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I moved all my stickers to the trash can, which is where they look the best. I agree with the others about the trim and window - whatever it is that Oliver is trying to do there needs to be rethought.

Great topic and ideas for improvement. Thanks for sending to Oliver, I really hope they listen, it seems you put a lot of thought into it from real-world experience. So here are my views. But I will add the following: I don't own an Oliver yet, but planning to buy one soon. Never been in one yet either. My comments below are purely from YouTube/FB etc, so don't roast me 🤣 Most I what I observed is on your very comprehensive list - just writing down the things that jumped out at me: Need bigger fresh water tank, perhaps option to ditch/convert blank tank to fresh where the composting toilet is optioned. Need a bigger refrigerator and definitely a compressor style one. Switch to a MPTT solar controller. More solar, perhaps a fold-out option (not sure of that is feasible). Door pockets like nu-camp trailers. Lot's of people complain the a/c unit is too loud - I see you have that covered above, but can it be ducted too? Automatic leveling jacks. Reverse the blackout window blind and screen; blackout should start from bottom to add some privacy, while still letting some light from the top. Sonos speaker option for audiophiles. Hinge top cabinets from top and add a gas strut. Also love the idea of a slightly larger Elite III, definitely wider, but not too much longer. Dry-bath would be great, somewhere to lounge would be nice, not just the bed option. For example, flip-up leg extenders on dinette seating. Thanks again Paul

Here's a pic right off Oliver's website of a 2022 model Elite. So I don't know what is going on with your trailer Longstride. It does look like the window in the pic was placed higher however. Note no sticker and the shade frame pretty much touches the upper cabinet. That would give just enough room for a continuous belly band. Dave

Last leg completed. We ended up staying at what was rated as a "good" RV park just off the hwy. It was 108 degrees on the TV screen. Somehow fitting - as it was perhaps the worst of the trip - time to go home. Not sure how you run a big park with one bathroom per - and then turn the water off in the morning due to a leak! JJJ was not AAA. It was a great time - traveled a few roads - new to us, visited a few places we once haunted, and and overall had a good time. The icing on the cake - we met a wonderful couple in KC who are very excited to be the next owners of #359. Ollie has been a trusted partner in our jaunts across the the country - I'm sure the new owners will enjoy him as much as we did. I have commented on our ability to stuff Ollie with the needed things. Just wait till you empty yours - things seems to have multiplied. Even found that spare kitchen sink. Jeeeze. RB, CB, and H.

Our Breville Mini Smart oven fits in the 2021 optional microwave deleted cabinet, with room to spare. Not relevant for 2022 and beyond models since Oliver has discontinued the microwave deletion option. Maybe they will bring it back if and when production returns to pre-Covid rates. Having the extra storage cupboard is nice; we use it much more than we ever use an RV microwave.

What I like about Harvest Hosts: quiet, generally flat, we usually don't unhitch, the small amount of money that you spend is often for products (farm produce, a museum tour, etc.) that have intrinsic value.

We did not spec the KTT mattresses on our order but while waiting for build we found a beautiful fully equipped LEII Hull 428. She came equipped with the KTT twin set up and I love it! I can say I do sleep better on them than anywhere and it would be hard to not replace them now if I were ordering! They are heavy so the standard set up would be challenging.

After David started this thread, started looking at all 1/2 & 3/4 ton pickup grills, some look OK but some don't look very good including most manufacturers. With all the higher HP power-plants and more stringent EPA requirements , additional areas for cooling is probably needed, too. When we replaced diesel power-plants on industrial machines with the newest EPA tier engine, we needed more space to accommodate larger radiators and coolers meeting EPA engine's emission requirements. Speaking of the newer pickups, my Wife likes smaller pickups for daily drivers. The new 2022 Ford Maverick looks interesting for a daily driver, not so much for towing.

I like the idea of the hydraulic pedestal… hadn’t thought of that.. replacing the tabletop is on our list as well, and while I could built one, I’m keeping my eyes peeled for an old wooden tabletop with interesting grain patterns or wood species that I can repurpose.. I think I want to make it a few inches longer than the stock Oliver table..

I thought yours had the manual switch? If so the power wire will be a direct run from there to the fan motor. The power to the switch will come from a fuse. It is super easy to check this stuff, if the fuse is OK you will need a cheap volt/ ohm test meter to do some simple electrical checks of the wires. The later hulls did away with the manual switch entirely. Unfortunately.... The earlier hulls had the fan sitting up high where it can be reached easily from outside, without having to remove the entire fridge. John Davies Spokane WA

Sure, the drop down is 16 1/2 by 14 1/2 by 1" It's going in the Oliver somewhere!

I could live with John Davies' idea of ripped/notched band better than the "missing chunk" you have now. Move the whole band up a tiny bit. Notch the retaining lip of the shelf a bit to clear the chrome trim. It would at least give the illusion of a full continuous band, with the shelf in place. I'd be disappointed, too, if I were you. I understand that the slider requires a bigger space for egress, but I don't think this was well thought out, personally. I'd ask Oliver for a bit of a redo, possibly as described above. We ripped the inner part of the shelf (the part that sits in the slot) and the lip, making our wooden shelf a few inches less deep. Still room for glasses, a small clock, my phone, and a paperback book. But, I've not seen the new style in person. Might be more shallow than our original, as it is. Mine is now just deep enough for a paperback. I've even given fleeting thought to removing the table clips, and filling the holes, as we haven't used the table in over 10 years. I just throw a pillow over them...

As I watch moms picking up the kiddos from school in their giant 4x4 SUVs, I wonder to myself how many of them know how to engage 4x4. Or, ever have. Not being sexist here. (After all, I'm a mom, too.) I wonder the same about some of the suits passing me in big 4x4 trucks. To each his own. I'm also glad to see some nice new smaller trucks and suvs coming to market. I hope they'll be well received. We also have two dinos in our fleet. Both well loved.

Sounds like a great project. One thing you'll need to figure out is how to attach the end of the table to the wall, but that shouldn't be too difficult.

I will keep my 2019 Tundra limited! That new front end does not do anything for me. Dodge Like frontend

Well, that certainly looks like an engineering decision to me, tho the execution could be a lot better IMHO. It is sure unsightly. If you can get Oliver to send you a length of the chrome trim, you could carefully notch out the bottom edge to clear the shelf. It would look odd when the shelf was removed, but no odder than a completely missing piece. And it would look terrific when the shelf was installed. My guess is that the missing piece is a cost saving measure. I removed my two peeling stickers and mounted a single one in their place outside the frame, the view out the back window is much improved. The stickers are a visual distraction, they force your eyes to focus on them rather than the scenery beyond. On your setup, I would install a new one to the right of the street side red handle. And the EXIT sticker at the top should go a few inches forward, on the ceiling, so you can see it when lying down. I am not sure it even meets code where it is now, half hidden by the blinds frame….. . I guess that all the sticker locations are by code, but as an owner you do not have to leave them there. John Davies Spokane WA

It simply comes down to what appeals to the majority of the market. The current design trends in the USA seem to lean toward the "bigger, badder, better" theory. It is not for me but it appeals to plenty of other folks out there. Many of them seldom even use trucks (especially off-road models) for what they were designed for. They just want a truck that looks tough, even if it is just to pick up a bag of potting soil from Lowes. That is who Toyota is trying to appeal to, and in fact it may be just what they have to do to compete. In addition to my 2020 Tundra, I also own a 2013 Nissan Xterra Pro 4X. It is my "toy" and has less than 30,000 miles on it. It is a highly capable off-roader and will go anywhere a stock Jeep Wrangler will yet it is still comfortable zipping along at highway speeds. Auto critics said the same crap about my X that they have said about my Tundra. "Outdated", "Hasn't changed in years", "Rides like a truck" (are you kidding me? it IS a truck), hard plastic on the interior (which cleans up nicely when dirty/muddy), outdated infotainment system etc. Rather than slap on fender flares, tow hooks, removable doors, and the like; they just discontinued the model. Not a big enough market. Didn't look badass enough. Didn't have what the majority of the market was looking for. Sad. Looks like I have two dinosaurs in my fleet now. I love them both.

Thanks for the photos from the classifieds. Sure looks like the belly band is cut out at the tray slot on that Elite also. I have no problem with it as long as it is a manufacturing change and not a goof! It appears as if they had to make the change to accommodate the larger egress window. Not much available room between the top of the frame and the attic (see pic below). Like you, we intend to leave the back set up as a bed. The tray is a nice place to set your glasses, flashlight, and a water bottle. A mini nightstand if you will. Perfect for us.

I have always been impressed with how comfortable and useable our ollie has been while way off road. Off grid with a well set up Ollie is about as good as it gets when in the wilds - you can have your cake and eat a slice - too. And to top it off - many weeks of road scum, pine sap, the general yuk you get from the road - It all comes off at the next wash - Ollie looks good as new. Our 3 year old often was though of as a new unit by the "other" rv folks. We always invited every one - seems they often grew to love Ollie- even as they walked back to their metal tube. Safe travels all RB

Since no one with a 2021 model has posted, I went back to the classified listing for the one that sold a month or so ago. I can see why you would not have noticed at pickup, as the dinette was probably set up as a dinette. Difficult to see in these photos, with cushions and shelf, but pretty sure the belly trim is positioned, and gapped,ike yours, @LongStride. I wonder if RVIA requires the sticker to be visible with shade closed? If so, wondering if a sticker could be applied to shade frame instead of wall? There's still a sticker on the window. Even with that, there appears to be very little room between shade frame and attic in these photos.

Ive been using a ceramic spray.. Nice and easy!

@DavePhelps, I do think the newer models have a taller rear window. And, looks like it's a slider. When my 2008 windows stared fogging a bit, I asked Jason about replacement vs getting them pulled, evacuated, and resealed locally, and he told me the new windows were larger and different from my 2008 windows . With that, and the tray, tabletop, etc. I don't know how the bellyband could run continuously. No real space. Looks like you have the old style awning egress window, like us, in our 2008.

Here's a pic of my 2015 Elite1. Has Oliver made the rear window larger in later models? Not sure why your trim would be like that. Well, I can think of some reasons but would rather let more informed people speak up first! As for the brackets, mine are a little crooked too. Not so great craftsmanship there but the table still attaches fine. Dave

Here's a pic of my 2015 Elite1. Has Oliver made the rear window larger in later models? Not sure why your trim would be like that. Well, I can think of some reasons but would rather let more informed people speak up first! As for the brackets, mine are a little crooked too. Not so great craftsmanship there but the table still attaches fine. Dave

The elite, and the Elite II, are different heights. I don't "think" the II has the shelf, like yours and mine. They have a nightstand, if twins. Can't swear to it (scubarx would know), but I think the height was added to the lower hulls. Not sure. We just have brackets in the older Ollies. No thumbscrew. Yes, i can see yours is cockeyed. Do you use the big dinette? We don't. We leave the bed set up all the time. And, the shelf (ours is birchwood) is in all the time. I never notice the brackets. Pretty much out of sight, under the shelf. But, if you don't use the big table, like us, I'd probably think about removing the thumbscrews and putting them in a baggie in a drawer. I'd more than likely notice them, with my knee. We find that leaving the bed in place full time is less work, and provides more storage for three bins under the bed. The small dinette gives us a place to sit for dinner in inclement weather. Otherwise, we normally eat outside.

I like the idea of a fan . . . . . we have one of these

Very nice article. Thanks for sharing the link. Yes, it's all a nice, glossy, airy white. It's not brown paneling. I can change up the color scheme any time, with textiles. And, so very easy to keep clean. I wax the interior, every year or two, with the same uv resistant paste wax we use outside. (Not the floor tiles, obviously) Cleanup is a snap. 14 seasons, and still loving our choice.

Good article.. sums it up nicely! I've had more interior likes than dislikes..but the ones who dislike it, are few.. AND incidently, are not invited to camp with me anyway!.. LOL.. Thanks for sharing.

Enjoy I-70 Its a real trip!😆

I made this because the Owners Manual towing and camping lists are simply lame. This one is set up like an aircraft preflight checklist. Feel free to edit and change as needed, some items may not apply or you may just want to do it differently. Mine is laminated and posted inside the closet door: Click the attachment at the bottom to download the Word file. John Davies Spokane WA OLIVER-TRAILER-CHECKLIST-–.docx