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Please take a moment of silence for those Americans we lost and those that still suffer from this horrific attack on our beautiful country. Thank you for all those who serve and have served in protecting our great nation. Our flag flies at half on this day every year. May God continue to Bless the United States of America. Be Safe Oliver Family. -Patriot

On my recent fly fishing trip to Wyoming I stumbled upon a Forest Service "de-commissioned" campground. My destination was fishing the Buffalo Fork River and I knew that there was a large Forest Service campground (Turpin Meadows) at the end of the paved Buffalo Valley Road. I also knew that there are numerous boondocking sites on this road. However, when I arrived I found the Turpin Meadows campground FULL and even the availability of many of the boondocking sites were hard to come by. So, as I headed west back toward Moran Junction I saw a small sign 9/10th of a mile west of Turpin Meadows for Box Creek Trail Head. The 3/4 mile dirt road ends at the trail head where there are 8 campsites. The Forest Service took away the picnic tables but left the bear boxes. While the pit toilet is not "serviced" by the Forest Service (this means that it is not cleaned nor do they provide TP) the campers using this facility do sweep it out and the result is that it is in better shape than the average. There is water but it is marked that it is not potable, however, both potable water and trash disposal can be done at Turpin Meadows. During the week I camped here it was never full and most nights there were only three of us staying there. It is super quiet but certainly be "bear aware". So, if you are in the Grand Teton area and want to get away from the crowds but still want great hiking and/or good fishing without a long drive on a dirt road, you might want to consider Box Creek. There are stunning views of the Tetons from many of the hiking trails, from the river and from the drive west on Buffalo Valley Road. GPS: N 43 degrees 51minutes 42.5 seconds, W 110 degrees 17 minutes 39.0 seconds Bill

In addition - today IS "Patriot" day. Lets all remember.

This was a template error, the new update was not compatible with the Oliver template so I had to remake it with the updated version. All appears to be in order now. The APP is created and mainted by the forum software developers. I have not tried it yet on my iOS device but it does look promising. It is strictly for this forums and will not include anything else. It is a 3rd party and not from Oliver. Give it a try, looks good!

JD - Two months in mostly the same terrain and not one tick. No moose either but there were cattle, deer, bear and a few horses. Box Creek campground does have small corals for horses and while I was there a very nice guy and his two horses were camped at the other end of the campground from me. He asked if I minded him letting his horses graze and since I do like horses I didn't have any problems with it. Interestingly while I was fishing the Buffalo Fork River one day I was walking across a fairly large sandy area that had a bunch of animal tracks in it. One of those tracks was from a medium sized grizz and was fairly fresh. The disturbing thing was that there was only one track - front right paw. I never could figure out how in the world that bear got just one print in the sand since it was not near the water and too far to jump from the clump of willows. Strange! Bill

I know you know mitigation measures, John, but I'll put it out here for new campers in our group, who may be more accustomed to urban environments. Decades ago, ticks were pretty much just an annoyance. Now, with diseases carried, we're all more careful. What I do: Long pants. Tucked into hiking socks. Spray clothing (not my skin) with deet, if it's season. Long sleeves. Tuck in your shirt. Stay out of long grass, and shrub when possible. Light colored clothing makes it easier to see the critters. A forester years ago told me khaki color is best. Shower daily. Ticks usually wander awhile before they find a sweet spot. A scrubbing shower will usually dislodge unattached wanderers. Check dogs frequently. Comb them. Medicate ahead if time. They're susceptible to Lyme disease, too. Though not likely, ticks can wander from them, to you. If you do find a tick, remove it carefully, properly, and promptly. You can keep it in a jar or zip lock for analysis later. In my years if camping and hiking, I've had some ticks attach, even being careful. Three on my dogs. Even if you're careful, it can happen. Not to panic. Not every tick is a disease carrier. But, it's best to limit exposure. I probably missed some ideas. Add away. Sherry

Susan, We have a Diamondback cover on the Tundra and like using it for camping.

I agree. Everything looks great.

Don't forget space for the Camp Chef. Without an oven in the Oliver you got to plan for a way to cook biscuits, or cornbread.

Yes, we had hull # 026, one of the (very) few twin bed models in the early Elites. It was just as you described it, the second bed was where the dinette is. We ate off the folding table midships. We needed something bigger so we sold it in 2013 and bought the first Elite II, hull # 050.

Oh, I forgot the ladder. We also carry a ladder and probably something else I forgot.

We have a tonneau cover for our Tundra and our item list is almost identical to Mike and Carol's with the exception of the generator. We also keep our ladder in the truck bed.

I haven't looked for an app, But, the mobile version for phones and tablets, as I use, is far improved, at least in my opinion. Some buttons have moved a bit, but I can find them. Hope everyone else feels the same.

Here are the floor plans from the 2016 Elite Brochure.

We changed our cushions and covers. I still have the original tan cushions but went with a dark blue sunbrella material a couple of years ago.

Very nice truck...

We just ordered a Leer topper on Monday and were told that it would be 5-6 weeks for delivery. We are downsizing from a 5th wheel and definitely needed the extra secure space in the truck for other items. If only our Ollie could be delivered in 5-6 weeks! Anticipation is half the fun though...

Dug around tonight and found a set of 2018 printed brochures. Not in there. Must have been on line in 2017 or earlier where I saw the alternate Elite I layout. Ken

My last 2 caps were Leer. After 13 years and 150,000 miles it was evident the Cap would last as long as the truck. Highly recommend the bed rug and the Leer cap option to match.

Daniel, the first 49 trailers that Oliver built were all Elites. This was between late 2007 and early 2009. As you recall there was a downturn in the economy about that time and Oliver made the difficult decision to halt their trailer production. There was no layoff of personnel. In 2013, they decided to reopen the trailer line but their plan was to only make the Elite II's. After many requests from potential customers, in 2015 they reintroduced the Elite. The general layout and floor plan is essentially the same. In the early Elites, if there was ever a problem with the refrigerator, the entire front wall had to be removed in order to get the old one out and the new one in. I'm not sure if that ever had to be done, but it would have been a lot of trouble. That problem was fixed in the later models. The early Elites had the furnace mounted in the cabinet facing along side the drawers. It is now moved to beneath the forward most dinette seat and is ducted into the cabin and bathroom. The upper cabinets in the early Elites had sliding doors while the later Elites have drop down doors like in the Elite II's. The cabinets are somewhat larger on the latest ones. Beneath the benchs and dinette seats of the older models were custom molded inserts that dropped into these areas for storage. These were eliminated in the newer models. On the current Elites, the suspension has been lowered, the air conditioner is a smaller model, there is more storage (both more drawers and the aforementioned larger upper cabinets), the bathroom window is larger, all lighting is LED and the shower drain system is greatly improved. There are probably more changes that have been made. We owned hull # 026 from 2008-2013. We bought hull # 050 (Elite II) in 2014. Others will chime in perhaps, if I have misspoken anywhere, please feel free to correct me. Happy travels...