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BaseCamp550 - just S of Ridgway CO, 8 miles N of Ouray, our view from the back of campsite #17 looking southeast. The tallest peak on the right is Mt Sneffels, one magnificent Colorado 14er, simply amazing! 😂 Certainly our best campsite in 5 weeks travel. An older RV park from the 70s. Though I have a leaf-blower, if I had my weed-whacker I'd clean up this site a bit. The view makes up for it and we have a triple-wide spot between a cabin, their front facing away, and the laundry which makes it private, not having RVs left and right. It's just so nice!

Got back from dinner and the Host had changed the entrance sign to “FULL.” Got here at 12:30 and after we quickly setup camp, a neighbor stopped by and said, “You got the best site, #12. A trailer pulled out just before noon.” We’re sitting at 9,550 FT and not a bad view for our last two nights before heading back to AZ!

Everything is bigger in Texas.

Camping at Sunshine CG, dinner at Floradora’s Telluride! They’re ready to celebrate America this week. Wish I had come here when still a skier!

Who said Iowa was flat? I always knew Iowa was rolling hills of farms and cornfields. I had no idea of how steep some roads could be! This is from a few weeks ago on our current trip. We rounded Omaha on I-680, crossed the Missouri north of Council Bluffs, the same town Bill had mentioned. Somehow Apple Maps showed me what look like an interesting country route to our destination at Arrowhead Park... I could NOT BELIEVE the roads, steep limestone dirt roads, sometimes a 10% grade which on dirt you better be careful. And we live in Arizona where steep is normal! Hard to see how steep in a picture, but you'll get the idea. Iowa was beautiful in the 2 campsites we stayed and the country roads in-between! (So was every state we traveled, every state in the union!)

We like to stay at Ridgway State Park which is in the same area. Great location to explore Ouray, Telluride and even Silverton (nice drive down 550). We’ll be back in Colorado in August! Mike

Carl, this Rocks. thanks for posting. I just ran my 2/0 cable like you did, and my helper/wife was on a conference call all morning long. Took me 2 1/2 hours by myself just to run the cable, 6 inches at a time, out the door to push 6 inch’s, back in the bath/front dinette/back dinette to pull 6 inches. So glad I saw someone post use soapy water and rag to make it easier to push the cable. Made a BIG difference. Not to get the Orian 50 amp wired/mounted/tested.

Love Floradora

We saw one in 4000 miles of towing from Portland, Oregon to Denver, Colorado.

First off, to stick to the purpose of GJ's post, it appears that Dextron dealers carry the Nev-R Lube axles. Alcan does not carry the other. OTT does not install EX-Lube either and perhaps they can be special ordered. Everybody who has upgraded to D52 axles has purchased Nev-R Lube axles, which is what I also did last week. Alcan called me first thing Monday to confirm Dextron will build my special order D52 50.00 axles (they stock the more common D52 50.50 size). I high-jacked this thread the other day, something often tolerated in Ollie-and and wrote the statement, quoting myself above. Mike @Mike and Carol replied with this: Simply put, I'm chicken! Our TV can do it, the 1/2-ton TV can do it. I've watched the YouTubes on this dangerous road, so no thank you! When young, I used to ski the mountains of USA and Europe, like Kirkwood at Lake Tahoe or Cervinia (the Italian side of the Matterhorn). Later in life I've become afraid of heights, don't like 2nd-story ladders, don't enjoy gondola rides anymore and we're going to Telluride today! 😞 Somehow I can still bomb up the steepest dirt road in AZ on my dirt bike (slower on the downhills), but won't ride ATVs traversing a mountain, don't like that leaning sideways feeling and same on some roads. I believe it's an inner ear thing I've acquired through the years. And towing down a steep mountain can bother me at times, like AZ I-17 +/- to Black Canyon city, which I run a dozen time a year because I have to! It's the most direct route from home to The Valley, or I can drive/tow Hwy-89 down Yarnell mountain which I do to go to Wickenburg or Quartzsite. I drive slowly down, keeping an eye on the sideview mirrors allowing the speed-demons to pass whenever possible. Our older Dodge Cummins 2500 is fine TV and I've rebuilt it to like new. With it's 2500 rating and Cummins, it surpasses the Tundras and Eco-boosts many of you regularly use (maybe this post should be in the towing section). I was online shopping for more modern TVs the last few late nights. Those with greater than 440 torque, more than a 4-speed trans and with the exhaust brake! I could not find one used on Auto Trader and Craigs that fit my needs! We MUST have and 8-ft bed and I prefer 2WD for its lower stance and stability. Do not want a quad-cab or worse a crew cab. I've seen what y'all back into your back seats! 🤣Love our half doors which keep the cab short, making up for the longbed and back there is only our Pickleball bag, extra shoes under and behind the driver's seat and Charley's bench seat that he loves. In upgrading our TV, we could not find these features! 95% of trucks are 4WD quad-cab short beds. I would love a 6 or 10-speed Alison trans, or the 10-speed Ford but $7500 will get my an awesome stage-2 rebuild on the old Dodge and there is a premiere rebuilder in Phoenix. I believe the exhaust brake which @Patriot mentions often would make me feel much better on 8-10-12% downhill grades that are everywhere out here and I can add the recommended Pacbrake system for $2K which is possible since we already have a Cummins, btw no DEF required which you all know is a PITA. On the other side, I could sell the '01 Ram for a little more than the paltry $18,200 paid and not re-coop most of the additional $10K invested to-date in its rebuild. Uninstall and reinstall our Pepwave router system. And pay $50K, or $60K for a good used truck that would be better in many ways but not have the features we like. And they just look good together. What was I thinking, we're family!

A free rig wash! 😄

Well, it's finished! The installation of the DC to DC charging system in now complete and operational. I first started the installation in the Oliver Elite I trailer (#924) and finished the installation with the Jeep. I'm generally a DYI guy, but this was a bit of a stretch for me. It's not that it was difficult, I stressed on doing something to the Oliver that would ruin it, especially penetrating the hull for the charging cables. That was a big concern. But with careful planning and a ton of help from this community, I was able to get this done. Special thanks to Coddiwomple (David) for his help, patience, and guidance. I first went out to his place to view his installation in his Elite I. It's amazing how different his wiring was in just two model years. Mine is a 2021, and David's is a 2023. It was a bit confusing for me at first so a second visit was called for. In the second visit, I pulled my trailer to his place and asked more questions and advice. That second visit really helped! Thanks again David! Here is a few pictures I took during the process: I followed David's idea of mounting the components on a board that I later installed in front of the street side wheel well. I used the buss bars to step down in size from 2AWG to 4AWG which was necessary to connect to the Orion XS. I think pulling the 2AWG wire was the toughest part of the installation. A shout out to my son-in-law who was there helping that day. Couldn't have done it without him! Upon examination of the hull, I realized that under the sink (above picture) the hull is only a single layer thick, not a double hull there. That made things a bit easier. There was little existinting space to run additional cables through the hull, so I modified the housing for the propane tanks just a bit. With the propane tanks and tray removed, it was easy access to the trailer font. With my oscillating saw, I cut out an addition piece of the propane housing to the left of the three existing cables. That gave me plenty of room to install two additional cable glands for the DC charging cables. The way the propane tank housing is constructed and attached to the hull, the small piece I removed does not compromise the integrity of the housing. The following pictures show the final hull penetration. With the cables pulled, I was able to finish connecting everything to the DC charger. I finished the umbilical cord that connects to the back of the Jeep. I used the Trailer Vision enclosure to protect the Anderson SB120 plugs. Onto wiring the Jeep. (Much easier) At the battery box, I used a KASS terminal extender to accommodate the fuse and the other cables. I ran the cable along the chassis and installed the Anderson connector in a Trailer Vision enclosure which allowed me to mount it directly to the rear bumper of the Jeep. With everything installed and attached the batteries at both ends (Jeep and Oliver), I plugged it in and tested the amperage. I was getting between 49 and 50 amps at idle. Now the next step is to road test this on a long trip. Can't wait. Very excited to always have full batteries after a long day driving. Thanks again to everyone who had a part in making this a success! Carl

Perhaps now would be a great time for readers/posters to this thread (and other threads) to re-read the Forum Guidelines. I believe that it was Bugeyedriver that last referred everyone to these Guidelines back in 2024 with THIS POST. Bill

I've read and participated on this form for over 4 years. There's always been a strong bias expressed in favor of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I think some of the cautionary feedback is coming from this bias. Initially I towed with a 2016 GMC Canyon Diesel using the Anderson hitch and it performed just fine for me. I don't disagree that a heavier truck is a better (more stable) TV. My current TV is a Mercedes 3500 van, but the main reason for the van is cargo, not tow, capacity. Wasn't the question of the BW Continuum hitch setup the point of this thread? The Sierra EV curb weight is over 8500 lbs. That's about 1000 lbs more than a Sierra 3500. I don't think an Anderson, BW Continuum or any other anti-sway or weight distributing hitch would be needed with a Sierra EV in combination with an Oliver LE2. I can't find that GMC has a hitch recommendation. As far as driving dynamics are concerned, the Sierra EV will probably be a great TV without a special hitch. As to the range anxiety that some have raised, maybe that's an issue for some. I think you've stated your expectations well and an EV will work for your use case. Until someone tries, we won't know how well an EV truck performs in real life. Keep us posted. Steve

Can someone talk to me about the maintenance provided by the mothership at Hohenwald? What all do they do? Has anyone documented a detailed list of their service? I could not find anything on their website. Thanks

All you have to do is call Oliver and they will send a list of the services they provide for "Annual Service". I'm sure you can also do a search or on Facebook and get it.

Iowa sure is flat and is second to Texas in 2024 Tornado activity. Those flats can dust up really bad weather quickly. Texas was the state with the highest number of reported tornadoes in the United States in 2024, with 169 disasters reported. Iowa followed second, with 131 tornadoes reported.Apr 1, 2025 😟 ‘Stay weather aware!

I've never had them do the routine maintenance. Have had mixed luck with their repair services. One time, under warranty, they did very shabby work, failing to complete tasks they claimed they had completed. This included leaving a loose nut rattling around inside a brake drum. More recently (this spring), they handled a minor fiberglass repair quickly and efficiently. So, a gamble. Unless you live very close to the Oliver plant I would recommend doing your own routine maintenance if you can, or find a local RV shop you trust. Most Oliver components are fairly standard RV gear.

We were looking earlier this spring at Iceco as we wanted more freezer space and we never made the leap after our first trip we realized the Norcold actually worked out pretty good on freezer space but we needed more room for produce as we had the nor old fridge jam packed Dometic does have a Fourth of July sale on certain models I did recently see some consumer complaints posted on FB about Iceco for a defective design that were not covered by Iceco. somehow the freezer and fridge operations are switched by the unit the fridge section freezes and and the freezer thaws out

I prefer to call it “Cimate Change” and it’s whether you believe Mankind can affect it to any significance. Like the Ice Age and you must know the great dinosaurs were cold-blooded animals, so climate must have been significantly warmer than today for them to thrive, and later they didn’t. Dan believed I was against EVs, not true. Give me a Tesla S, WOW, but he was biased to GM only and the last time I wanted a GM was in the 60s or a few Cadillacs I’ve owned through the years. I wouldn’t buy an EV truck as a TV and I wouldn’t buy a Cyber Truck because they’re ugly and they’re not a pickup! Where’s the bed? EV trucks cannot Boondock, it’s as simple as that, without scheduling hours of time every other day for charging. He said “there’s electricity everywhere” and I replied, “that’s not Boondocking!” Last 5 days of our trip will be on one tank of diesel, two full FWTs, 600 Ah house batteries, solar and DC-DC charging, inverter running 110v outlets and appliances often. Simply no EV charge stations in our path! He stated 500 mile range. Several members replied lucky to get 200 towing. Most of us get 400-600 miles towing and under my truck and many models you can install an AUX tank to double those numbers, not possible in EV-land! Design experience is not Boondocking experience, period. Though I was told I do not understand and will learn one day. Dan stated his decision affirmative to buy the Sierra EV, absolutely this year. And MAYBE an Oliver next year, later. Last time Dan logged in was end of May.

If you are still hanging around Telluride go to Butcher & Baker for breakfast. Great Mexican restaurant, but forget the name, Brown Dog for pizza.

I have been super happy with the RAS on my 2017 Tundra DC 6.5’ bed. I installed on the middle setting and it’s been great when it’s unloaded and running around town with just the truck, and absolutely no squat with the Oliver attached.

Agreed these newer trucks are on a completely different level in performance as well as comfort, features and amenities. Approaching rocket science.

Dan: Recognize that the vast majority of us on this forum are Retired Ole Farts. We certainly made our share of mistakes and learned from them. I used to call my Grandfather a "Ole School" guy. Over time I came to realize that he was actually a lot smarter than I gave credit for. But he had the gift of letting me make my own mistakes, so that I could learn from them. As a leader in the EV Team and a member of our forum, I thank you for your thoughts and reality checks presented. Granted I doubt that many of the current OTT owners will follow your foot EV foot steps. For now.... But I would guarantee that in the not too distant future, the technology will be at the point of people wondering why we were ICEing it for so long. Your advantage is you have the technical and experience to be out in the lead in this area. Good for you. And good luck as those ROF's tend to be right..... all the way up to the moment that reality strikes. Sort of like there is no such thing as global warming. No offence to the MAGA members of the group! Really! Seriously! Geronimo John

It is absolutely amazing what a few mods to a truck design can do. Like: Taking 700 pounds off the truck (Conversion of body from steel to AL.) Having a near 400 HP Twin Turbo engine with a 10 speed GJ

It comes down to the surface area of the contact patch, pad on disc or shoe on drum. Disc brakes likely have some efficiencies but certainly not 10” discs over 12” drums. The main advantage of disc brakes is the cooling which is much greater since air cannot flow inside drums where the heat is created, and brake fade is caused by the materials over-heating. A simple way of looking at is, I (we) replaced axles rated at 7K to 10K. The brakes must also be capable of stopping the rated weight. Simple conclusion is it provides a 43% increase in braking power (10 / 7 =1.43).

Nope, you Army guys are tougher than me. Don’t like turbulence either!

And pack whatever you can in the Ollie if you're running up against your payload limit. 100 lbs packed in there only adds 10-15 lbs to your payload.

I've read that the PB Platinum models have a payload capacity around 1250 lbs. The Lariat will be a bit more, but not sure how much. Do your calculations and be safe! Cargo weight adds up in a hurry with just the most basic things (passengers, canopy, hitch/mudflaps, tongue weight...) The 6.5" bed would be what I would pick for many reasons including the longer wheelbase, which will improve your ride. Living in the great state of Wyoming, and the inter-Mountain West, if I was towing with only a 30 gallon gas tank, I'd for sure carry an extra 5 gallons in the back. My tank is 36 gallons and I have already needed it! Good luck and hope the new truck works well for you. Dave

So, jumping out of airplanes isn’t on the agenda either? It’s been a few years since my last jumps but I still think I could do it, even as I’m in my 70’s! I think Highway 550 is a scenic and exhilarating drive from Ouray down through Silverton. Traffic generally moves slow and the drive doesn’t have to be white knuckle. The drive around by Telluride is much tamer but also very scenic. You can’t go wrong either way. Stay in your comfort zone!! Mike

I have towed our 2022 Ell with a 2014 and now 2019 3.5L eco boost. Both trucks XLT with tow package. The 2014 had a 6.5' bed and the 2019 has a 5.5' bed. Both tow the Oliver easily. We live in Ohio and have towed it to Alabama (rally), Miss, Tenn, KY and WV camping and have had zero issues. Payload was a learning curve at first but after loading and unloading stuff we never "used" vs stuff we take "in case" it became easier. I think the only issue with the Powerboost and some other options would be less payload capacity. We are looking to move to a 3/4 or 1 ton truck this year to accommodate more extended trips. Getting away from the Anderson Hitch is a bonus for me, lol. Scott

That's a big accomplishment. I always said that the people who say it's flat are vehicle drivers.

Wow, I can't imagine a bike journey like that! Congrats to you for such a great accomplishment! I only rode about 70-80 miles per day in "flat" Iowa.

Camped with another Oliver at Angel Fire RV Resort, Angle Fire, NM; Midway COE, Waco, TX; Galveston Island State Park, Galveston, TX; Outer Banks, NC, KOA, all in the last 12 months and the year isn't over😊. Passed several on the highway.

I went into etrailer.com, but didn’t find a 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern offered for 3500 axles.

On Campendium you had to read the fine print to know that “Elk Ridge Campground” was actually Ridgway SP. We noticed the park sign as we drove in. Yes Mike, it is a beautiful location! I chose this place, without knowing better, because it was not on a lake! This place is rustic with only a half dozen decent RV sites. Looked like the SP had many more sites, more the usual setup. Most of the lake sites we’ve stayed had many mosquitoes where we’ve been chased in early at night! We sat out last night without those nasty creatures. Perhaps I’ve gotten used to the dry climate of AZ, preferring mountain views over lakefront locations. I know most people feel the other way, like my sister who has to live on the coast. She could not survive out where we live! 🤣

I visited Alcan Spring today in Grand Junction CO. I was impressed by their operation and service, what they were able to accomplish on a minutes notice. As a medium-sized manufacturer and automotive service company, I quickly noted their company quality, efficiency and fully capable staff (see picture of a portion of their operation). I purchased leaf springs for our Oliver, including HD shackles, new wet bolts and U-bolts (pic2). Our Oliver requires the 50.00 length axles. They measured our Oliver. For comparison they manually measured their 50.50 springs which they stock for Oliver customers. I asked them how can I go about getting the correct D52 axles for our hull. They replied that the could special order axles for me and charge me the same price as the axles they stock and buy in bulk for Oliver owners. And that's what I did. Getting my special-order axles will take 6-8 weeks and they will ship to me when ready. I was out the door in an hour. Four staff members were working together to help me. Simply put, they were awesome! I had a smile on my face, the whole way to Montrose to see our friend Ken. He was happy to see the parts, since he has a full installation scheduled soon. RE the purpose of this thread. Alcan only sells the Dexter Nev-R Lube axles. They report good reliability with these sealed bearings, not hearing of premature failures. So they do not have experience with the EZ Lube product. When asked about replacement bearings for the Nev-R Lub, they replied they would ask their Dexter rep and get me a quote. @CRM if you have a link for the correct Timken brand replacement Nev-R Lube bearings, please advise. I appreciate that @John Dorrer has posted his experience so far, and of course if/when any of us have failures, we should read it on our OTT Forum. I'll be working my installation later this summer and will start a new post documenting the job. Like I mentioned before, it will be fun getting into this! 😂

Yesterday I finished welding on the two primary swing out carrier hinges and fitment of the locking pins to secure them. Carrier hinge assemblies mocked up on the previously modified receiver hitch. Locking pin fitment for securement, underside view. Locking pin, rear view.

I DO enjoy this forum. I may not contribute as much as some of you but I find myself looking every day and learning something new every time I look. This thread is no exception. My takeaway is that both sides make valid points. I am also convinced that DanielBoondock knows what he wants and knows the tradeoffs. As he correctly points out there are tradeoffs both ways. RVing involves lots of experimentation. I am anxious to learn what he learns. There are lots of different ways to enjoy the experience.

I didn't state those facts well; I should have said 14 mpg is the maximum we normally get. Yeh, we hover between 11 to 14 mpg. I'm glad to learn those averages aren't disgraceful!

I’m late in joining this discussion, but wanted to answer your original question, @Boonter Jeff. We purchased a one-year old 2023 Sequoia early last year. Almost immediately I completely removed the 3rd row of seats, meaning we now have more room in the back, and less weight (~ about 100 lbs., if I remember correctly). We find the front seats quite a bit more comfortable than our Highlander had, and we greatly appreciate the torque/power. The gas mileage when towing, however, normally hovers around 14 mpg. We find we have more than enough storage space in the Sequoia when we are towing. Barb in Colorado

An interesting and entertaining opinionated thread. 😄

I can probably vouch that everyone, including myself, trying to talk you out of an EV, don't particularly have any hate for them and we all mean well. If you are dead set on it, let us all move on. :)

Yes, Jason and @CRM are correct! Since you like GMC, get the DURAMAX 6.6L TURBO-DIESEL V8 WITH ALLISON 10-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION! Wish I had an Allison 10-speed with exhaust brake attached to my 24-year-old Cummins! But we do have the Cummins 5.9 Diesel with a tuner for 5 performance fuel settings, economy, towing, etc. and the factory Camper package (rear helper springs like the 3500). The only charge station I've seen in all of Prescott AZ is a couple at the Ford Dealership and I think the Hilton also has a couple! Neither location allows trailers on their lots. And they don't have EV chargers 100 miles from where we normally camp. Honey, can you find the hook-up? The batteries are getting low! 🤣

A Honda 2200 EUi has a continuous rating of 2,000 kW which means it is capable of putting at most 2 kilowatt hours (kWh) of energy into an EV battery if it runs for an hour. An EV pickup like the F150 lightening will travel from 2-2.5 miles on a kWh of battery power in normal driving. That means if you wanted to add driving range using an Honda 2200 EUi, you would need to run the generator for a full hour for every 2 miles of additional range you wanted. Level one chargers at home (120 volts) are limited to about the same charging rate as a 2200 EUi; a rate of about 2 kW (15 amps x 120 volts equals 1.8 kW charging rate). Level 2 home (240 volt) chargers can charge a vehicle up to a 16 kW rate (i.e., the F150 Lightening) depending on the specific vehicle. The charging rate using AC power from home is limited by the charging circuitry in the vehicle that converts AC power from the home plug to DC power into the batteries. These internal vehicle electronics limit the charging current (whether 120 volts or 240 volts) so charging the vehicle will not trip the circuit breaker in the home panel. The charging stations being built along freeways, et. are DC fast chargers. They supply DC power directly into the vehicle batteries and typically are capable of charging the vehicle at a rate of 150-250 kW rate which is why they can charge a vehicle like an F 150 lightening from zero to 80% charge in way under an hour. It would take a 2200 EUi over 50 hours of continuous charging to do the same. The good news is if you had an EV like the F150 lightening that is capable of bi-directional power flow, you wouldn't need much if any battery storage in the Oliver itself. When you set up camp, you plug the trailer into the F150 (with 130 kWh of battery), you have over 100 kWh hours of battery reserve for over a month of camping assuming you arrive at camp with close to a full charge in the vehicle. My son is a rural large animal veterinarian and has an F150 Lightening (11,000 lbs towing capacity) as his work vehicle. It gives him several hundred miles of range which is more than enough for a day of ranch calls and he can recharge it from empty to full overnight at home with his 16 kW level 2 charger. Last summer his batteries in his travel trailer were nearly shot but he didn't replace them. He just took his family camping and plugged in to the F150 when they got to their campsite. My son did keep his gas powered F150 for now for the rare times he needs to travel out of state or go on hunting trips more than several hundred miles from home.

You have chosen wisely to go with the Weigh Safe Hitch sans dial. I went through three of these (with the dial) and they all failed. I finally bought a Curt 45902 for our Silverado HD trucks. I moved the Weigh Safe Hitch to Tali's Canyon Diesel. All of our other trailers are pulled with that truck anyway and I don't have to swap from the Oliver's 2-5/16" ball to the 2" ball for the smaller trailers. In my opinion, the use of a Weigh Safe Hitch with the dial in towing an Oliver is a WOT after the first use. Unless you are constantly loading the Oliver in different configurations, it's going to register approximately the same weight every time.

Hello friends. I’m still new to this forum and still exploring all the great intel here. All you folks are way more experienced than I am. We still are not Oliver owners yet but are using this forum as a basis of information. My question here is after reading HD RIDERs very extensive compilation of tow vehicles, mine was not included. Which made me wonder about its ability to tow a LE II competently. Just last year we purchased a 2023 Nissan Titan Platinum Reserve 4x4 not so much as a tow vehicle for an Oliver but for my boat. Our priorities have now changed as we’ve sold our boat and are looking forward to exploring having an Oliver as our home away from home. We plan, as of now anyway, to use the Andersen Hitch and are only planning short getaways for maybe a week around the southeast ( not climbing the Rockies or pounding our way to Alaska, just yet ). Your opinions will be greatly appreciated and noted.

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Good, but long, video. Thanks for sharing. It appears that the Atmos 4.4 design is very well done. Has many of the same concepts used by the Houghton. Two design details for further update by Atmos owners: In the video they did not make it clear that when the heat pump is in cooling mode, that the fan does not have to run when the compressor is off. This is a deal killer if the Supply Air Fan and the Compressor DON"T cycle OFF together. Unless you are one of the 10%ers as discussed already. The other detail that potential purchasers should be aware of is the unit's height. Here is a comparison: Dometic Penguin II 9 1/2" Houghton 9" Amos 11.14" For most not a problem. For some that 2.5" could be if you have a 10' entrance height. Just measure and be sure especially if your entrance to the storage factify has an UP ramp as you back in. Looking forward to learning about the cycling of fan and compressor topic. GJ

Nice truck, but I can't see it handling very well in the water... 🦆🚣‍♂️