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GJ, Per Josh White at Oliver Sales the induction cook top is standard and LP is no longer available on 26 YM Olivers. AI says - An induction cooktop does not use a lot of electricity compared to gas or traditional electric models; in fact, induction cooktops are the most energy-efficient type of cooktop, using 5-10% less energy than standard electric models and up to three times less than gas, according to ENERGY STAR. This superior efficiency is due to the way induction works: it heats the pan directly using electromagnetism, requiring less time and energy to cook food compared to other methods that lose significant heat to the surrounding air. Why Induction is More Efficient Direct Heating: Induction uses an electromagnetic field to heat the pan directly, rather than heating an element and then transferring that heat to the pan. Faster Cooking: The direct heating process is faster, meaning the cooktop is in operation for less time, which reduces overall electricity consumption. Less Waste: Because heat is generated in the cookware itself, less heat is lost to the surrounding air compared to gas or electric coil stoves. How to Calculate Usage To estimate your electricity usage, multiply your cooktop's wattage by the number of hours it's in operation. For example, a 2,000-watt (2kW) cooktop used for one hour consumes 2 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity. Factors Affecting Electricity Use Power Level: Higher power levels will consume more electricity. 🤔 Cookware: The cookware must be compatible with induction to be efficient. Cooking Time: Shorter cooking times naturally lead to less overall energy consumption. All this said, I still like our LP.🔥

This forum was started in 2008 and belongs to the Oliver Travel Trailer owners. Oliver Technologies Inc. provides the web platform for us but it’s not run by them. This forum is run by owner members that are volunteers. Some of the management at Oliver are members here but none post regularly. I personally have no idea how often, if ever, they actually sit down and study it. Decisions on model year changes are made in-house and not based on any official polls that I have ever seen. I’m sure that owners opinions and preferences play a part in the process but many times it boils down to product availability. For example, model year 2026’s window change was due to the old sliding windows falling out of style nationally and having been discontinued by most manufacturers. The same was true with the shift from LP/electric to all electric refrigerators. You can rest assured that Oliver will always strive to provide the best trailer on the market.

As we make our way north, we booked a few nights on the fly here at Promise Land SP near Greentown, Pa. A really quiet and well kept park. Nice clean bathhouses too! Our low tonight it will be 60 and breezy. Perfect with windows open wide for great sleeping weather! $27 a night electric only. The Pennsylvania Pocono Mountains have a special beauty about them. This pic was just a quick ✅ of our courtesy lights before dark last night. Love the Oliver exterior lighting when its needed. Spicy Kickin Chickin on the grill!! 🤪

Just departed Bryce Canyon NP arrived Zion after a beautiful drive…. Safe travels and Cheers to all y’all road warriors! Best,, A & D (Magnus & Oscar, too — woof!)

While I did not have this specific discussion with the folks at Oliver - I doubt that Oliver is completely eliminating ALL propane from the 2026 models. I suspect that there will still be propane for use with things like the water heater, furnace, outdoor grills and firepits. Bill

I hope that the induction stove is an option not a required. If not an option, and elimination of gas, then the lithiium package would need to carry a lot of load for heat, convection oven and induction oven. Not realistic from a solar regen perspective. Generator would be needed. Maybe one larger than a Honda 2200i. GJ

Bill, We dropped our trailer off at Alcan Springs at 0730 and went to breakfast. Approx 2.5 hrs later we got a call from Lew at Alcan that our Oliver was Alcan’d!! 😄 Well worth the trip to Grand Junction and put that new Beautiful Super Duty in the wind! 🇺🇸

Agree, we like our LP, too!

A bit of an update on getting "older hull number plaques - We have investigated (with great help from Matt Duncan) using either one of the two sources that Oliver has used in the past for these plaques. Unfortunately, neither one of these companies is interested in producing limited numbers (i.e. one or two at a time) even if the small orders are combined with a larger order from Oliver. The good news is that apparently there are at least a couple of individuals that can produce these plaques at prices (including shipping) under $50.00 each. Matt is currently in the process of finding the original "artwork" that is in digital form and getting in house approvals for the use of this artwork so that it can be used by owners wishing to obtain these plaques for their Oliver. Hopefully we will have complete details within the next several weeks. Bill

The rails along the wire rack outer edges are a nice feature to help keep things in place, ‘shift happens’! After our last broken egg incident when opening the door I added a rail to the top rack, problem solved. Easy install and can be lifted from either side to swing away for access, as necessary.

Greetings to the Oliver I saw parked at the Ridley’s parking lot in Pinedale! I think you are from Louisiana — but there’s no mistaking your Oliver! “Our Escape Pod”!

Agree, if we install Alcans, this will be a good reason to head west to Colorado! 🙃

Jd, Nice work on your new running gear. If I am looking at this correctly, I see you installed your wet bolt zerks facing out or towards the inside of your wheel/tire. This makes it a more difficult to get the grease gun in that much tighter space. While having my leaf packs installed, I had the techs at Alcan reverse my zerks for much easier access when greasing them — now facing the opposite direction. Hopefully you are not too far along and can reverse your wet bolt zerks to face the inside for easier access. I promise it will make it super easy greasing those zerks later on. 😊 Patriot 🇺🇸

Yet another Ollie "in the wild" - This time it is at the Box Creek Trailhead due west of Moran Junction, WY. Bill

Considering the mixed reviews on the changes for 2026, I wonder if Oliver does any consumer research before deciding what to change. For example, has this forum ever been used by Oliver for customer feedback by way of polling the changes they are considering ?

For sure, we're all different! 🤣 At home 6 years ago, I removed our electric induction cooktop (it was an older cooktop, perhaps not the latest technology), ran natural gas pipe to a new cooktop. Then I used the 8 AWG wire that was for the cooktop and added a sub-panel so that our fridge and Emeril Oven would have their own 20A circuits! It's been a great kitchen mod and we would never go back. So, quite the opposite from Rob's comment. We like the simplicity of gas, what you see is the heat applied. And when camping, we must have LP for outdoor cooking, and our fire ring for sure. The LP Atwood furnace is another must have, don't want heat pump running above our heads! We're going to keep those two 30# LP tanks in addition to more/better batteries! We prefer the stainless sinks too, but can see how this would make installation easier and costs lower for OTT. This thread seems like fantasy-land to me. Out of all of us reading and writing, who is in the market for a new Oliver anyway? Not us! There is only room in life for one Oliver, for sure. I'm truly glad we prefer what we already have with mods already made. It's like when OTT went to touch lights, nothing but problems. Our old switched lights, working now 10 years, and would not change a thing. Don't want those new windows either! 🤣

Love the idea of induction cooktop for a litany of different reasons. As mentioned they are way more energy efficient. A few years ago we incorporated an induction range into our house after having a gas version for decades. Neither of us would ever go back to gas much preferring induction. The amount of control one has over the heating range is on orders of magnitude better and far more precise. It's nearly impossible to turn a gas cooktop down enough for slow simmers or any type of slow cooking too even with the use of diffusers, with induction it is a piece of cake to do this. As someone else mentioned it also provides addition work space when not using the burners, if you could actually call them that. There is no pollutants within the trailer either or our house for that matter, no issues with ignition at cold temps and high altitudes something we constantly encounter. Cutting to the chase I applaud Oliver for providing this feature! The only downside I can think of is the need for "possibly" more Li-ON battery and a large at least 2000 watt inverter, both which adds to the cost of admission for induction, but offset somewhat by fewer propane bottle refills. We look at gas cooktops propane or natural gas is a severely outdated technology, belonging in the 20th century dust bin.

We’ve traveled from San Antonio up through NM, CO, UT, NV, CA, OR, and WA. We’re currently at Whidbey Island north of Seattle and we haven’t seen a single other Oliver in over a month! Where is everybody?!? Mike

A fellow Forum member and renowned fly fisherperson - Boudicca. Bill

With everything able to run on electric now, who's going to be the first one to remove the propane tanks and pack the doghouse with lithium batteries? 😄

Looks like you'll have to pull the bottom two bins out for that. Would have been nice if they had designed it to where there was a center support between each so you could pull one out and leave the other.

I thought about the mod many of you have gone with and decided to go with the standard configuration. The end bolts are easier forward facing and the shackle bolts are easy enough with an elbow fitting and power grease gun. Takes a bit of extra reach or climbing under when the Zerks are facing inwards. Half the time when lubing, I’ll likely have the wheels off anyway to check brakes, adjust the “self-adjusters”, check the tires thoroughly, pressure wash the backsides, and remove all the annoying gravel (when doing so, I’ve found countless nails and other metal objects in tire treads. BTW, pulling and replacing wet bolts is NOT easy, as the bolt alignment is not always there. 🤣

Alcan has a competitive labor charge. It's worth it letting them install the springs when in the area! Already have all the break-in miles needed on the Superduty for towing. Towed Ollie earlier this week with the Superduty, it handles Ollie easily. Have some family commitments this year, not sure if we will make it to CO, but plan to head west next year. Have most of the farkles (accessories) installed, finishing touches this weekend.

Yes, good eyes! It’s a 1Up USA Super Duty tandem rack. Pic is last fall out at Devils Tower. This rack allows for full rear light and brake light visibility even when the bikes are covered.

The best induction cookware we’ve owned is a nesting Magma set! MAGMA Products, A10-362-IND 7 Piece Induction Cook-Top Gourmet Nesting Stainless Steel Cookware Set: https://amzn.to/3vmDVEo

We’re near Orofino, ID at The Pink House BLM campground. Leaving tomorrow (Sat.) away from the smoke that has been in this area for 2 days now. Great campground with full hookups for $18 ($9 for those with the senior pass). The Clearwater River is at the backside of the campground.

Regarding the induction cooktop, we installed a 36 inch five element cooktop in our house when we remodeled the kitchen a couple years ago. Holy cow that thing is absolutely awesome, even fun to use. Bonus was our wedding gift cookware set from 32 years earlier were already induction compatible. And as others have mentioned, since the ceramic top only sits about an eighth inch above the counter top, it’s just additional counter space. And talk about safe to use, spilled grease will never ignite on the cook surface and you can lay a sheet of paper against the base of a boiling pot of water with no chance of it igniting. And again as mentioned earlier no gas hazard or combustion fumes. Regarding the induction cooktop now offered in the Oliver, just the fact you will no longer need to open a window and turn on the vent fan to run the stove is enough for me to want one. Perhaps necessary if you are deep frying but otherwise no risk or need at all. With that said, I would never remove the remainder of our propane system because I like redundancy, and prefer gas heating hands down.

Bill, our halogen cooktop in the house finally went kaputt a couple years ago and we put in a five burner induction cooktop which works great. We did have to get new pans as we had copper clad Revereware from when we got married in 1976. The old pans went into the trailer. I do love the induction cooktop! It's incredibly fast and can be adjusted down or up instantly. John

AND - somehow that Oliver meets up with another Oliver just outside the town of Meeteetse, Wyoming!

We did the same. Grand Junction has a few nice restaurants. John

Hmmm, no place for tall items such as orange juice or 1/2 gallon of milk. I’d miss that. The freezer is at least double the size of ours, though.

Both galley and wet bath sinks are now preformed “fiber granite” made in house.

Rear awning style egress/exit window. A shot of the gray and black tanks electric blade valve switches.

The wet bath still has the frosted glass on the interior and black framed tilt out awning style tinted exterior window. Turn the little T handle to open and close. This is the same T handle for all awning windows. . Ext shot -

The new Dometic 12v frig. It has an ok size freezer but overall still a smaller interior than our 3 way Norcold.

The new induction cook top cools off quickly when turned off. This is because the heat is generated directly in the pan and not in the cook top itself. So as soon as the current is turned off the induction cook top will cool off immediately likely allowing for more prep space. I am pretty sure the former LP cook top will is no longer available when ordering a new Oliver. It is likely a whole lot cheaper in the assembly line to simply wire the induction CT and no issue with LP leaks. 🤔 That said, we sure like cooking with our LP! 🔥😊

Back (in the day) all propane cooktops were oriented with the "back-splash" opening towards the curb-side of the Ollie. However, (as Mossemi states above in about 2017) because we owner's kept asking for the cooktop to be oriented with the back-splash oriented towards the rear of the trailer, the company listened and made the rear facing back-splash the "norm". Some of us said that this not only allowed the back-splash to help deter "splashes" from reaching the bed area but it also increased counter space. In reality, since the area that the cooktop covered didn't actually change, there wasn't any real additional counter space achieved and there was some concern that if a person reached across the cooktop with the front burner lit, there could be a risk of catching a sleeve on fire. With the new convection cooktop there is much less risk of a sleeve catching on fire. However, there will be the need to have pots and pans that are compatible with convection cooking. Bill

Another difference I see between my 2022 and this 2026 is the orientation of the propane cooktop — mine is rotated 90 degrees and off to the far right side, giving me a decent work surface between the sink and the cooktop. I think I would be miserable with the limited working surface. Maybe that change happened in a previous model?

I generally prefer working on my own vehicles (and home) vs. contracting trades. However, the reasonable amount Alcan charges for labor is well worth it! This is not as easy as it looks! 🤣 Both axles are in today. Torque the wet bolts and brake wiring yet to do. Friday I have new E-Z Flex equalizers coming.

Ollie in the wild! While making our way up to New England to enjoy the fall weather we landed a gem of a CG staying 6 nights at Stoney Fork Federal CG in the Jefferson National Forest. This is CG located near Wytheville, Va. We paid $16 per night electric only with my America the beautiful pass. This is a small CG with only 50 sites most of which are E only sites. We spent time in the Walker Valley and the Big Walker Mountain Lookout Tower. Our lowest temp at night was 46. Incredible sleeping weather and we never used our AC during our entire stay. There is something very special about the beauty Appalachian Mountains. While on a nice hike we found an old foundation with this write up on it. Quite a bit of history on this piece of land. We both enjoy excellent lunches prepared by the Amish women at the Walker Valley Market in Pearisburg, Va and then Burkes Garden, in Tazwell County. Ollie in the wild.. My bride enjoying a nice warm fire. Venison sausage….🤪 from woods to table. 🏹 200 steps to the top of this tower and yes was windy at the top. The beauty to behold at the top.. We won this sign at the 2024 Oliver Rally. Coy Gayle hand crafted it for us. It now travels with us everywhere we go. Thank you Coy for such a fine sign! 🇺🇸 Finally video from the top of the tower. My bride enjoying incredible views of her home state. IMG_3810.mov This is the historical write up we found at the old foundation we discovered on our hike. Rufus was quite the Bear hunter would be an understatement.

Exactly what I did when we went with lithiums.

See section 7 of the article on the upgrade ...in our 2019 EII manual it shows it as a Black Charge wire as shown in the wiring diagram and in the PICTURE below. The reason we disconnected the wire inside the 7 pin cable was to protect the alternator. Lithium Batteries they can "draw" charge current much faster than older AGM or other Lead Acid Batteries...so ultimately they would try to draw way more power than the truck wiring would provide. (To install the DC/DC converter you'll run dedicated lines back to the DC/DC charger.) Full battery upgrade is here...including the section 7 about disabling the charge wire. https://4-ever-hitched.com/blog-articles/f/lithium-battery-upgrade Step 7; Disable the 7 Pin Charge Line: We will be installing a new DC/DC charger into our Oliver EII. But before we do that install we need to disable the current charging wire that runs from the 7 pin cable on the tongue of the Oliver. That 7 pin connector is the one that plugs into the back of the truck for lights, brake lights, emergency brake power. Inside the 7 pin cable there is a BLACK wire that provides 12V (B+ ) from the truck battery/alternator B+ all the way back through the trailer, through a 20A breaker and back to the batteries via the 12V Bus bar in the trailer. We will not be using that (Black) charge line for the trailer an longer. We disabled that line on the 7 pin connector by putting heat shrink coating over the screw terminal on the black B+ wire conductor and also taping up the screw lead the body. We reassembled the conductor and tested that no 12V was present on the wires inside the trailer. Wiring Digram for Oliver EII 7 Pin To disable the Charge Wire (BLACK) from the 7 pin, remove the cover and disconnect the wire from the connector by taping up the wire and putting it back inside the cover. Don't cut the wire in case you need to use it in the future.

Hardly, let’s just call it ‘resourceful’! That said, I don’t understand the lack of interest or inquisitiveness, other than a couple of folk, in the Cielo. Many have expressed frustration regarding humidity issues with their units, and asked in this forum for the reason and/or a solution. The Cielo has its idiosyncrasies, but perhaps the Wi-Fi dependency is a deterrent or simply the thought of adding another device. Time will tell!

Looks great, but much more expensive to replace than the stainless version in the event of damage. The stainless galley sink in our Hull #1291 (2022) is pitted, so replacing it is on my "to do" list, after our fall extended trip.