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My experience with this. When I went to order a 2024 model in January, my info was given to the dealer in my network. After speaking with dealer, I decided to order and pickup 'Direct' through Oliver. I really didn't want a 3rd party (dealer) to communicate with. I wanted the whole Oliver experience, from communicating with the Oliver Team, driving to TN, factory tour, and staying @ Camp Oliver for any post sales issues. I did this with our Escape in Canada and liked the process. Thanks Oliver for not pushing me to order from a dealer.

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We always travel with at least 10 gallons of water in our fresh tank, for emergency bathroom stops, etc. In the past, when we got home, I'd open the fresh water drain while the trailer was in the yard to empty the tank. Now that the trailer's in the garage, with no floor drain, I wanted a way to drain the tank without it dumping on the garage floor. I bought a low profile bucket and some garden hose bulkhead fittings on Amazon, drilled a hole in the bucket, and installed the fitting. Now I can slide the bucket under the fresh water drain, attach a hose, and let the water run out the garage door. Parts: 3 Gallon Super Bucket with Ergonomic Handle https://a.co/d/fOahpl0 SNUTUYA PVC Garden Hose Bulkhead Fitting With Plug, 1/2" Female NPT, 3/4" Male GHT (garden Hose Thread), For Rain Barrels, Aquariums, Sinks，2 Pack https://a.co/d/3lRxTCu

There is a small hole next to the USB port for RESET. Insert a pin and hod for a few seconds, the Furrion wi reset. Yes, prior Bluetooth connections wi be gone, but it is easy to reconnect.

Update for those of you with the SmartShunt. On our road trip yesterday, 85 miles from home to Burro Creek Campground, I connected while driving the whole way on the main page showing V and A. When clicking on details for the shunt, no-go the connection timed out. Doing the same with the dongle, it connected quickly every time, full details page after taking another 1-2 seconds to read data. And right now, I only have mine taped to the batteries. I'd say worth the extra $40 + tax.

What everybody said above, also I believe Oliver is the only fibreglass trailer with an inner and outer hull, ie 2 bottom and 2 top, and no carpet like “liner” on the inside . The insulation is achieved by the gap between the inner/outer top hulls and thinsulate type of insulation. Some people don’t like the sterile inside look of the Oliver, I love it! Nothing beats seeing an Oliver in person, but here are some good YouTube videos about the Oliver.

Bobby- Once you have really looked at the Oliver versus any of the other brands you mentioned - you WILL know the difference. I too looked at most of what you have looked at and the quality difference in the Oliver versus any of them is immediately apparent. Bill

For those campers that may not know about BLM LTVAs (Long-Term Visitor Area), they were established in 1983 on public lands managed by the BLM throughout the Sonoran Desert of southern AZ and CA. The LTVA program allows visitors to camp for as long as 7 months between 15SEP to 15APR. Special permits are purchased at BLM kiosks at the LTVAs. A 14-day permit is $40, 28-day permits are $80, while a 7-month permit is $180. Payment must be cash only - exact amount. Unfortunately, Golden Eagle, Golden Age, America the Beautiful, and military passes do not apply to LTVA permit fees. Campers who wish to stay on the desert outside of an LTVA may camp in one location on underdeveloped public lands for up to 14 days in any 28-day period at no charge. After 14 days, short-term campers must move to a new site outside of a 25-mile radius of their original campsite. Short-term camping in the Quartzsite area is limited, but there are 5 designated LTVAs here. The LTVAs have various levels of dry camping - some have vault toilets, some have showers, some have potable water. There are limited waste water dump sites. All have dumpsters for bagged garbage. Since only minimum facilities are available at most of the LTVAs, campers must have self-contained rigs. This means rigs that have permanently affixed wastewater holding tanks of 10-gallon minimum capacity. So, how is the Casa Blanca behaving on the LTVA? Well, "sort of" as expected, it's been performing famously here on our 4th day on at La Posa West, about a half-mile south of "The Q". My only issue was totally "self-induced". Arrived at La Posa Saturday mid-afternoon with 100% SOC from a combination of solar and DC/DC charging during a 2.5 hour enroute drive from PHX. After a good sleep on night-1, checked the SOC at around 0530 Sunday AM and found it at an unusually low level at 36%. Racking my mind trying to figure out what the heck was consuming all the power from the BBs overnight, it occurred to me to check the Dometic fridge status. Sure enough, it was in the "DC" mode... Can't believe it escaped my checklist item to switch to "GAS" mode on arrival day. Lesson learned, for sure - the DC mode is extremely inefficient in this model of Dometic fridge. Don't get me wrong, its a good mode to use when under tow as the 27-28A from the TV smart alternator can handle the load from the fridge and still charge the BBs. So, it took Sunday and Monday to get the SOC back up to 100%. No biggie - the Honda GENSET still never saw the light of day and stayed in the back of the TV. With 340W roof-mounted solar modules and the Renogy 200W portable module the BBs were receiving a max of 310W during those two recharge days. The BBs were got to 100% SOC by mid-afternoon yesterday. Winter being winter, obviously brings low sun angles and short days. Campers should consider this when boondocking during this time of year. Just because you may have 540W of "solar modules capacity" does not mean that's what you'll get. Our roof-mounted modules are flat, as we have yet to install legs to adjust them for a more optimum angle to the sun - so they're kicking out only about 190W at mid-day this time of year at this latitude. Interestingly, the Renogy portable module needed to be propped-up to a steeper position in the early morning hours to achieve optimum angle to the sun. By doing so we got an extra 1.3A: If it wasn't for the "wall-to-wall" sunshine conditions here at The Q during the past couple days, the Honda would have been called upon to top-off the BBs! Notwithstanding the fridge brain-fart, it was a good feeling to wake up this morning to a 93% SOC. The BBs are expected to be topped off by mid-morning, maybe even before the pot of Black Rifle is "Winchester." This morning's main drill was topping off the fresh water tank. After switching the valves to "Boondock" mode: 6 gallons of fresh water was pumped into Casa Blanca in less than 3 minutes time, taking the fresh tank from 50 to 75%: Now it's heading to Q to refill the container, less than a 5 minute drive from the campsite. But first - a quick egg scramble for breakfast.... More later!

The Quikrstuff Mach 2 is an awesome rack - double rack version for $1100, not bad...

Probably because he posted the same text to several travel trailer forums in his information seeking quest and just wanted to type his narrative once. Mike

First time we saw an Oliver Legacy Elite was before the Legacy Elite 2 was available. We loved the looks of the interior and exterior of the Legacy Elite and wanted to eventually buy one. One of our previous campers had a wood floor that eventually started to rot from a previous water leak. When we were in the market for a Ollie or Airstream, the Airstream was only available with a wood floor (at that time) and Ollie was built with inner and outer fiberglass hulls. We decided to buy an Oliver. Found a used 2015 LE2 for sale during 2016. Since purchasing Ollie we fixed leaks from porch lights and rear Oliver sign. Also had a PEX pipe to leak in the basement. After fixing these leaks, we don't have to worry about having a wood floor that will rot. Camping with Ollie has been a wonderful way to explore and stay at places around the USA we always wanted to visit. Two things learned since buying our LE2, Ollie has gained value above the used purchase price and has wonderful towing manners. Best way I can explain it is Ollie is very pleasant to camp with.

I second what Mike wrote. We're able to see around the trailer with just our stock mirrors on our Ford Expedition. It tracks in the same area as the tow vehicle, so it's easy to tow and we're not concerned with where the trailer wheels are. John

Our 2022 Oliver is our 4th trailer: 1 travel trailer and 2 fifth wheels prior. Our main goal in moving to a molded fiberglass trailer was to reduce potential roof leaks and the damage they can cause. Ease of towing was a secondary reason. When it comes to the molded fiberglass trailers, Oliver has no equal, as you'll find when you see one in person. (Note that Olivers are heavier than their molded fiberglass competitors, requiring a more substantial tow vehicle.) What we've found to be the Oliver's strengths are: construction materials, size/maneuverability/ease of towing, the lithium/solar package (love this), and sound proofing (the double hulls and dual pane windows can really block outside noise at night). Service has also been better than most RV manufacturers. Weaknesses have been various errors made during its construction and the inherent limitations of its size (limited storage, smaller tanks, etc.), but we understood that we were downsizing. To be 100% honest, our Oliver has not been as trouble-free as we had hoped, perhaps because it was a COVID-era unit. I've detailed our problems in this forum so I won't repeat them now. Fortunately, Oliver service has largely lived up to their reputation in addressing our issues quickly and we're starting to enjoy our trailer more now. Also, to be honest, we've heard far worse from many people who bought non-Oliver RVs in the same time period, so I suppose it was still a net-positive for us. There's only one other manufacturer I would consider today, and they're brand-new, so it remains to be seen if their reality can match their promise. How do you plan to transport your sea kayaks while towing the trailer? Rooftop on the truck?

I love that one. In fact, I love a lot of the old classics. New stuff? Not so much.

@Jason Foster I believe I'm starting to get your sense of humor!

I just got off the phone with Oliver. I have confirmed that the first dealer is on board and now has the ability to start selling the Oliver Travel Trailers. They have two locations in Georgia. There are more dealers in the pipeline that will be located in other parts of the country.

DAY-5: Another beautiful Sun Rise at "The Q":

...just another beautiful "above-freezing" sun rise at Quartzsite - Day-5: Cheers!

Why is the OP an image?

I made a similar gadget, but not as nice as yours. Well done!

As topgun2 and Rolind mentioned, the quality of the Oliver is one of the best in the industry. Oliver is far above the others in support of their owner's (both new and used). Contact the Oliver company and they will let you know where the closest Owner's are located to your location who can show you their Oliver. They will also set up the meeting day and time for you. I suggest that you look at both the Elite and the Elite II for comparision.

We were in an Airstream Basecamp 16x prior to the purchase of our Oliver LE2. There were several important factors in our decision. First and foremost is the quality of the trailer. The trailer is very well designed and speced out with excellent components. The floorplan is very well thought out and important infrastructure in the trailer is easily accessible. The interior finishes are beautiful and the trailer is light inside with plenty of windows and lights. Secondly, Oliver support is fantastic. They are very helpful with questions and have been very responsive regarding the few minor issues we have had, (a bad bearing in the bathroom fan and a defect in the surround for the microwave oven. Oliver University is a great source of information that is easily accessed and searched. Lastly, the Oliver has good ground clearance, significantly better than our Airstream, which allows us to get to places we wouldn’t be able to otherwise

Every time she gets out to "push", she finds another pretty rock to add to her collection in the trailer somewhere.

I have similar wear on one of my trailer tires as well. Mine are the original Michelin tires and I have never rotated them with 56,000 miles on them. Like mine it’s interesting that only one is wearing on the inside. Check with a level (if the tire is worn inside all the way around) to see if that one tire is tilted in at the top compared to the others. Could be the axle got tweaked a little on that end sometime when the trailer was jacked up. If it’s just in a few spots could be as simple as balance. Maybe threw a weight off at some point. There isn’t any adjustments on the frame or axle for alignment like would be on a car front end. I think that if you hit a curb or something hard enough to bend an axle mount you’d know it. I agree, check the wheel bearings just to eliminate them as being an issue as well as the other measurements as a sanity check just to make sure nothing is loose or out of place. Let us know what you find out.

@AlbertNTerri a very solid report and glad you have your issue fixed. Thank you for letting us all know. What I find really disturbing is that Truma knowingly admitted to you that they were aware of the collar nut not being properly torqued which resulted in a gas leak and a fire. Wow, very disconcerting. At a minimum one would think that Truma would have initiated a safety recall via serial number and address this serious fire hazzard. This could have really turned out to be a fire that might have completely destroyed your Oliver. I am so glad it did not, and you took all the appropriate steps to prevent further damage. Again, so glad you are both safe and your Oliver did not suffer and damage as far as you can tell. Hopefully Truma will do the right thing and immediately initiate a safety recall to address the torque issues on ALL serial number units with improper torque specs. Patriot🇺🇸

Just stayed with Melissa at "Meriwether's Retreat B&B" two nights this week. We booked another night coming up when we pick up our Oliver. We agree with all the posts, Melissa is a great host. A very comfortable and inviting B&B! Highly recommended! Darryl & Mary

If there's space at Camp Oliver, spend two nights. Run absolutely every system the next day and night. If you have a bit of time, stay a few nights more at one or two of the beautiful Tennessee state parks in the area. A little more shakedown/gain familiarity time is great, and still close to Oliver if you need any advice or assistance.

I agree with the above comments. Something very unusual would need to happen to interfere with your delivery date. I also agree that if you have time you should spend more than one night in the area. April is just around the corner! Mike

approx. 300lbs....my 2500HD has a payload/cargo capacity of 3658lbs

Welcome and congrats from Hull #1045, Jolli Olli

The outlet between the bath and closet is what Carol uses to blow dry her hair. We also have an outlet in the closet at the lower shelf for the handheld vac. Also, one in the attic, one under the curbside bed and the normal kitchen and dinette outlets. I think we all get used to what we have. Mike

It did, although it would be very easy to add one there by pulling power off the one under the dinette.

Here you go. Not as dark inside but the opportunity was there.

The new door appears to be curved, at edges.. Our door is a rectangle, no curves. One check of "level, with our now 16 year old door, is if the bath door closes and opens easily. Out of level, not great. So far so good, but I do really like the looks of the new door!

So long as the holes are covered by the frame from the cabin side, I see no issue. Seems like it is a normal door replacement. Now if the frame would not cover the old holes, then it becomes somewhat of a problem making them "go away". Certainly worth further discussion if your door is no longer closing enough for appearances sake and keeping shower water out of the main cabin. If not, looks like you may be a "Pioneer" on this one. Ditto TopGun. But i have only some sag. Possibly because of the "ditto". This is on my departure check list.

Aren't we all?😉

Thanks. It is new. I am hoping to keep it that way for as long as possible.

I forgot to mention the mud hole we were in. I put my camp rug down, but the clay soaked all the way through. We don't wear our shoes inside, but the struggle was still quite difficult because our dog wears his "shoes" all of the time.

We are on the mend and feeling much better. Thanks.

I need to update my signature. I went to Tennessee to buy a 2023 model. They gave me a 2024 for the price of the 23. Can't complain. The bathroom door: I was wondering about the touch lights in a previous post, wondering if I would need to replace them. Oliver already did it (They are much brighter than my phone imaged them: And finally, my dog. He is about 20 lbs or so: The bed fits almost perfectly between the walls and it is out of the way. If I remember correctly, the aisle is exactly 24 inches. I can check that again if needed.

“It's like the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad has happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines, it'll shine out the clearer. I know now folks in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding on to something. That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for.” Samwise Gamgee

Superstition has it that rain on a wedding day is good for the marriage. If we carry the equation further, with your situation, you are destined for decades of fun with your Ollie. I'm so glad you could maintain your sense of humor throughout your difficult situations. Happy motoring! Enjoy the heck out of that Ollie, now that you feel better.

Yep.

Pretty cool!

Most certainly there is a list but as one might imagine, the actual signing of contracts and getting product to these "new" Ollie dealers is currently a very recent and fluid affair which seems to be changing (with additions) daily. I'm sure that in due course Oliver will release a complete list and I would think that this will be in the near future. Bill

You can deal with the factory or go to any authorized dealer. Warranty service can still be done at a local business and reimbursed by Oliver. Mike

The dealer in Massachusetts is Tim's RV in Erving, MA

I've said this before in another post... but at the risk of repeating myself again... Oliver is not a "club" or like most of us, a bunch of retired people who have already accumulated enough wealth to sit back and be philosophical about how we would do it. It's a business that has several hundred employees who come in everyday to the Oliver factory trying to earn enough money to get to the place most of us owners enjoy right now. Warranty work (every dime of it) is anything that fails or wasn't done right the first time... it costs the factory money and is a cash drain. Service work could and probably is somewhat profitable and self sustaining part of the Oliver business, but the real cash cow that the owners and every employee counts on (remember they have their own life dreams too) depends on selling new Olivers. With hull numbers around the 1500 mark they have likely picked the low hanging fruit. Now they need to dig deeper into the existing marketplace to fulfill the burden and obligation to pay for tools, equipment, buildings, benefits, healthcare, wages and everything else that those several hundred people working there are depending on so they can make their house payments, buy groceries and maybe even someday own and Oliver and travel around the country seeing and doing everything we all are doing right now. Growing the business by selling new product doesn't mean forgetting the customers that have already purchased Olivers, rather it is doing both in a way that is fulfills everyones goals. It's not easy. Sometimes feels like a balancing act. There will be the occasional mistake... but I'm counting on the Oliver management to provide that "North Star" to keep the companies core moving in the right direction. We were just recently in the extreme north west and several times had conversations with folks who might have been prospective buyers... they just rolled their eyes when I said you could only buy and pick them up at the factory in Tennessee. All of us need to remember that if we want an experienced service team that is equally invested in our Oliver the factory where they are built needs to survive and grow. Otherwise, "who ya gonna call"?