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@Tony and Rhonda I cannot speak for early model Olivers, but our Hull #634 has labels for all jack points on the frame. I clearly remember being told by Oliver Service to use these jack points (pic) and NEVER the axle as a jack point as you risk possibly damaging the axle. So per Olivers advise, I never use the axle as a jack point or place jack stands supporting the axle. Some owners will use the levelers as a jack to change a tire. Again not recommended by Oliver likely and most wisely for liability reasons especially if the leveler should fail. But what could possibly go wrong? 🤷‍♂️ Rather than go down the 🐰rabbit hole, here is an old thread talking about all things jacking up your Oliver. You may find it interesting and entertaining. According to the link below earlier models had a shorter frame and as a result no jack point marker/decals. Stating the obvious here, it’s a good idea to always keep your tow vehicle coupled to the trailer when lifting it. Here is the jack that lives in my TV and for our Oliver. It has strong reviews and it happens to be on sale now. -https://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-620471-6000Lb-Unijack/dp/B00GJJZ5NI/ref=srj

I tried to measure pre and post install based on height of the wheel well trim from the ground. It was less than a half inch in difference on my trailer. I spoke with Lew for awhile when I was there a few weeks ago and he thought he had upgraded close to a hundred trailers now. As others have reported, they were pleasant to deal with and did good work. Lew said my springs had flattened and were "shot." He also said the bushings were badly worn and emphasized that I now have brass bushings along with the heavy duty shackles. Two of my shocks were blown (which I already knew) so they installed 4 new ones that I brought with me. I decided to "spring" (haha) for the new 5200 axles as well so my wallet was way lighter but my piece-of-mind was way higher! Just returned from a trip to Flaming Gorge/Green River, Utah and it performed great over the nearly 1k miles round-trip. We returned through Northern CO where the two-lane highway has quite a bit of freeze/thaw damage and heave so I was sure glad I had it done. I do notice that it is more stout. The "waddle" over angled railroad tracks or curb that @jd1923 mentioned is definitely less.

I am checking into this as I was told when we set the date that campsites could be scheduled. I specifically asked about the 1-year reservation rule and they told me that this was not the case. I will provide an update as some I have confirmation. Dates: Wednesday, October 28 – Sunday, November 1, 2026 Wednesday, October 21 - Sunday, October 25, 2026 The slash is to signify that the original dates were canceled. The park contacted and said that the campground was already full so the dates had to be changed to ensure available camp sites.

I agree with JD. However, I solely rely on the Oliver’s stabilizer jacks when traveling. These jacks can easily lift wheels and it would take a lot more force than just lifting the wheels to torque the frame or damage the jacks. Even though they don't recommend it, the trailer jacks will never slip-off, or fold-over, which has been the cause of countless injuries.

Rode my bike for a long stretch of that road a few years back during the Trans America Bike Race. Beautiful views and fairly light traffic.

We have 6 hours of alone time on 101 this Thursday

Nope, maybe next time. We’re budgeted on time! In Caspar WY (correct spelling) today and soon to Colorado to meet up with Oliver friends this Wednesday! GJ, you will be very happy to know I’ll be at Alcan, Grand Junction CO in just two days. I will observe their operation, expect nothing but the best and will report here…

Mine as well. I'm thinking EZ Lube as I have a concern with ALWAYS and NEVER for just about all things. They are two absolute words we both used to use. 🙂 Keep us posted on your decision. I'll likely follow your lead. Good Camp Fire discussion next month! GJ Another indicated it was 3/4" increase. I have similar storage door frame height limitations.

Manti - La Sal National Forest, Devils Canyon CG, Utah...45 degrees this AM (furnace on) woohoo! Spending the night in a hotel in Moab for 41st wedding anniversary and doing the tourist thing. We tackled some awfully wicked hiking trails today in Canyonlands NP and will need some time to recover tonight. John

Amazon delivered this today. As soon as my bride/copilot saw it she said “that will get it done. We store our Oliver here at home plugged in 24/7. Instructions say allow the unit to sit upright for 2 hrs. Not being in a rush, and taking solid advice from @Ollie-Haus. It arrived really well packaged and in its original box in side another Amazon box. It did not arrive upright in the box. (pic) I will let this “humidity eater beast” sit overnight upright to allow the all fluids to drain back properly. We are looking forward to firing this up and giving it a shake down right here at home and then afield. Let’s just say the humidity level is what we call “swampy high” right now with this heatwave. Thanks Chris for the recommendation! 👍🏻

GJ - Would lowering tire pressure a few lbs work to get you parked in storage? 🤔

The best ice cream I have ever enjoyed! 🤪😋

20 years ago we took the 101 from Cape Disappointment State Park in WA to Petaluma, CA towing a 26' travel trailer without any problems. It was a beautiful drive back then.

Wish we had done a night visit, but our stop was an in transit stop, and then onto the real tourist trap at Crazy Horse 🙃

LOVED the Black Hills! I must learn what makes the stone black. Need to make another trip here to get deeper into the hills. Rapid City though is certainly a tourist-trap but Mt. Rushmore makes it all worth it. What a wonderful celebration of America! Chris and I have wanted to come here all of our lives. We had a great FS site booked just 10 minutes away, but it got into the 90s and needed electric to run the A/C. While eating donuts in our truck at Wall, I made a same-day reservation at Holy Smoke Resort just north of Keystone. It all worked out. We waited 'til after 5PM due to the heat and then hiked the Presidential Trail. We really wanted to see the night ceremonies but during June they start late at 9PM. So we went to dinner at the Powder House Lodge and returned just before nine. It was great, Bison Filet for Chris and Bison Stew for me, yum! Both the daylight and nighttime visits to Mt. Rushmore were something we will always remember. They ended with a salute to our Veterans, who were called on stage and the rest of us were clapping loudly, for a long, long time. Yes, thank you to our Vets! 😂

A week has gone by and we're stayed at so many great places in SD and WY! Badlands NP: liked the ease of entering from the east, exiting west after seeing the sights right at Wall SD. It's so stark, its topography is certainly out-of-place! Honestly, I was a little disappointed, not our favorite place in SW SD. Those who love this place, please do not get upset with me, but I believe if the same range of barren hills was somewhere in the middle of Arizona, it would not make the Top-10 list. It's just were it is located that is freakish! I posted pics in Where's Ollie? and I saw an Ollie threads so will skip those here. We boondocked the wall at Buffalo Gap National Grassland. It was pretty cool. Good that they have changed the rules that you must disperse camp at designated sites. Must have been a zoo prior to that. Still not everybody abides by rules! Somebody towing a 5th-wheel, tandem-towing another trailer with a SxS, came in after 11PM and camped right below us on our designated site. Who are these ________ who arrive at campsites after dark? Then he had the gall to run a friggin' generator all night long! I used to have a temper and too bad I'd get in trouble if firing a warning shot! We left late by noon, since it was going to be in the 90s that day and and it was somewhat cool in the wind on the ridge. Headed to Wall Drug, got in and out quickly. Here are the important pics. Their cake donuts are truly great! They only got us for a half dozen, no t-shirts or other nonsense, and two free water!

The more travel pics of Oliver owners, the better, something we can all agree on. But what just happened to us recently makes this thread special and I’m certain similar connections have been made over the last 9 years! Ken and I have been friends, communicated since their previous trip west when he and MK came to our home last September. We had a quick great day together, night at a local steakhouse! We also met up for a day during the Texas Rally. I knew he had an appointment with Alcan but did not add up their timing and travel route until he posted his Montrose camp picture here yesterday. I just made a reservation at the same park and we’ll soon have a couple days together! Thanks again Mike! I know you and Carol are great friends with them. Please keep this thread going and It’s up to all of you reading to do so!

Saw a post on FB from Josh in sales saying there is a new model compressor fridge coming for 2026. It has a removable freezer section. Does anyone know the make/model yet?

Geoff, good post. I learned the lock picking skill exactly for that reason. It's is not difficult to learn and there are several pick kits and gadgets out there to make it very simple. My go-to set is inside my F150 side pocket, which is accessible even if my truck's key fob is locked inside the trailer. Thanks for bringing this up on the thread.

Now I understand why the new Oliver's cost so much. Its the cost of bandwidth we consume on the web! Street legal 250cc Enduro with a X2 seat and super duty bulldog shocks and Alcan springs! Oh, with a lithium battery and a Truma hand washing station. GJ

Good morning Folks. I have a friend who has a car lift in his Mancave at Treasure Coast Vault and we are going to use that to lift the units on and off. I am giving him the Dometic for his Race Car Trailer for installing the unit. I ordered a 2 wire Honeywell battery powered thermostat for the Gas Heater so that I can give him the control box for the Dometic. I am thinking the drain will prolly be abandoned.

Now that is a bad-boy machine I could really enjoy! I would likely go for the endure street legal 350 version. In a younger day, I had a 400 Penton KTM and Husky CR400. Both were way too pippy on the torque band, and more than I could handle even then as a young beast. The new 350 would have plenty of power for what I'm likely to get into. If I wait too long then likely a 250! 😞 And a big box on the rear. I see both of these efforts in the future! Thanks for sharing. GJ

Glad you got what you wanted. Lew and his team are Great. the springs you bought are just like the top one in the attached pic, minus the bottom most (short) leaf, correct? Please keep us advised as you put more miles on the new suspension

After detailed discussions with @Geronimo John regarding a DC-DC Charger installation, we finally got around to making it happen. There's a ton of posts on this mod/upgrade, so we're not going down the rabbit hole to the end - just saying that it's a worth while mod to consider. Essentially, our concern was the 12AWG DC circuit from the 7-pin connector supplying an inadequate DC current to the OTT while towing, especially during the hours of darkness when there's no solar input to the battery bank. So, we decided to go with the Victron 12/12 30amp Bluetooth unit to be compatible with our other Victron devices (Smart Shunt, MPPT Solar charger, and the Cerbo S-GX multiplexer). We decided to upgrade from the OTT factory PWM solar module controller to the Victron MPPT unit. We also added the 7" Victron Touch to monitor all our AC and DC input/output activity which has been a game changer for us. Here's a series of pix that may satisfy the curiosity of those interested in efficiently charging the battery bank. FYI: We've got 3x BB's and ran 1/0 cables from the TV's smart alternator to an Anderson plug installed at the hitch, then 4 AWG cables from the Anderson through a Blue Sea Cable Clam to the Victron DC-DC charger installed under the aft dinette seat. The cables were snaked from the forward bulkhead under the toilet to the forward dinette seat, under the dinette table, to the aft dinette seat area: Below shows the location for the Victron Cerbo S-GX Touch Screen... This is the location where we mounted the new Victron MPPT Smart Solar Charger, upper street side compartment where the old PWM solar charge controller was mounted: We mounted the Victron remote solar controller monitor to the right of the Touch Screen... Building the Anderson plug for the OTT with 4AWG cables... Below shows the Blue Seas Cable Clam hull penetration adjacent to the 7-pin cable... Victron DC-DC Charger mounted on the street side wheel well/aft dinette seat next to the Progressive surge protector... Note the 50amp breaker between DC-DC Charger and the battery bank. We installed another 50amp breaker between the TV alternator and the Anderson connection: Pulling 4AWG cables from the hull penetration under the head sink thru the front of the toilet and to the aft dinette seat area... Thanks to @ScubaRx - Steve gave a great suggestion for snaking wires through challenging areas using a stiff plastic strap for securing pallet loads... One and done. I'm going for a cold one...

"As I said before, few people ever get them calibrated. Or you could buy one of these: https://www.protorquetools.com/torque-calibration-systems/cdi-calibration-systems/" Mine looks like the one in this thread with the nut on the end of the handle and the spin dial. It's supposed to be accurate to +/- 4%. That's good enough for me. When you buy that torque wrench calibration machine for $107k let us all know so we can calibrate our wrenches. If it's not too much problem you could bring it to a rally. TIA John

On the early Elite II's, such as yours, the steel sub-frame was considerably shorter as compared to later models. Bill