John E Davies Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 This is impressive……. https://pressroom.toyota.com/standing-tall-all-new-2023-sequoia-full-size-suv-is-ready-to-make-its-mark/, There are still a few things I don't care for, and they haven’t published the payload specs, but if my LC 200 died, I would look very hard at a Sequoia TRD Pro. Remove the heavy third row seats and put drawers underneath the adjustable platform: Add the taller springs from a Tundra TRD Pro. Go have fun….. It should be a great match for the big Ollie. John Davies Spokane WA 4 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Oh my. You just turned my head 720 degrees! Have you seen any tech spec's out on it? Glad they went back to the Tundra frame and power train like the 2005 generator was. BTW, after about 260,000 miles, 12 years of crawling up mountains heavily loaded with hang gliders and crew, and then both of my sons for another couples of years each, we sold the family 2005 Sequoia. Driven hard, fast and long, but maintained it was hyper reliable, and my most favorite tow and heavy off road vehicle for hauling. Drats... you got me thinking again! 3 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 And they took more than a few ques from the Land Cruiser as well! TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Video: 2023 Toyota Sequoia Overview | Toyota John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 I was confused in a big way about the rear suspension in the Tundra and the Sequoia. For some reason I thought it was IRS, like the previous model Sequoia. It is NOT, it is a multi-link solid rear axle. Is the ALL NEW 2023 Toyota Sequoia A Worthy Land Cruiser Replacement? It is the same setup as the Tundra, which looks like this. I am really glad about that, but I am not sure why I thought it was independent in back. 😳 Senior brain fart, I guess. John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Looks like a great vehicle as most Toyota products are, I don't see my wife giving up her new Lexus, but it is also a Toyota product. I personally never cared for a large SUV for towing, including Suburban, Tahoe, Excursion, Sequoia, etc., but now the new Waggoner has also interred in the picture. All probably good choices for towing the Oliver, but the Crew Cab pickup will always be my choice, just much more versatile for me. 3 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 Video test drive reviews videos have hit the Internet, big time, just pick one: Google “2023 Toyota Sequoia review video” Here is a test of the TRD Pro that includes some offroad stuff, fast forward to the 20:00 minute mark if you want the skip the intro. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Zomv68MFU I think it would be great for towing the LE2, I have small reservations about third “fixed” row seats, I am sure there will be a way to get them out, make a flat platform for cargo, fool the electronic warnings, and maybe lose 100 pounds of dead weight. The last year model of the Land Cruiser 200 offered a special edition with no third row, no side steps and AT tires, maybe that is in the future for the Sequoia. I also don’t like the part time 4wd, but I know why they did it, better fuel economy. And the interior design would take some getting used to. And the placement of those twin turbos, so far down and buried under other parts. 😳😳😳😳😳 John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 Looks like they are just starting to appear, this is the first one I have seen listed in the whole country on a dealer website, in Portland OR for a 20% dealer markup😳 https://www.toyotaofportland.com/auto/new-2023-toyota-sequoia-hybrid-portland-or/68919002/ John Davies Spokane WA 2 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewdev Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 This mark-up is terrible! 1 1 2018 Oliver Elite II, Twin Bed, Hull #354 2024 RAM 1500, 4 x 4; Gas. 5.7L V8 Hemi MDS VVT Torque; 3.21 rear axle ratio Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Morris Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, dewdev said: This mark-up is terrible! Yep, but pretty common with Toyotas these days. I got my 2021 Land Cruiser $9000 under sticker. Three months later, they were selling ( not asking) for $30,000 over sticker, until every last one in the US was gone. Crazy time! Which is why used cars are going for more than they cost when new. 1 1 1 ----- Steve - Northern Ohio, USA Wandering around on occasion, always lost. 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser - 2023 Oliver Elite II Twin Hull #1360 “Curiosity” Facebook - Instagram Camped in Curiosity = Green —— Visited with Curiosity = Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRM Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Steve and Deb said: Yep, but pretty common with Toyotas these days. I got my 2021 Land Cruiser $9000 under sticker. Three months later, they were selling ( not asking) for $30,000 over sticker, until every last one in the US was gone. Crazy time! Which is why used cars are going for more than they cost when new. Looking at used Land Cruiser's right now and most of them that I'm interested in are selling over original sticker. 1 2010 Elite II, Hull #45. 2014 Toyota Sequoia Platinum 4WD 5.7 with tow package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted September 3, 2022 Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 Keep in mind that new Land Cruisers are no more in the USA, at least for several years. That isn’t really the same as a brand new model Sequoia and unethical dealer price gouging. If you wait a year for a nice low miles used LC200 it will probably be even more costly. The Sequoia will eventually be “affordable”. I use that term loosely. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/why-toyota-land-cruiser-discontinued/ I bought mine used in 2018 with 90k miles for $42,000 (about half the MSRP). I do not plan to get rid of it unless it burns up, is totalled or is stolen. It no longer looks brand new, but it drives like one, with no squeaks or rattles, even with almost 160,000 miles. John Davies Spokane WA 4 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Good Luck with finding a new Sequoia and getting one for a reasonable price. With Toyota's production figures going to be way down and dealer shortages predicted for the next two years, it looks like this vehicle is going to be for those who just want one at any price. I like many can afford what I want, but I look at vehicles in todays market purchasing one at a high cost vs. commonsense, something I always keep in the back of my mind. I do admit the new 2023 model does have a much better look over the older models which I thought were pretty ugly and had really no styling. I see no reason not to go for it if that's your vehicle that will work for you. trainman 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 This is a little disheartening. The third row seats are slid forward and folded, you can see the odd raised ledge underneath where the hybrid battery is located. https://www.autoblog.com/2022/09/12/toyota-sequoia-luggage-test/ Those seats are not removable because Toyota wants them there to “protect the battery”. I am sure the industrious aftermarket will soon have a stout, completely flat cargo platform to install there, in place of those bulky and heavy seats, that will have tie-down rails and will provide enough protection for the electrical stuff underneath. It sure would be nice if Toyota would offer these trucks without that nasty third row. They did that for the last year Land Cruiser 200 Heritage Edition. I’m still hoping to see one of these in the flesh before too long. John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 No thanks…. John Davies Spokane WA 1 2 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhncb Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, John E Davies said: No thanks…. John Davies Spokane WA Is their KBB dealer rating 4.4 out of 10? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, bhncb said: Is their KBB dealer rating 4.4 out of 10? https://www.dealerrater.com/ncdn/u/NotSet/Documents/DealerRater-KBB-Integration.pdf John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Mawyer Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Anyone in the forum with an Elite II pulled the trigger on one of these? The non-disposable third row seats is a buzz kill for sure. 1 2020 Legacy Elite II : Hull 625 - 2013 Lexus LX 570 San Antonio/Boerne - Texas Hill Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrault Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 1/26/2022 at 11:49 AM, John E Davies said: This is impressive……. https://pressroom.toyota.com/standing-tall-all-new-2023-sequoia-full-size-suv-is-ready-to-make-its-mark/, There are still a few things I don't care for, and they haven’t published the payload specs, but if my LC 200 died, I would look very hard at a Sequoia TRD Pro. Remove the heavy third row seats and put drawers underneath the adjustable platform: Add the taller springs from a Tundra TRD Pro. Go have fun….. It should be a great match for the big Ollie. John Davies Spokane WA I am considering a Sequoia, the problem is trying to get one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideandfly Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 This dealer in Winston Salem NC has seven 2023 Sequoia in transit. We're happy with the 22 Tundra 3.5 twin turbo engine, same engine in the new Sequoia. We like pickup trucks, but if we were looking for an SUV, the Sequoia would be on the short list. https://www.moderntoyota.com/sequoia/ 2015 LE2 #75 / 2024 F-150/5.0L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I'll keep my F-150 for sure. Drats I'm a Sequoia fan but their marketing team missed the mark for some of us. For example: Don't want the third row. Don't want just a 1360# payload so ditch the hybrid system and increase the payload! Must have the Center Transfer Case with ability to select 2H, 4H, 4A, and 4L capability. Factory ability to TPMS four of Ollie's tires. Camera system that allows an Ollie rear camera to be added in at a reasonable cost. No dealer markup. At $65K+, surely they can provide a more capable machine for our boondockers. I figure in about 3 or 4 years, Toyota will have gotten the message. GJ 2 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 I looked over my first one today at a dealer, a TRD Pro. I did not see a sticker since it had been sold, but it was listed at $80k. I think it looks great from the back, OK from the sides and front. There are two butt ugly FAKE air vents on top of the hood, maybe they could be removed without requiring a repaint, hopefully they are just 3M taped on. A sales guy opened the hatch for me and said how very disappointed all his sales buddies are with the miniscule cargo capacity of an 8 passenger vehicle. If I had one, all center and rear seats would have to come OUT and a storage platform system installed. I am sure the aftermarket is all over this problem. I also think the turbos will be a long term maintenance headache, if they cannot be dropped straight down from the headers. Some pics: I wondered about the 33” spare tire underneath, it sticks way down, almost as far as the straight axle pumpkin, and will drag unless an owner adds some spring lift. The very pretty twin exhaust tips will be easily crushed too. No tow hooks up front or a place to install them. The breakover angle is horrible, but removing those boards would help some.. This isn ‘t a Land Cruiser 300, no way. Maybe we will see those in a couple of years. I can buy a lot of fuel for my LC 200 for $90k…. My daughter bought a RAV4 Hybrid XLE there today, the dealer is family owned, does NOT mark up prices or force unwanted dealer add ons. Woohoo, one very happy young lady… her first new car. We took up a better set of tires, Yoko Geolander A/Ts to replace the crap OEM “high mileage” ones. We still got 40 mpg on the 90 mile drive home. John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2019 F-150 3.5 EB, Super Crew FX4 Lariat: $52K 2023 Toyota Sequoia $80K. There just is not $28K in value added and inflation. Sad commentary from a life long Toyota guy. GJ TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted March 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Geronimo John said: 2019 F-150 3.5 EB, Super Crew FX4 Lariat: $52K 2023 Toyota Sequoia $80K. 2023 F-150 3.5 EB, Super Crew FX4 Lariet! I think Ford has closed the gap. Mossey 2 Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 16 hours ago, mossemi said: 2023 F-150 3.5 EB, Super Crew FX4 Lariet! I think Ford has closed the gap. Did you include the ROF (Retired Ole Fart) tail gate step, mud flaps, FX4 and HD Trailer package? They likely would bring it closer to the $80K number. 🙂 Just having fun. GJ 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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