion, RWD.
Patriot Posted September 18 Posted September 18 35 minutes ago, Ronbrink said: @Patriot I can’t help but think that these MSRP markdowns to a lower NO HAGGLE PRICE as anything more than a marketing gimmick! I am glad I don’t have to think about it. 👍🏻😊 2 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina 🇺🇸
roguebooks Posted September 19 Author Posted September 19 Thanks everybody. We've washed and waxed and cleaned the interior and put our Ollie to bed for the winter. Thirteen weeks on the road over this hot and long summer just about did us in. Seven years of camping so far. Likely take shorter trips from here on out if we recover. Not sure what we'll do but just curious as to how to proceed now that our "classifieds" are kaput. Appreciate the help! roguebooks 2020 Ram Classic 1500 Warlock 4x4 Hemi V-8 2018 Legacy Elite, Hull #309
jd1923 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 7 hours ago, roguebooks said: We've washed and waxed and cleaned the interior and put our Ollie to bed for the winter. And the travel season is just starting for us down here! 1 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted September 19 Moderators Posted September 19 4 hours ago, jd1923 said: And the travel season is just starting for us down here! Travel season includes all 12 months around these parts! 2 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L
Boilermaker Chemist Posted September 20 Posted September 20 @roguebooks You might find this article has some good ideas for you: https://www.rvtravel.com/wheretosellrv-2475/? I find that the RVTravel newsletter has a lot of excellent information and I have learned a great deal from it. Mike & Ann 2021 Tundra DC SR5, Improved Racing MHX-514 transmission cooler 2023 LE II - Hull #1420 - "Hank the Tank", Truma A/C, Furnace and WH package, AGM/solar
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