Patriot Posted August 14 Posted August 14 (edited) A few Oliver showroom floor photos of the Lippert awning style windows installed on 26 YM Olivers. It’s my understanding from Oliver that these windows will allow for retro fit on existing Olivers. Pricing on the retro fit of all (5) windows has not been announced yet. 3” max opening. Black interior frame and pull down roller shade. Also note the new white belly band. Edited August 15 by Patriot 4 4 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor aka - “Beast of Burden” Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb never lube axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina
Zodd Posted August 14 Posted August 14 max of 3 inches? Ouch, that does not seem like a lot of airflow. 1 Todd & Kat 2023 LE ll twin, hull # 1305, Truma AC & WH, Platinum solar, Natures Head 2024 Ford F250 Lariat 7.3L gasser / 3.75, FX4
Steph and Dud B Posted August 14 Posted August 14 Not the Euro-style I was expecting. We had these on a previous trailer. Not much airflow. I wouldn't replace all my windows with these but might do just the one over the dinette for airflow on rainy days. Are they double pane? 1 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
routlaw Posted August 14 Posted August 14 Looking at the side profile, they do not look to be double pane. 1 Legacy Elite II #70
jdmmtx Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) This change seems like a step backwards. I prefer the look and functionality of the old-style windows and blinds. We pass things through our windows often and enjoy the airflow and connection with the outdoors when inside and they are fully open. That valance, unfortunately, looks like something from 1995. Thumbs up, though, on the white belly band! Edited August 15 by jdmmtx 5 Joe and Mindy ▪️ 2019 Legacy Elite II ▪️ Hull 457
johnwen Posted August 15 Posted August 15 8 hours ago, routlaw said: Looking at the side profile, they do not look to be double pane. More like plexiglass :( 1 2022 Oliver II #996 "Bessie", 2019 Silverado LTZ 5.3, Veterans https://wenandjohnsadventure.com/
Patriot Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, johnwen said: More like plexiglass 😞 John, & @routlaw Rob, My understanding is that its a (Lippert) Bonded 3000 series glass window. David Edited August 15 by Patriot 2 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor aka - “Beast of Burden” Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb never lube axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina
Steph and Dud B Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Patriot said: My understanding is that its a (Lippert) Bonded 3000 series glass window. According to the Lippert sales brochure those windows are "Available with single-glazed and dual-glazed panels." I hope Oliver is choosing double pane. Also, as I recall, there was a hack involving drilling out a rivet that would allow those windows to open further. Edited August 15 by Steph and Dud B Additional info 1 1 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
routlaw Posted August 15 Posted August 15 https://res.cloudinary.com/lci-cloudinary/image/upload/v1734451736/Design Team/Sell Sheets/Lippert_-_Sell_Sheet_-_3000_Series_Windows_OEM_-_2023002334-WEB.pdf Link for somewhat better description of these windows. I have mixed feelings about them myself. Not sure double pane is that big of a deal after years of use. Disappointed they only open 3 inches. The valance thing looks dorky. Always thought the chrome stuff looked tacky so an improvement with the white trim piece. Love the no maintenance of the windows though. The existing windows on the Oliver have always been the bane of ownership to me. Poorly designed and out of date. 2 Legacy Elite II #70
Steph and Dud B Posted August 15 Posted August 15 For us, the advantage of double pane isn't temperature control, it's noise reduction. They really do help when the guy with the huge Bluetooth speaker sets up next to you. But the bigger problem for me is that those Lippert windows really don't move much air. We never really felt a breeze in our old trailer. That said, they're better in the rain. For functionality, I'd like to have just one swing out window for use on rainy days. I know some of the other fiberglass trailers do that with the rear window. 1 3 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
Patriot Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 (edited) For those members who don’t do FB, here is recent pic of a few 26 YM interior updates from the Oliver FB page. I am seeing the fiber-granite sinks, a vent over the closet door where the pervious speaker use to be mounted. A new Bluetooth speaker, induction cook top, a texture wet bath wall, under cabinet switch lights, a new bath door, and the white belly band. 🇺🇸 Edited August 16 by Patriot 3 3 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor aka - “Beast of Burden” Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb never lube axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina
rich.dev Posted August 15 Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, Patriot said: a texture dry bath wall Really, a dry bath? 1 2023 Elite II, Hull# 1386, Lithium Platinum Package (640AH, 400W Roof Solar, 3000W Xantrex Inverter), added 400W Renogy Solar suitcase with Victron MPPT 100/30 CC, Truma water heater & AC TV: 2024 Silverado 2500HD 6.6L 10-Speed Allison
Patriot Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rich.dev said: Really, a dry bath? 4 minutes ago, rich.dev said: Really, a dry bath? Haha! Wishful thinking. 😄 typo corrected! Edited August 15 by Patriot 2 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor aka - “Beast of Burden” Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb never lube axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina
Steve Morris Posted August 15 Posted August 15 In a different view, the flexible reading lights are different, with the switch on the base. 1 ----- Steve - Northern Ohio, USA Wandering around on occasion, always lost. 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser - 2023 Oliver Elite II Twin Hull #1360 “Curiosity” Facebook - Instagram Camped in Curiosity = Green —— Visited with Curiosity = Gray
jd1923 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 It looks like an Oliver to me! Not much different. Is that wallpaper on the bath/closet door wall? 1 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
Steph and Dud B Posted August 15 Posted August 15 I would prefer an induction stovetop with the lithium power packages... 3 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
Ronbrink Posted August 16 Posted August 16 19 hours ago, jd1923 said: Is that wallpaper on the bath/closet door wall? Good eye! Not as subtle in difference as the other changes mentioned. 1 Ron and Brooxie | Clear Lake (Houston), Texas 2020 OLEll, Twin, 579: No installed solar, dual 30# propane tanks w/GasStop safety devices, Renogy 40A DC-DC charger, 460Ah LFP battery bank/Victron SmartShunt, auxiliary Cerbo-S GX/Victron 30A Blue Smart IP22 Charger combo, interior mounted Hughes Autoformer, twin independent sliding Lagun mount tables, extended dinette table and pantry landing, tongue-mounted hoist, Beech Lane refrigerator Ventilation/Evaporate Coil fans, metal valve stems with TST cap sensors and signal repeater, Waste Master sewer hose management system, Dreiha Atmos 4.4 A/C upgrade/Ceilo Breez Max thermostat, FlagpoleBuddy Starlink Mini suction mount kit. 2019 GMC Savana 2500 Cargo Work Van: Explorer Limited SE, Low-Top 7 Passenger van conversion, 6.0L V8 Vortec, 6-Speed Automatic, RWD; Air-Lift LoadLifter air suspension/WirelessAir compressor; Bilstein B6 4600 Series shocks; metal valve stems for TST tire pressure monitoring system; Buyers Products cargo containment boxes/DC Cargo securement system; rear bumper DC-DC Anderson power cable outlet; 100Ah 12V portable power station/Dometic CFX 75L Dual Zone cooler; front 2” receiver hitch/QuikrStuff Mach2 double bike rack; Mechman 320A high output alternator; Starlink Mini/Veritas Vans magnetic mount.
John Dorrer Posted August 16 Posted August 16 (edited) There are flip up windows that open to the horizontal position. 3" will allow little air flow. Bummer. Edited August 17 by John Dorrer Updated Comment 1 John & Susan Dorrer, 2013 F250, 6.2 gasser, 4x4, 2022 Legacy Elite 2, twin beds, Hull #1045, Jolli Olli -
John Dorrer Posted August 17 Posted August 17 20 hours ago, John Dorrer said: There are flip up windows that open to the horizontal position. 3" will allow little air flow. Bummer. Updated to say 3" will allow little air flow. John & Susan Dorrer, 2013 F250, 6.2 gasser, 4x4, 2022 Legacy Elite 2, twin beds, Hull #1045, Jolli Olli -
tallmandan Posted August 17 Posted August 17 On 8/15/2025 at 12:56 PM, jd1923 said: Is that wallpaper on the bath/closet door wall? Not a fan of wallpaper/texture look on the wall. I've always hated the cheap, dingy wallpaper look on the interior of so many other RVs. Always loved the clean, nautical feel of the bright white fiberglass in the Oliver. Its a double hull fiberglass trailer so embrace that! Leave it to individual owners if they want to cover the fiberglass with something. I'm not sure I like the new windows either, which sure seem to have less airflow. On the plus-side, it does provide rain protection. My trailer is usually my basecamp and I often leave the windows open when I leave for the day's adventure to keep it cooler inside. I worry that if a rainstorm comes up before I return then it can get wet inside the trailer (Colorado is notorious for quick-forming afternooon thundershowers in the summer). I wonder how much more privacy the new windows add with the dark tint? Assume it is significant and the new roller shade is a full shade only? Does the dark tint result in less light transmission and a darker feel inside? I like light-and-bright! 2 2020 Elite II #627, 2021 Silverado 1500 3.0L Duramax, Colorado
jd1923 Posted August 17 Posted August 17 3 hours ago, tallmandan said: Not a fan of wallpaper/texture look on the wall. I've always hated the cheap, dingy wallpaper look on the interior of so many other RVs. Always loved the clean, nautical feel of the bright white fiberglass in the Oliver. Its a double hull fiberglass trailer so embrace that! Leave it to individual owners if they want to cover the fiberglass with something. I'm not sure I like the new windows either, which sure seem to have less airflow. Yep, me too which is great. No sense liking what's not goin' to happen! We like our walls and windows and all our necessary corrections and wonderful mods! Our hull is turning 10-years-old this fall. Should have it another 10, or 20, and keep it in the family... 2 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
WeeBeastie Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Was just at the "mothership" and had a chance to look at a 26. Yes the new windows do give an entirely new look, they also minimize air flow and do diminish the natural light. These same windows and shades were in a prior RV a few years ago and we discovered that you really loose airflow without using the ceiling fan, then you have the added noise. But the biggest issue for me is the shades need to be put in the up position while driving otherwise they get beaten up a bit, and come morning they allow a lot of light in the sides come morning... be prepared if you are sun up wake up kind of person... On a positive note, the accent wall, doesn't look bad and is smooth. The only concern is that you now have a fixed color palette that you will always have to take into consideration... It is a nice touch but doesn't allow a complete color customization as you will have to keep to the grey tones... 3
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